warning about stolen parts from fc3s91
03-30-13, 11:52 PM
#1
warning about stolen parts from fc3s91
hello all rx7club. i just wanted to warn you all about a ex-friend of mine of ten years that decided he has the authority to steal my expensive KSP-ENG aftermarket hubs from me. this is a warning not to do business with this individual as they have proven to be untrustworthy and will justify stealing from you!
03-31-13, 12:29 AM
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in light of the last thread, and the train wreck it produced, here's the ground rules for this thread--
1--IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THE TWO PARTIES INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE PERSONALLY OR A MODERATOR, STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD. I need to hear from ROBERT, not all of his buddies.
2--THERE WILL BE NO INSULTING TOLERATED IN THIS THREAD. None of this "youre an idiot" type crap. Those who do will find themselves on temporary hiatus from this forum.
3--IF ANYONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THESE GUIDELINES, THEN REFER TO #1 AND #2 ABOVE.
This is a place to resolve an issue. It will not be a free for all. And yes, I am fully aware that Rob has helped a lot of people on this forum----but that has no bearing on this thread. His reputation is known, what he did or did not do in this particular instance is what counts. I have heard that he is a stand up guy, and this will be a chance for him to demonstrate that, as it will also be for the OP.
Alright, gentlemen, the stage is yours...
1--IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THE TWO PARTIES INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE PERSONALLY OR A MODERATOR, STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD. I need to hear from ROBERT, not all of his buddies.
2--THERE WILL BE NO INSULTING TOLERATED IN THIS THREAD. None of this "youre an idiot" type crap. Those who do will find themselves on temporary hiatus from this forum.
3--IF ANYONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THESE GUIDELINES, THEN REFER TO #1 AND #2 ABOVE.
This is a place to resolve an issue. It will not be a free for all. And yes, I am fully aware that Rob has helped a lot of people on this forum----but that has no bearing on this thread. His reputation is known, what he did or did not do in this particular instance is what counts. I have heard that he is a stand up guy, and this will be a chance for him to demonstrate that, as it will also be for the OP.
Alright, gentlemen, the stage is yours...
03-31-13, 07:47 AM
#3
thank you. is there anything you can do to resolve this issue? im sure youve read enough from my last thread to get a gist of my problem.
all i want is my personal property back. i dont want to fight or call names. rob's whole basis for keeping my parts is judgement and feeling of authority over my life/finances, which is a complete attack of personal character. hes gone around telling people im some rich boy from newport beach (untrue), ive heard that i drive a M1 3 times now (also untrue), etc, etc, whatever will justify his actions in his own head. I've had to bring up family medical problems, foreclosures of property, credit card balances, and every single peice of private and personal information i can think of just to defend myself from rob and his friends.
as soon as i sold my 1 series, which was costing me an arm and leg to upkeep, and have some money in the bank for the first time in years and years, rob gets it in his head that he wants a taste of it and since he has my parts and i have little recourse, he took it apon himself to claim ownership to the hubs and more than likely installed them on his car. when questioned about the hubs, he said theyre not at his house and in his attic anymore, and have been moved to storage, but can re appear for the fee of 200 dollars. he also claims that i took too long to reclaim them, but i have known rob for 10 years and talk to him on a seasonal basis in accordance with school. he has my email, phone number, facebook, and rx7club profile, and could have easily contacted me, so that argument is null and void.
what rob is claiming is that i owe him 200 dollars. the deal was i come by on a weekend day and bring some injectors he recommend i buy and he would install them for dinner, in which he decided to bring his son along and have me pay just to get his money's worth (which i couldnt really afford at the time). When we got the injectors in, the ecu didnt read the correct impedance, and the car wouldnt start. i didnt have a way back and was very far away.
rob offered to keep my car in his garage next to his, because doing so is easier than pulling the manifolds to reswap the injectors back, until we could tow it to lucky 7's to get the ecu spot tuned. i told him not to work on my car, just like i told him not to steal my hubs and put them on his car (because they are gorgous), and i came to find out that rob had tinkered with my car very much while i wasnt there, removing the whole manifold system. this frustrated me, because it confirmed that rob didnt respect what i said about my own property.
