Peripheral Port FC.
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Hey people,
I've had this up in the N/A forum for ait but i think the thread needs to here at home with the other Gen 2s. I bought this FC to replace a very knackerd EGI where the chassis wasn't worth saving. Too far gone. Purchased as a verutally bog standard TII, had a manky 3" down pipe and pretty old Greddy/trust exhaust she seemed like a good base for a peripheral ported 13B motor i had been building for my old FC, but after stripping that FC EGI to bits that chassis was way to far gone. So the bits for the EGI i had went on the TII. Attachment 693781 Attachment 693782 After a quick rivet here and there and some wheel nut swapping: Attachment 693783 Attachment 693784 Obivously with bigger mods in mind i set about fabbing a nicer exhaust from the down pipe, with a single sinlencer in the middle of the car, and then a striaght system from there back. Had a lovely rasp of a noise.... great for tunels :D Attachment 693785 Attachment 693786 Attachment 693787 |
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As you can see in the pic above set of Cusco's went on. Had a massive result with these. Found them on Yahoo Japan fully refurbished with Swift springs £500 delivered.... awsome
Attachment 693778 Attachment 693779 Other chassis mods where: Racing Beat front and rear Roll Bars Racing Beat roll bar end links Racing Beat rear toe eliminator Racing Beat chamber bar Modified steering rod ends to match the ride hight drop to stop bump steer. Attachment 693780 |
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So chassis a little more tweeked it was time to remove the engine and put the Peripheral Ported one in.
Stock set up Attachment 693774 Attachment 693775 The motor Attachment 693776 motor in Attachment 693777 For the new peripheral port i needed new managment. I found a second hand Microtech LT8 ideal for the motor. Once it was all wired in i found the car had no crank signal... after a few conversations with the seller and guys down at RX Motors, who eventually found the problem, turned out the unit was very faulty with 2 intermitent problems that either it should go bk to Aus to be sorted out, or i could have tims old one off their drag car..... so i will be buying the one off the drag car soon. |
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Microtech in (before fault was found!)
Attachment 693768 Pip at WGT hand a nice little dash unit hanging around. Handy unit this. Also acts like a Power FC Commander. You can change alot of peramiters on the unit. Wicked. Attachment 693769 Attachment 693770 Attachment 693770 And bodies on the motor. You can aslo see a very nicely bodged manifold in there too :D That was doen just to get the motor started. Attachment 693772 |
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With the ECU ou of action it gave me a chance to revise a few other areas of the car. First off was the exhaust system. The one i had in place would be no good for the N/A set up. Also i'm sure as some of you know N/A + rotary = bleeding ear horriable head tremor syndrome. The diffeculty is getting a balance between velocity and noise. So i went for a set up with 3 silencers. one on each priamary and on at the rear. Then V-banded the whole thing for good measure.
Attachment 693756 Attachment 693757 Attachment 693758 Attachment 693759 Mid section: Attachment 693760 Attachment 693761 onto the headers. Sort or long.... I decided as i shortened the intake runners down to about 10" from the butterflies in the throttle bodies to run 94" primaries. For people who don't know the primary length on the exhaust is where the first join on the pipes from the engine is.... In this case on have 2 exhaust ports so the primary join is 94" away from the exhaust ports. N/A cosworth engine with Throttle bodies in a 4-1 set up this length would be around 22". Or 4-2-1 Primary at (4-2) 18" secondaries (2-1) at 8-10" depending on final engine tune............ Sorry babbeling on ! Attachment 693762 Attachment 693763 test fit Attachment 693764 Attachment 693765 Attachment 693766 Attachment 693767 On the stand with New OS Giken Twin. A touch OTT for the HP / TRQ but such a lovely clutch to drive with. |
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Unfortunatly the body work has a high point followed by a low followed by a high.
