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JamesG 09-15-12 11:07 AM

JDM FC3S Circut car from Australia
 
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Hi guys.

Been a member for a while thought I would post up a quick thread on my FC I am building. This site has been a great source of information along the way.

Started by accident, friend came to buy a wagon off me but I swapped it for this instead. Not much to look at but it would be a great base to get me on the track again after a few years. I had just been separated, and swore no more cars but you will see how that turned out..............anyway enjoy the build!

James.

Here it is the day it arrived. Not much to see yet but I had a vision in my mind of where it would go.

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It's a JDM 86 FC3s Turbo import. had 109000km on the clock and stock apart from wheels when it arrived.

JamesG 09-15-12 11:12 AM

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Then I started looking around for rims. The build was always going to end up a track/tarmac rally car so performance is important. I came across a few sets of old skool Work Rezax Roar wheels. Forged, light and period perfect so I bought them. dropped in a used set of Teins for now too and I was feeling better already.

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I new pretty soon I was going to need a garage to do much more so the car took a back seat to getting on my feet and looking to buy a place to set up my life again. But at now I was getting excited about life again.

JamesG 09-15-12 11:21 AM

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So I bought a place, and it had a small shed. That had to go so I smashed it down and got on with building a workshop I could build the car in properly.

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Some beers, get the boys around and chuck on a BBQ
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Let slab dry and erect an industrial spray booth/workshop on the side of your 70's 3 bedroom shoebox! I spend more time in the garage so might as well make it comfy!
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Some bi folding doors and it's ready to go. The coolroom panel means it's warm in winter and cool in summer also.
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JamesG 09-15-12 11:26 AM

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I did say quick thread, but I better grab a beer and settle in there is a bit to cover from the last few months. Here goes.

I sell trucks, and my friends company builds the bodies for them. He has a spray booth so with a few beers in hand (a great currency that) we rolled the car in and gave it a new coat of paint. I love white cars and straight white tinter is as white as they come. Makes repairs easy too if I scrape it on the track. I decided my theme would be straight black and straight white for the car. Super clean and basic.

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JamesG 09-15-12 11:37 AM

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So back in the garage it was looking pretty neat. I decided on a black and white theme so I did the wheels straight black tinter. The car was now over 25 years old, so in Victoria Australia that meant I would register it on the club permit scheme. Cheap registration, relaxed rules for mods and some red licence plates.

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By now I was gathering quite alot of parts for the next stage of thye build. I was also spending a few hours a night going over all the information on forums like this one to learn as much as I could about the car before starting the main build.

My goal is too build a period correct circut car. So no huge turbo's, no drift spec kits just an FC that looks like it might have been running around a track in the late 80's to early 90's. The class I will race in allows limited mods (2F Marque Sports Car) and suits my budget perfectly.

JamesG 09-15-12 11:46 AM

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Parts.

In the past I had always had this fetish for odd model cars with near nothing in the way of afetrmarket parts. The FC however is very different. I was a kid in a candy store and I became really interested in finding period correct style parts and good used performance bits and pieces to build it up.

Second set of Work Rezax Roar wheels now black also. I lve the slight concave face, the simple 5 spoke style and they are SO LIGHT. Weight is cheap horsepower.
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Seats, got a great deal from a guy o bought a car and they were too small for him.
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Power steering pump to replace the standard FC monster pump. I am going to run a single multi rib pulley setup too.
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Size compared to my Nokia Phone - way smaller and nicer than stock FC and adjustable for rate too.
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I had some mufflers made, 3" and specifically for rotary application.
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Rules in my class allow small rear aero so I got 2 of these RE Amemiya wings. I like the style of these and they have a pretty aggressive rear edge.

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JamesG 09-15-12 11:51 AM

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Now it was time to bite the bullet and really get into converting my car to what I had in my mind. So over 3 days I gutted the inside of the car and removed the sound deadner in reparation for the rollcage.

Dry ice - mans best friend when it comes to removing sound deadner.
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Tap with a mallet
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Remove
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Admire minty fresh floor pan
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Yes that is a totally stripped interior.

JamesG 09-15-12 11:59 AM

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Rollcage time.

So, I rang a friend who builds racecars. Manual and rulebook in hand we sat down and discussed the plan of attack. Pretty quickly I decided that if I was going to build this car from stock, for myself to keep I wanted to do it right first time. I am a panel beater by trade and was lucky enough to do alot of my time on race cars. Rollcages are pretty specialised though so I left that to the expert.

Rules require a 6 point cage with basic side intrusion. What we decided on was an FIA spec cage. Reason being is in Tarmac Rallies you don't have alot of runoff area - rather big trees, creeks beds and other obstacles just meters from the road. In a perfect world I hope to never use it but if I do I have a fighting chance.