to cover the tow to lucky 7 i bought him 4 gallons of gas for a 10-20 mile tow, barely leaving myself enough to make it home myself and have enough to know where my next meal is coming from.
now, unless im forgetting something, the 'extra' work rob did was because my injectors didnt work, so he tried diagnosing them, pulling my manifolds against my will and wishes while i wasnt there, and he wasnt happy about 4 gallons and some 711 drinks for the tow.
i walked away from the situation happy and thankful that my car started and at least idled for the first time in many years and engines, no joke. rob was also happy to see me drive my car, saying its the happiest hes ever seen me.
now heres where things get really messy. my fc is a 20 year project. i know what im going to do to it at almost every step of the way to complete it. i scrap together money from odd jobs and leftover rent and yes, sometimes skipping meals or eating ramen, and i try to eek out a 200-400 dollar part a few times a year from my budget. this is all my personal business, but last year for instance, i scrapped enough money for a diffuser, wangan wing, and led tail lights, all for unbeatable prices that i could recoupe from selling my stock components. thats part of the game of owning an rx7, is being thrifty and still progressing. its why i chose a FC over a FD, actually.
so i walked away from the rob situation feeling that yes i inconvienced him by accidently breaking down infront of his house, but that was unintentional and really rob had more ability to foresee and solve the problem than i could, considering hes a methanol fuel guy. i was glad to have a friend who would help me out of that kind of situation. there was never any more money discussed or agreed apon, that was a DONE DEAL. i told him if i could ever help him or coach his son on driving, i would be more than happy, which was something i would have done for him anyway, being a nice guy. i just verbalized it.
before this whole breakdown, i had boughten these hubs from a local wheel shop in glendora. rob was ecstatic when i showed him the parts and couldnt believe the price i had gotten. they had been sittin in the warehouse for years, so i got them at half off. he pleeded with me to source him a similar part, and knowing how much he wanted them, i searched the internet all week in hopes of finding another set. i take all my parts to rob's house to show him after i purchase them in the area, its a ritual. this time rob DEMANDED that they stay with him, that he would help me press in new studs, and eventually help me put them on my car. i half jokingly said to him you better not hold my parts hostage, these are for my car, NOT YOURS. this all happened prior to the injector swap, and i remember skipping meals for DAYS to afford these bad boys, and they were well worth the sacrafice until rob punked them from me.
now i will say this, sometime around when i got the spot tune and tow from rob, i ran into huge credit card debt problems with school and my dad had a stroke and became disabled, not able to work or hold conversations well. i started missing credit card payments and was barely passing, not knowing if i would make it to school or not, or even eat. my rx7 became de prioritized, and unfortunately the battery died on it and its sat ever since. this has caused me to fall out of contact with rob for aprox 6 months, although i would message him on facebook, tag him in photos, and even send him messages when diecast models i thought he would like on ebay came up for sale!
2 days ago i went over to his house to show him a bumper i had recently purchased from shineauto, and he seemed very different. he knows i just sold my car and have money in the bank for next semester, so he smells its for the taking. he started telling me how i should take care of the people who take care of me, and that hes sour about my purchases since he helped me out. he said that the terms of that deal is that i am poor, and he said i am not poor. infact, he repeated im not poor about 200 times as i pleaded with him, telling him how i havnt eaten yet that day, how i dont have money or clothes, how i dont have a car, how the house im in im getting evicted from and is underwater, how my sisters and dad's house are floreclosed, but nothing was good enough to satisfy this 'poor' contingency. he said that because im from orange county and a upper class family that has taken a hard fall, i dont know what poor is and that he is renigging on the terms of our agreement based on his judgement that im not poor enough to meet his standards, 8 months later, after ive sold my car (for thousands under its worth). he started judging me, telling me i dont work for my stuff, that i dont sacrafice, and basically cast judgement apon me and my whole life, including family, financial, car, lifestyle, thoughts, opinions, etc. i kept telling him these are your opinions, and he said they arent, theyre facts.