I wanted to go 2 tone white blue. And the result was indeed sick.... Well i thougth so. Wide at the rear stock for the rest, Wheels first Attachment 693745 Attachment 693746 Attachment 693747 Attachment 693748 She ended up like this Attachment 693749 Now some twat hit the car in the yard and smashed the rear bumper and rear quater. Too make matters worse SEM who supplied the paint for the car Discontuned the paint colours that where used So unfortunalty due to the layering of the paint even after a few attempts nothing was close enough. With not enough time to do anything fancy this time around... kept it simple. Attachment 693750 Attachment 693751 Attachment 693752 Attachment 693753 |
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The ody then got some more attention. Custom wings, bumper and skirts
Skirt skin: Looks a little odd with the wide arch and the 8.5" wheel in there!!! Wish my 10s would turn up. Attachment 693742 Attachment 693743 Attachment 693744 |
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Got a few more bits done a few more items checked off the list of things left to do. Starter motor back on, Sytec fuel filter now in, pump in, Pressure reg on, New throttle linkage on. Changed the trumpets on the inlet out for longer ones. The pain in the ass is the don't do the size / lengh in the items i need so a little cut and shut is needed as i had to do last time!
... slowly slowly catchy monkey. The Cut Attachment 693727 Tacked up in place. Attachment 693728 The pressure reg, Just waitng on fuel lines and fittings which i should have tomorrow Attachment 693729 The linkage Attachment 693730 Painted trumpets and all fitted ready for duty. Attachment 693731 |
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New rear section for the car. The dual 2.5" system was too big and ment for shody responce. Just finished fabbing up the new single exit muffler. which now goes from dual 2" long primary manifold into 2.5" collector then its coned up to 3" for the rear section. Job done. Looks way more aggressive too so just waht i wanted really.
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All of this so far it ply. Easiest medium to mock this kind of thing up in before doing it in ally.
Wing mounts placed either side of the number plate: Attachment 693717 All the peices fitted together with the wing balanced on top: Attachment 693718 Attachment 693719 Just a few other s of the body and skirts as they have progessed. Front arches are now 100% ready for paint. Skirts still a way off yet. Not 100% on the diffuser yet. May make my own to flow with the rest of the car better. Attachment 693720 Attachment 693721 Attachment 693722 |
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Had a little play with the intake. Waiting on a new flange to turn up to finish it off but very obviuos the difference! I wanted to make the inlet shorter to match the exhaust set up.
Prior length - 410mm About 16" new length - 250mm about 9" Shortening variuos bits led to some matching up issues that would have caused sets in the throttle bodies and pipes. so this happened: Chopped air horns Attachment 693709 With the tapper and the cut is let a far larger exit on the air horn so there would have been a step on the way in. Not good for the air/fuel flow so marked it all up and honed it out so the from the tip of the air horn down to the butterfly's in the throttle body is a nice grandual tapper. Nice and smooth. Attachment 693710 The step Attachment 693711 You can see the difference in the black rings Attachment 693712 Honed Attachment 693713 The bodies in new location with the inlet tubes cut too. The top pic is the old and the bottom is the new BEFORE : Attachment 693714 AFTER : Attachment 693715 Attachment 693716 |
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ALL CHANGE!
There is a massive issue having a car sitting in the workshop for a long time. You just KEEP changing your mind. Too much time looking at it saying..... What if i do this!!! Any way, stock fuel tank dropped, boot floor and some more of the underside cut out and removed. Should counter act the weight in the rear Qtrs. Another potentional exhaust change for areo reasons to stop flow being spoiled on the way out. Customs diffuser to come. Hopefully the front and body work is on the way so i should see that soon. Front bumper, stacked carnards and splitter. I'll then make an undertray for that! The Rota's are back on as they didn't sell and the MS-01's did. Shame but they went to a good home so thats cool. Only have a couple of pics and the exhaust ones are an old unit i did years ago but wont be desimilar to the newly fabricated one. Reasons for the change, aero and noise cutting (not so concerned about the last one) I'm going to keep the single exit rear section so when we eventually get her to a dyno i can compare the two. Attachment 693704 Attachment 693705 Attachment 693706 Attachment 693707 Mock up but basically how i'll have it Attachment 693708 |
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With a few bits awaiting delivery i decided at this point to crack on with the engine bay as the motor could then go back in.
So first off i striped the original loom right back to bare minimum. Just the light, pop up motors and wiper looms survived. The ECU loom has to be re built as the ECU is now in the rear of the car with the fuses/relays and battery. once chopped wrapped and sorted i could get on with a very quick once over of the engine bay in my lovely green. Attachment 693697 Attachment 693698 Attachment 693699 |
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body colour
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Righty then, did a fraction more on the exhaust this morning, got it all tacked up. Will havr to weld it up during the week at some point!