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JamesG 09-15-12 12:06 PM

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By now I had a car that was not really driveable. This meant a trailer. A customer of mine had sold his racecar and had an old trailer sitting at home. It had surface rust and was pretty basic. I re painted and rewired it and added a tyre rack on the front. Then towed the car home to prepare for the next stage.

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By now I had joined a local forum for Rotaries and a guy not 5km from my place had the same car and was a wealth of knowlegde. While in the grandstand one Sunday afternoon watching the V8 super cars Simon casually mentioned removing the motor and trans is a 2 hour job - challenge accepted.

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Ready to tidy up before paint.
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JamesG 09-15-12 12:09 PM

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With the engine bay totally bare - it was back to the booth to paint the inside and engine bay.

Prime it
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Eat McDonalds breakfast while it dries..........................

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JamesG 09-15-12 12:11 PM

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Back in the workshop looking about as bare as it can. Also you might notice the sill stands - nothing worse than trying to work under a car with no room. These handy things get the car high and stable. I hate putting a jack stand under a car then finding where it is happens to be right in the way.

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JamesG 09-15-12 12:25 PM

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The old Teins in the car were just old. The spring rates were something like 10kg front and 8kg rear. No good on a tarmac rally or a track for that matter just too stiff. They had been treated quite badly too.

Rallies need suspension with a little give and even on the track you need weight transfer to get the car handling right. So I bought a new set of Teins with 5kg front and 4kg rear. Sounds soft but I have done alot of research into this and consulted with my race engineer and these are where we need to be.

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By now I had totally removed the wiring lom - a major source of electrical gremlins in an FC. I am rewiring the whole car and running a Microtec so just the basics are needed anyway.

Wiring destined for the bin
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Stripped dash ready to be trial fitted before assembly.
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I like how all the controls for wipers and lights are on the speedo head surround - this makes the dash easier to keep minimal along with the steering column and I can run a blank centre console ready to accept more important items than aircon and heating...........

Trial fitting - went in alot easier than I anticipated.
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Pedals in, and dash panels all installed.
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Trial fitting/cutting the door trims to clear the side intrusions.
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Steering column and seat in - starting to look like my sort of office.
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JamesG 09-15-12 12:32 PM

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Brake lines, I labeled the things and took lots of pictures and re assembly was easy. Brake booster in, and all the crossmembers are soda blasted and repainted. I have been repainting everything in rust proof epoxy satin black to make the car tidy.

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Doors on, fenders on and all under the car painted epoxy satin black. Fuel tank re installed with intank Bosch 044 and rear end re installed with 4.11 Mazdaspeed 1.5 way torsen LSD. All wounts and control arm bushed are now delrin, and the front diff mount is welded solid along with DTSS cancellors.

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On the fuel system I am going to give it a go without a surge tank. If surge does occur - then I will swap to external pump with 044. Runing 4 1000cc ID injectors on aftermarket rail but more on the motor later.

Thats it for now, I am making my undertray and lip tomorrow and I will post pics of the turbo, intercooler and other bits and pieces. Thanks for reading my build.

James.

clokker 09-15-12 01:34 PM

Beautiful car and I love the seemingly casual way things get done..."I needed workspace and bang!, garage is built, "I needed a rollcage" and voila!, rollcage appears.
I know it's not that easy and fast but it's fun to imagine it might be.

A comment about your build sequence...
I thought it was typical- and certainly it seems logical- to do all the build/fab work first, then strip down for paint.
Were there time constraints or other reasons for approaching this car backwards?

JamesG 09-15-12 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 11223018)
Beautiful car and I love the seemingly casual way things get done..."I needed workspace and bang!, garage is built, "I needed a rollcage" and voila!, rollcage appears.
I know it's not that easy and fast but it's fun to imagine it might be.

A comment about your build sequence...
I thought it was typical- and certainly it seems logical- to do all the build/fab work first, then strip down for paint.
Were there time constraints or other reasons for approaching this car backwards?

I painted the outside to tidy it up first. When it came time to paint the cage and inside 6 months later I should mention I had all the panels off and I painted the outside of the car again also rather than mask it all off. I just buzzed it down and painted it all at once easy as but yes if I was doing all at once I would do that. I just wanted it looking decent for summer before I bought my house and builf the garage.

Oh and the garage - built it in 5 hours after the slab was down. Those coolroom/spraybooths are so easy to build! I pre fabbed the door frame and the rest was built on the day onsite. Not quite bang and done but pretty close!

JamesG 09-17-12 12:13 AM

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I have been meaning to wire up my workshop lights and finally got up Sunday and decided to get it done. I can't beleive I put it off for so long. I was using a portable worklight, now it's like daylight and so much easier at 2am! I lost track of time and went to work today with 3 hours sleep...........