after he got himself worked up over the fact that im not poor, and due to that conclusion, i must owe him for the labor he did 8 months prior. he said that he'll 'be nice' and charge me 200 dollars, which is less than what the shop would have charged me. i personally am not in the habbit of being blackmailed, randsomed, bullied, or told to pay someone i dont feel i owe, like theyre the mob or something. he told me that my parts had been moved from his attic to his storage unit, but when i asked if they were on his car already, he replied a sarcastic 'maybe'. this as the first time i had heard that he feels i owe him such an exuberant amount, especially after i bought him 100 dollars worth of gas, drinks, and dinner that i couldnt afford in the first place (i could hardly afford the injectors he was gonna help me swap).
so now, im in a position where i cant get my parts back that i sacraficed way harder for than he did for some injector swap and tow. and to be honest, if it came down to me chosing between the injector swap and the hubs, im a suspension nut, and i would have let the car been towed home and rot a little longer to retain my boutique suspension bits from japan. in this way hes being completely hypocritical, thinking he has authority and entitlement and a claim against my property. Hes taking something that was very very dear to me, saying i took his time, and his time is valuable to him. how can someone say im taking his time when the event happened 8 months ago, and is a seperate issue than the hubs? thats like me charging my little sister for teaching her how to play hop scotch way back when.
now rob has pitted his legion of friends against me, as hes quite adept that pretending to be nice and helping people, when he has alterior motives brewing away. they have made wild and false accusations against me, painting a picture of mass disrespect for me and my rights and my property. i was astonished to see people defend parts theiving, and thats when i recognised that a large part of the community has changed and been compromised.
i dont want to take rob to court. i dont want to cause any problems. i wanted to pick up my parts civilly, as im a christian, and again, a nice guy. i demanded my parts back for 3 hours and he refused, and the following day he still refused over facebook. he even called the police, and made a police report for harassment and stalking. hes being very stubborn and thinks that because hes entrenched with the local shops and online community, thats hes untouchable. infact, i dont think it would be going outside the rules of the post to say he has a superiority complex, to think he can get away with it and has the right, like i owe him, when i do not. shop ownders affiliated with rob did not weigh in over this matter, only privately telling me to resolve this issue as tactfully and quickly as possible.
what i want is justice. i want my parts back. i want my right to privacy and property. i want the forum leaders to realise that i am also a senior member, joining when i was 15 and now am 26. im tired of getting screwed.
those who stand against me stand against common decency, morality, and a community that does not tolerate such theft. ordering these parts from japan would cause me to sacrafice for a second time, but since they are twice as expensive, i would have to sacrafice twice as much, again. in this sense, rob is being completely unfair, underhanded, and trying to strongarm a young man half his age into submitting to his 'rape'. he actually stood there to my face, and told me breaking down infront of his house 8 months ago from his parts and him giving assistance was me 'raping him' for his time that he gave willingly. he said this while he was explaining that hes entitled to my parts (the definition of rape), and while he had someones junk rx7 taking up his driveway (someone actually possibley taking advantage of him). so he wants to twist everything to revolve around him him him, instead of whats right and just.
i think hes upset about the whole community using him time and time again, hes had a vert with no engine outside his house for 3 months. and i happen to be the guy thats targetable, with new sum of money, with parts hes holding, with a track record of giving up. he decided to make me his victim, when ive been an outstanding friend to him and have recognised how people use him and tried my damndest to not fall in suit. so he wired his brain to think that i owe him, like everyone else, and that he will take what he wants.
if someone reads this and still believes rob should hold possession of my property, i would have serious concerns for them. i believe its the constitution says i have the right to use and enjoy my property. if rob wants to return my property and take me to court for 200 dollars, thats american. him threatening me, judging me, blackmailing me, lying to me, and randsoming my parts are all intolerable and deserve my continued outrage. the 200 dollars he made up and my MSRP 600 dollar hubs are two completely seperate issues, but now that i have a little scratch in the bank for next semster, and he has my parts, hes willing to come up with any justification (neuological connection) to obtain some of my money or my parts. the parts are probably already on his car and he claimed he wants my money for his upcoming family vacation.
so...hes demanding money that i dont owe him for his family vacation, or hes keeping my parts he more than likely slapped on his car. all of this is uncessissary, underhanded, and low. i cant believe he thinks that that is appropriate or can convince others that i dont deserve my own things.