This will be known as the road system. Twin box's dual 2 1/4" pipes. There will be another race style system too which will be single 3" with one box. The split Attachment 693680 Attachment 693681 Attachment 693682 Attachment 693683 Attachment 693684 |
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Couple of quick ones with the pipes welded up
Attachment 693677 And one of it upside down Attachment 693678 These turned up today swell so I suppose I should build the fuel cell really! Attachment 693679 |
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Well i managed to find a set of calipers through a top dude that should just about do the trick. You can see in the picture there are 2 of calpiers both porsche items. The small of the pair is commonly found on things like the evo's and scoob's. The larger ones are mine and are from the porsche turbo range. Bigger pistons and larger pads. I'll marry these up to a set of 2 peice brembo rotors in the future.
Attachment 693674 Righty now. The bremos. I'm helping a chap with S62 V8 E30 at the moment so took advantage of the brake discs he's using (M3 CSL) to come to conculsions about what size i'm going to be with the Brembos. These are 345mm x 27mm. The pad sweep is perfect but i think i can get away with a 345mm x 30mm set up. Which brembo conviently do a 2 peice set up. So thats just super. Here is the brembos with the CSL dics. Attachment 693675 Attachment 693676 |
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Was going to start with the fuel cell but decided to get the swirl pot done first. Its a 1.5 (ish) liter pot. Was just going to buy one but.....
Attachment 693666 Attachment 693668 Attachment 693669 Attachment 693670 I'd like to say it was perfectly round and glorious but its not. However it holds fuel, doesn't leak and does the job. I'm going to be painting all the fuel componants black. Will look better than the plan ally against the candy green. Not sure about satin or gloss black yet but we'll see. |
Awesome. Awesome awesome awesome. :) I love your fab job on e exhaust. you sir have skills. But please use an air filter though! I'd hate to see it suck in something!
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Sweet, nice project!
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mint build man,looking good!!
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Originally Posted by rotatrix
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mint build man,looking good!!
And this build is "mean as" the fab work is insane though a little A.D.D on all the changes. But hey keeps it interesting. Love to hear this beast. |
haha yes abit of a give away!!McCarthy what gearbox/diff are you plannig to run behind the pp?i know with the factory turbo ratios it can be abit tall on a ported non turbo motor!!
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Subscribed!
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Awesome build so far.
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Cheers guys for the comments. It's nice that all bits are finally coming together. The plates are off being lapped at the moment. I know I've just painted the engine bay but I'd like to get the arches tubbed before the engine bits come back as I'll be throwing 10j wheels in there. Now with the pedal box I'm looking the brake servo too and I'm going to throw new brake lines in there too. Get all that done and the motor can be built and dropped back in for the final time.
I'm not sure whether to use solid or braided lines in the engine yet will have to decide that next! |
i absolutely LOVE all of the fab work, great build so far!
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please put it on the dyno and give us some info
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Yeah once she's all together she'll be on the dyno. I have a feeling I'm going to have to jump up too twin 60mm throttle bodies to get the most out of it. I need to recalculate the header length to suit the short intake. At the moment they are 94" too long for the very short inlet.
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Got a couple of bits done over the weekend. I however didn't appear to take any pics of the fuel cell..... so i'll do that tomorrow!
This is basicaly the basic pump holder and sender modified to work with the custom tank i've just built. The actual fitting for the oval plate i'm having a mate of mine machine up in ally. I'll then insert short studs into that and weld that into the top of the fuel cell and bolt this peice in. Simple really. Stock fittings cut off wholes welded up. Then re drilled for -6 fittings, fuel pump holder extended and new pump put in. This will then sit in the small serge tank thats been built into the bottom of the cell... Pics will show more. Stock set up and pump Attachment 690266 New version - retains the stock sender and low fuel level Attachment 690267 I'll get the fuel cell pics up tomorrow! |
What a awesome project my brother!.. What kind throttle bodies are you running?. There beautiful!..lol
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Thanks dude,
The throttle bodies are 55mm made by jenvey dynamics. They do bodies for just about every application you can think of.My ones I have modified to get exactly what I want out of the application. It's a bummer the don't do shorter trumpets with the injectior holes in hence I chopped mine down and honed out the bores inside. |
The variety and execution of the various exhausts has been extremely entertaining, however...