I had to drop the car onto its wheels to install the lights - first time in 2 months since it was a bare shell. I installed Tein Super Street coilovers to replace the old Tein HA setup that was very very average. The HA were VERY firm, at least 8kg front and 6kg rear but I have heard could be as high as 10kg front 8kg rear. Certainly felt firm I have the dampers backed off all the way to try to smooth it out. Anyway the new suspension was as low as it can go so I expected it to be on the deck - wrong. Turns out the Australian Spec Tein SS are tuned for Aussie conditions and that means lower rate springs (5kg front and 4 kg rear), damping to suit and the suspension just can't go as low.

I wanted the lower spring rates to suit the tracks and tarmac rally events and expected the valving to suit but the ride height was a surprise. I was not happy at first as I really liked it so the fenders sat just on top of the tyre - now its about 30mm or just under an inch higher. The more I spoke to my race mechanic the more I realised its better that way for what I intend to use it for. I realise now I must be in my mid 30's because I am actually listening to a suspension guy instead of slamming it to the weeds:lol:

I started fitting up the front bar and working on an undertray idea.
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I am basing it on this car below from the US. I saw it somewhere online where the owner was advertising for sale the undertray.
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Here is the tray in more detail.
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7speed 09-17-12 01:00 AM

Wow, I should really start trying that beer tactic on my friends. Build's looking great, you're lucky you can source Amemiya stuff that easily over there.

JamesG 09-17-12 11:13 PM

Just make sure the beer is consumed AFTER the job is done!!!!

Amemiya stuff is not common - I think I have just been lucky. The mirrors pop up time to time. I got one Amemiya wing off ebay for $100.00 and an identical spare from some old guy at work. He had it in his garage from a bulk lot of parts he got at a hot rod swap meet of all places! I JUS?T missed a rare front lower half bar from amemiya too but I am going with stock S4 Bar, lip and the undertray now. Easier to replicate if/when I smash it.

Havoc 09-01-13 07:06 AM

any updates on this mate ?

evo_koa 09-02-13 02:48 PM

Very cool so far.

BurntOrangeT2 09-02-13 03:47 PM

This is looking fantastic sir, keep it up. Really really like the cage, wow that thing looks amazing.

Good job on getting a great workspace sorted ASAP too.

88turboll 09-03-13 05:49 AM

Looks awsome so far!!!

fexterz11 09-14-13 12:10 PM

dude... awesome build!

JamesG 10-02-13 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Havoc (Post 11562002)
any updates on this mate ?

Hi Havoc, I have done a little. I will upload more pics shortly. A few changes, getting ready for finishing the fuel system, wire it up and finish the brakes and it's nearly done.

Stay tuned..................

fidelity101 10-03-13 08:16 AM

I'm diggin the attention to detail. great work!

JamesG 01-18-14 09:50 PM

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Been long time between updates. So here is the latest.

All the panels are on including alloy hood.
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Got the door trims done too
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Front end upgrade including

Steel front hubs to replace the weak alloy units that grow under extreme heat cycling causing the front wheels bearing to loosen
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Front hub bearing spacers to allow proper bearing pre load
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Front brake upgrade. Involves machining front hub down to accept Brembo 324mm rotors off a 350Z on the front as well as spacing the calliper to fit over the thicker rotor and move it out 1" radially for larger diameter rotor.
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Rear brake upgrade is Supernow FD 315mm rear rotor conversion. Decent size upgrade.

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The plan is to increase the thermal efficiency of the system with larger rotors. I will run Hawk Blue pads to start but the whole idea is to keep the look period correct, cost effective and subtle. It also works with the standard brake master cylinder bore to keep the pedal feel right like factory. Just going to fit a bias valve to fine tune it but should be pretty close and help dial out the tendency to lock the rears first under hard braking.

Finally scored an awesome find on Gumtree - A RE AMEMIYA COMPLETE SERIES 4 DASH!!! guy was wrecking an FC out in QLD so I grabbed it.
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Also scored 2 more sets of the same Work Rezax Roar wheels. Painting them up now bringing the total number of sets to 4 which is plenty for track days.

JamesG 01-18-14 10:17 PM

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Here is the brake system all installed on the front
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All fits under 17" rim. I will run a 5mm spacer but I needed that anyway to clear the front rims to the struts. Uses all OEM rotors and pads. Pads are stock FC. Rotor is stock Brembo 350Z and we utilised longer pad pins from a Toyota Landcruiser. Once it is dialled in, I will switch across to a 2 piece rotor on the front as well as the FD rotor on the rear. A good balance size of rotors at 324mm front and 315mm rear. Looks stock too!

Here is the pretty plain looking fuel system. All Aeroflow with the fuel reg and in line filter. Stock hardline is used with a fitting to connect to the push on fittings.
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If you have an FC you may know the whole issue of swapping a factory auto transmission car to a manual with the transmission cross member being different................problem solved. (I was waiting on a custom bolt hence the drill bit lol!!!).
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The car is now back in the shop having the intercooler, exhaust system and some other minor fabrication work finished up then it's back to my home workshop to wire it up and hopefully fire it up!