please ask rob to do the right thing and return my property and persue what -he feels- i owe him like a man and an american.
thank you.
all i want is my personal property back. i dont want to fight or call names. rob's whole basis for keeping my parts is judgement and feeling of authority over my life/finances, which is a complete attack of personal character. hes gone around telling people im some rich boy from newport beach (untrue), ive heard that i drive a M1 3 times now (also untrue), etc, etc, whatever will justify his actions in his own head. I've had to bring up family medical problems, foreclosures of property, credit card balances, and every single peice of private and personal information i can think of just to defend myself from rob and his friends.
as soon as i sold my 1 series, which was costing me an arm and leg to upkeep, and have some money in the bank for the first time in years and years, rob gets it in his head that he wants a taste of it and since he has my parts and i have little recourse, he took it apon himself to claim ownership to the hubs and more than likely installed them on his car. when questioned about the hubs, he said theyre not at his house and in his attic anymore, and have been moved to storage, but can re appear for the fee of 200 dollars. he also claims that i took too long to reclaim them, but i have known rob for 10 years and talk to him on a seasonal basis in accordance with school. he has my email, phone number, facebook, and rx7club profile, and could have easily contacted me, so that argument is null and void.
what rob is claiming is that i owe him 200 dollars. the deal was i come by on a weekend day and bring some injectors he recommend i buy and he would install them for dinner, in which he decided to bring his son along and have me pay just to get his money's worth (which i couldnt really afford at the time). When we got the injectors in, the ecu didnt read the correct impedance, and the car wouldnt start. i didnt have a way back and was very far away.
rob offered to keep my car in his garage next to his, because doing so is easier than pulling the manifolds to reswap the injectors back, until we could tow it to lucky 7's to get the ecu spot tuned. i told him not to work on my car, just like i told him not to steal my hubs and put them on his car (because they are gorgous), and i came to find out that rob had tinkered with my car very much while i wasnt there, removing the whole manifold system. this frustrated me, because it confirmed that rob didnt respect what i said about my own property.
to cover the tow to lucky 7 i bought him 4 gallons of gas for a 10-20 mile tow, barely leaving myself enough to make it home myself and have enough to know where my next meal is coming from.
now, unless im forgetting something, the 'extra' work rob did was because my injectors didnt work, so he tried diagnosing them, pulling my manifolds against my will and wishes while i wasnt there, and he wasnt happy about 4 gallons and some 711 drinks for the tow.
i walked away from the situation happy and thankful that my car started and at least idled for the first time in many years and engines, no joke. rob was also happy to see me drive my car, saying its the happiest hes ever seen me.
now heres where things get really messy. my fc is a 20 year project. i know what im going to do to it at almost every step of the way to complete it. i scrap together money from odd jobs and leftover rent and yes, sometimes skipping meals or eating ramen, and i try to eek out a 200-400 dollar part a few times a year from my budget. this is all my personal business, but last year for instance, i scrapped enough money for a diffuser, wangan wing, and led tail lights, all for unbeatable prices that i could recoupe from selling my stock components. thats part of the game of owning an rx7, is being thrifty and still progressing. its why i chose a FC over a FD, actually.
so i walked away from the rob situation feeling that yes i inconvienced him by accidently breaking down infront of his house, but that was unintentional and really rob had more ability to foresee and solve the problem than i could, considering hes a methanol fuel guy. i was glad to have a friend who would help me out of that kind of situation. there was never any more money discussed or agreed apon, that was a DONE DEAL. i told him if i could ever help him or coach his son on driving, i would be more than happy, which was something i would have done for him anyway, being a nice guy. i just verbalized it.
before this whole breakdown, i had boughten these hubs from a local wheel shop in glendora. rob was ecstatic when i showed him the parts and couldnt believe the price i had gotten. they had been sittin in the warehouse for years, so i got them at half off. he pleeded with me to source him a similar part, and knowing how much he wanted them, i searched the internet all week in hopes of finding another set. i take all my parts to rob's house to show him after i purchase them in the area, its a ritual. this time rob DEMANDED that they stay with him, that he would help me press in new studs, and eventually help me put them on my car. i half jokingly said to him you better not hold my parts hostage, these are for my car, NOT YOURS. this all happened prior to the injector swap, and i remember skipping meals for DAYS to afford these bad boys, and they were well worth the sacrafice until rob punked them from me.