In the undercarriage shots it appears that the whole rear subframe has never been touched, what's up with that? Just being a nag. Anyways, while you have the fuel cell bulkhead in hand, you should seriously consider upgrading the electrical connector. That stock piece will get quite crispy as your upgraded pump sucks current. |
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Originally Posted by clokker
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The variety and execution of the various exhausts has been extremely entertaining, however...
In the undercarriage shots it appears that the whole rear subframe has never been touched, what's up with that? The fuel cell. Its about 65/66 litres with the gradient and surge tank at the bottom. Foam filled inside. Still got to fit the filler neck but i'll decide where to put that once I have it in the car. Attachment 690224 Attachment 690225 You can see the gradient here sloping towards the rear of the tank to keep the fuel forced down around the pump. Attachment 690226 |
are you still running the michrotech? i hate that ecu. id rather a haltech e6k over that piece of shit. same parts as the 200$ diy megasquirt in a fancy case. at only a 600%+ markup
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Yes still on the microtech. Does exactly what I need it to do and I paid £200 for it second hand from a UK turner so it works for my needs. If I didn't have a budget for the car then I'd go motec all day long. Awesome support and a world of expandable features.
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Touch of progress, Got the exhaust on. Well mid pipe and rear section. Can't do the manifold until the motor is back in.
Attachment 686124 Attachment 686125 Attachment 686126 Quick one of the tank and swirl pot in place Attachment 686127 Think as I said in an earlier post i'm making the front wings out stock items and modifying with metal instead of the fibre glass mods I did before.... Got very heavy so this way will be far better. Stock wing with the rim Attachment 686128 After a snip, cut and chop Attachment 686129 With the arch mods behind the wheel there where a couple of issues on 3/4 lock... DOH! Attachment 686130 SO I had to take a section out to get clearance Attachment 686131 All tacked up ready for welding and finishing Attachment 686132 Attachment 686133 |
Now THAT's cool.
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I love the fenders... so perfect.
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cheers guys, will look better once I manage to get the 10j on the front too match the rears :)
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Got the driver side all mocked up too.
HSD s coilovers and oops new 18x10 fronts have arrived. Just going to pic up a pair of 265/35/8 tyres for now off ebay as the rears are half warn anyway. May then buy a set of V70A's for her. Not sure they will make for the best everyday tyre but they will certainly have awesome grip on those dry days. |
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Managed to get one side of the rear quarter mods done today to incorporate the skirts into the 'remodelled' design. Pics show more
This is how it was after the filler was knocked out from around the joins from arch to body. Lots of exposed wheel from the front. Attachment 685530 After the front section has been moded. The car body was cut underneath then re welded up to support the fibre arch. Attachment 685531 With the skirt in place as it would sit on a stock bodied car. Attachment 685532 Trimmed, chopped, pulled and stretched with the skirt into place with the arch and first skim Attachment 685533 Attachment 685534 |
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I have actually managed to make a little bit of head way with her now. Few days between jobs as a dude cancelled on me gave me a day and a bit to crack on. The front wings now finished and painted. Sider side skirt finished but need painting with the car. The lower section, where the skirt covers the bottom of the front wing needs making. I'm going to have this follow the line of the wing in towards the wheel well. Then using an item similar to the FEED side skirts for the FD3 to finish the whole deal off nicely. Will get some pics of that up once they are finished off.
The whole of the interior is now striped. Anyone who has ever stripped a Jap car and specifically the RX7's will know how heavy and thick the stock carpet and padding is. Much be a good 20 odd kg so that's gone and will be replaced with a much thinner token carpet just to keep it neat. The Doors have also had a hack and will be covered in carbon sheet to loose the stock door cards and extra material as I intend to keep the electric windows. But in due corse the side windows and rear screen will be replaced with Lexen Items. 265's have been ordered for the fronts. Just a set of part warms for now so I can replace the whole set once all 4 corners are deaded next time round. The pedals are in now also but having a look I didn't take any pics so i'll do that! Attachment 683061 Attachment 683062 painted Attachment 683063 Attachment 683064 The doors Attachment 683065 after Attachment 683066 |
That exhaust system is awesome mate, great build.
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Where did you get the floor mount pedal set from?
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