Thanks for checking out my build,

James.

clokker 01-18-14 11:46 PM

I thought it was beautiful a year and a half ago and still do.

FAL 01-19-14 12:12 AM

Awesome build! Exactly how I want to do my interior. Jealous of the RE-A cluster!

JamesG 01-19-14 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 11662122)
I thought it was beautiful a year and a half ago and still do.

On the home stretch but yeah been a little longer than I originally thought but I have always wanted to do my own car from a shell to finish doing all the little things the way I always wanted.

7speed 01-19-14 03:43 PM

This is really an inspiration. I'm with clokker on this one, with the exception of the front bumper

MaczPayne 01-19-14 04:14 PM

You won't be disappointed with those Ronin brakes :)

Best. Upgrade. Ever.

clokker 01-19-14 05:36 PM

About your Ronin-ed calipers...
Were they bondoed before paint?
I don't see any part lines in the center where the halves meet the spacer.

JamesG 01-19-14 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 11662579)
About your Ronin-ed calipers...
Were they bondoed before paint?
I don't see any part lines in the center where the halves meet the spacer.

Looks pretty neat don't you think? No bondo, I doubt it would survive the immense temps anyway! The Ronin kit was a cool concept - we just refined it a little. A few things we did were...

#Clearance the calipers on a mill rather than die grind it out making it quick and easy
#When we joined the calipers we linished down the caliper for a smooth OEM look and just painted them gloss black
#We ordered longer caliper pins to suit from a Toyota Landcruiser rather than counter sink/reuse the stock FC pins

Also for some reason we did not require the spacer to go behind the 350Z Rotor. I did however upgrade to a steel front hub from KSP Attain in Japan. This allowed me to machine down the stronger steel hub with heaps more material on it where it counts to suit a stock 350Z Brembo rotor no machining of the centre bore needed. Perhaps this all had something to do with it.

Anyway after good reviews on your site I decided to go for it. Looks stock but should hold up under race conditions. If I am pleased I will go 2 piece front and rear but machining the front hub to suit 350Z stock and the rear to FD RZ spec stock means it's always off the shelf parts for Rotors and hats in the future.

For me this car has been all about an unremarkable looking car that can punch above it's weight on a track. These brakes fit the requirement to a tee!

James.

j_ting_318 01-21-14 07:36 PM

sweet car!

blackedoutFC3S 02-25-14 09:47 PM

The car looks great would love to see some updates! So clean and well thought out.

Are you running quick releases on your front bumper?

JLa 02-25-14 11:38 PM

Very cool build and nice garage. Do you still happen to have the original steering wheel? I'd be interested in picking that up from you if shipping to the states isn't too expensive.

Lemon 06-02-14 12:41 AM

great build. cant wait to see action shots.

unek87 06-06-14 08:55 AM

Your build is truly inspiring brotha . One of the few builds I've seen done very clean , simple , and in my eyes very elegant and yet rough . The white on black , you can't go wrong with for sure . Subscribed for updates and pics

FCJG15 08-28-14 12:05 PM

Wow. That undertray.... WOW. You should measure that and have a few made. probably make some decent profit... profit means parts... parts mean more smiles per gallon!. Do you have a write up of those door panels? I have a couple of extra pairs I would love to replicate with different material. Top notch!

eage8 09-08-14 10:16 PM

I had never seen the front hub bearing spacers before... they look pretty cool. I assume they let you tighten down the hub really tight without crushing the bearing? Do you know anyone who has used them? Do they actually work well?

I assume you got them from MSF?

junito1 09-09-14 05:24 PM

Please please please- get live action footage, thanks in advance.=)

JamesG 01-12-19 11:09 PM


Been away a while but thought I’d post updated pics, a lot of updates I’ll try to post them over the next week.

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JamesG 01-12-19 11:15 PM

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Akaviri 02-17-19 04:55 AM

Excellent build thread. That car looks like it belongs in Gran Turismo. Some seriously well executed mods and rare parts. Absolute legend!

007fc 02-17-19 07:25 AM

Wow looks amazing. And love the understated setup but big benefits.

_Tones_ 02-19-19 05:34 AM

Hey man, have just read the whole thread, absolutley awesome build mate. Loving the pink wheels too, such a nice contrast!

teeson 02-19-19 05:58 PM

best use of those front fender flares, car looks good

JamesG 02-21-19 03:14 AM

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Built a new front bumper for more air flow to the twin engine oil coolers each side of the inter cooler.
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Reset ride height to get it to hook up better in turns.
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New fuel tank and system has much better ground clearance to help ride over ripple strips at the track.


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