now i will say this, sometime around when i got the spot tune and tow from rob, i ran into huge credit card debt problems with school and my dad had a stroke and became disabled, not able to work or hold conversations well. i started missing credit card payments and was barely passing, not knowing if i would make it to school or not, or even eat. my rx7 became de prioritized, and unfortunately the battery died on it and its sat ever since. this has caused me to fall out of contact with rob for aprox 6 months, although i would message him on facebook, tag him in photos, and even send him messages when diecast models i thought he would like on ebay came up for sale!
2 days ago i went over to his house to show him a bumper i had recently purchased from shineauto, and he seemed very different. he knows i just sold my car and have money in the bank for next semester, so he smells its for the taking. he started telling me how i should take care of the people who take care of me, and that hes sour about my purchases since he helped me out. he said that the terms of that deal is that i am poor, and he said i am not poor. infact, he repeated im not poor about 200 times as i pleaded with him, telling him how i havnt eaten yet that day, how i dont have money or clothes, how i dont have a car, how the house im in im getting evicted from and is underwater, how my sisters and dad's house are floreclosed, but nothing was good enough to satisfy this 'poor' contingency. he said that because im from orange county and a upper class family that has taken a hard fall, i dont know what poor is and that he is renigging on the terms of our agreement based on his judgement that im not poor enough to meet his standards, 8 months later, after ive sold my car (for thousands under its worth). he started judging me, telling me i dont work for my stuff, that i dont sacrafice, and basically cast judgement apon me and my whole life, including family, financial, car, lifestyle, thoughts, opinions, etc. i kept telling him these are your opinions, and he said they arent, theyre facts.
after he got himself worked up over the fact that im not poor, and due to that conclusion, i must owe him for the labor he did 8 months prior. he said that he'll 'be nice' and charge me 200 dollars, which is less than what the shop would have charged me. i personally am not in the habbit of being blackmailed, randsomed, bullied, or told to pay someone i dont feel i owe, like theyre the mob or something. he told me that my parts had been moved from his attic to his storage unit, but when i asked if they were on his car already, he replied a sarcastic 'maybe'. this as the first time i had heard that he feels i owe him such an exuberant amount, especially after i bought him 100 dollars worth of gas, drinks, and dinner that i couldnt afford in the first place (i could hardly afford the injectors he was gonna help me swap).
so now, im in a position where i cant get my parts back that i sacraficed way harder for than he did for some injector swap and tow. and to be honest, if it came down to me chosing between the injector swap and the hubs, im a suspension nut, and i would have let the car been towed home and rot a little longer to retain my boutique suspension bits from japan. in this way hes being completely hypocritical, thinking he has authority and entitlement and a claim against my property. Hes taking something that was very very dear to me, saying i took his time, and his time is valuable to him. how can someone say im taking his time when the event happened 8 months ago, and is a seperate issue than the hubs? thats like me charging my little sister for teaching her how to play hop scotch way back when.
now rob has pitted his legion of friends against me, as hes quite adept that pretending to be nice and helping people, when he has alterior motives brewing away. they have made wild and false accusations against me, painting a picture of mass disrespect for me and my rights and my property. i was astonished to see people defend parts theiving, and thats when i recognised that a large part of the community has changed and been compromised.
i dont want to take rob to court. i dont want to cause any problems. i wanted to pick up my parts civilly, as im a christian, and again, a nice guy. i demanded my parts back for 3 hours and he refused, and the following day he still refused over facebook. he even called the police, and made a police report for harassment and stalking. hes being very stubborn and thinks that because hes entrenched with the local shops and online community, thats hes untouchable. infact, i dont think it would be going outside the rules of the post to say he has a superiority complex, to think he can get away with it and has the right, like i owe him, when i do not. shop ownders affiliated with rob did not weigh in over this matter, only privately telling me to resolve this issue as tactfully and quickly as possible.
what i want is justice. i want my parts back. i want my right to privacy and property. i want the forum leaders to realise that i am also a senior member, joining when i was 15 and now am 26. im tired of getting screwed.
those who stand against me stand against common decency, morality, and a community that does not tolerate such theft. ordering these parts from japan would cause me to sacrafice for a second time, but since they are twice as expensive, i would have to sacrafice twice as much, again. in this sense, rob is being completely unfair, underhanded, and trying to strongarm a young man half his age into submitting to his 'rape'. he actually stood there to my face, and told me breaking down infront of his house 8 months ago from his parts and him giving assistance was me 'raping him' for his time that he gave willingly. he said this while he was explaining that hes entitled to my parts (the definition of rape), and while he had someones junk rx7 taking up his driveway (someone actually possibley taking advantage of him). so he wants to twist everything to revolve around him him him, instead of whats right and just.
i think hes upset about the whole community using him time and time again, hes had a vert with no engine outside his house for 3 months. and i happen to be the guy thats targetable, with new sum of money, with parts hes holding, with a track record of giving up. he decided to make me his victim, when ive been an outstanding friend to him and have recognised how people use him and tried my damndest to not fall in suit. so he wired his brain to think that i owe him, like everyone else, and that he will take what he wants.
if someone reads this and still believes rob should hold possession of my property, i would have serious concerns for them. i believe its the constitution says i have the right to use and enjoy my property. if rob wants to return my property and take me to court for 200 dollars, thats american. him threatening me, judging me, blackmailing me, lying to me, and randsoming my parts are all intolerable and deserve my continued outrage. the 200 dollars he made up and my MSRP 600 dollar hubs are two completely seperate issues, but now that i have a little scratch in the bank for next semster, and he has my parts, hes willing to come up with any justification (neuological connection) to obtain some of my money or my parts. the parts are probably already on his car and he claimed he wants my money for his upcoming family vacation.
so...hes demanding money that i dont owe him for his family vacation, or hes keeping my parts he more than likely slapped on his car. all of this is uncessissary, underhanded, and low. i cant believe he thinks that that is appropriate or can convince others that i dont deserve my own things.
please ask rob to do the right thing and return my property and persue what -he feels- i owe him like a man and an american.
thank you.
03-31-13, 08:34 AM
#4
also i want to add that ive known rob and raced with him for 10 years, seen his children grow up, and have even appeared in magazines with him. hes not a stranger. when i offered him my time in return for his time given, he said my time isnt valuable enough to him, and that he only wants my cash or parts.
so his time is worth my cash and stealing my parts, but my time offered is unacceptable? this sounds like a dictatorship! especially in a long term friendship.
to give you an idea, this is what i have gotten from rob as a response for my outrage and demands for my parts back...
"Robert
Now you have fucked yourself.. You wounder why you have no friends. We are done!! You come near me or harass me on any social media you will pay... Don't call me or come by.. we are done beause of your childish antics. This proves how stupid you are. DONE!"
"Robert
Small claims it is.. I will counter sue for malicious act on social media, harassment, and for repairs I did on your car.. I won't stop there.. I have a lawyer already. So do yourself a favor and tell the truth.. All your trying to do is get pity for other who don't know me from adam... If you notice that people who know me and the hell you put me in , they have not responed. Also This is not the first time you have done this to people .. I have many witnesses that I will bring into court.. You have done this to 7,s only, Luck7 racing and me... This will stop here.. I not a young punk like yourself... Grow up and be a man.. I don't see a man, I see a spoiled brat that try to take advantage Of people who felt sorry for you.. I have no pity for you... You facebook posting and any other posting WILL be dealt with in court.. You started this, I will finish this.."
Robert
"Dude you have issues. You have heard of harassment.. Keep it up! You will be the one in jail not me.. your making it harder on yourself! Everybody already knows you are a wack job. You will never get you car running .. You have fucked every rotary shop in town.. Good luck getting help. Everybody know me and I have never screwwd anybody over. I dare you to fine one.. Remember I'm well known... Good luck!!"
as you can see, hes planned that i will have a hard time retaliating because of his entrenchment like a cancer to the community. hes extremely self rightous and judgemental, and unwilling to participate in returning my belongings back. and when he says ive 'done this' to these other people, they are people that i have had less than pleasant experiences with, where i feel they have acted out of greed and violated my financial trust and property. for instance, 7s only racing charged me 8900 dollars for my cage and took a year to finish it, placing my car on a rack with a fork lift, when i had agreed with them that the cage would not exceed 2800 dollars! outragous? i think so! their justification? im a rich kid with a GTUs and nice shocks. seriously. sounds familiar, doesnt it rob?
he obviously wants to harm me in any way he can, if its through his friends, online, stealing my parts, demanding money, or spreading rumors. not to mention he wants to put me in jail for 'harassing' him over him stealing my property, when ive been polite as i can be and only verbal in asking for it back. so rx7roller, please help to resolve this issue, as this isnt my making or intention! i just want my hubs back!
so his time is worth my cash and stealing my parts, but my time offered is unacceptable? this sounds like a dictatorship! especially in a long term friendship.
to give you an idea, this is what i have gotten from rob as a response for my outrage and demands for my parts back...
"Robert
Now you have fucked yourself.. You wounder why you have no friends. We are done!! You come near me or harass me on any social media you will pay... Don't call me or come by.. we are done beause of your childish antics. This proves how stupid you are. DONE!"
"Robert
Small claims it is.. I will counter sue for malicious act on social media, harassment, and for repairs I did on your car.. I won't stop there.. I have a lawyer already. So do yourself a favor and tell the truth.. All your trying to do is get pity for other who don't know me from adam... If you notice that people who know me and the hell you put me in , they have not responed. Also This is not the first time you have done this to people .. I have many witnesses that I will bring into court.. You have done this to 7,s only, Luck7 racing and me... This will stop here.. I not a young punk like yourself... Grow up and be a man.. I don't see a man, I see a spoiled brat that try to take advantage Of people who felt sorry for you.. I have no pity for you... You facebook posting and any other posting WILL be dealt with in court.. You started this, I will finish this.."
Robert
"Dude you have issues. You have heard of harassment.. Keep it up! You will be the one in jail not me.. your making it harder on yourself! Everybody already knows you are a wack job. You will never get you car running .. You have fucked every rotary shop in town.. Good luck getting help. Everybody know me and I have never screwwd anybody over. I dare you to fine one.. Remember I'm well known... Good luck!!"
as you can see, hes planned that i will have a hard time retaliating because of his entrenchment like a cancer to the community. hes extremely self rightous and judgemental, and unwilling to participate in returning my belongings back. and when he says ive 'done this' to these other people, they are people that i have had less than pleasant experiences with, where i feel they have acted out of greed and violated my financial trust and property. for instance, 7s only racing charged me 8900 dollars for my cage and took a year to finish it, placing my car on a rack with a fork lift, when i had agreed with them that the cage would not exceed 2800 dollars! outragous? i think so! their justification? im a rich kid with a GTUs and nice shocks. seriously. sounds familiar, doesnt it rob?
he obviously wants to harm me in any way he can, if its through his friends, online, stealing my parts, demanding money, or spreading rumors. not to mention he wants to put me in jail for 'harassing' him over him stealing my property, when ive been polite as i can be and only verbal in asking for it back. so rx7roller, please help to resolve this issue, as this isnt my making or intention! i just want my hubs back!
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04-02-13, 04:14 PM
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let us know how it goes....because he told me he would respond in here when he got back into town. Regardless of if someone owes him money, he cannot simply keep unrelated parts in his possession like that.
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04-02-13, 10:49 PM
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Ok!!!! Here we go.
First off Russel you were never a friend. You were just an acquaintance that would race in the canyons at night. For you to say that you watched my kids grow is absurd. You may come around once awhile and chitchat before you went into Glendora Mtn Rd. So here I feel there is no friendship loss. My real friends would never take advantage of my generosity. I help a lot of people on this forum because I have an extensive background in Automotive and Electrical. This I don’t mind doing if the person is really broke and cannot fix their car.
Russell does come from a wealth family and a broken home. Who in their right mind buys their son a new wrx at 16 years old(that he crashed), then buys him a new S2000 (that he crashed), then buys him an E-production style car (still has today). This seems to be a scenario of parent that is not around so” I’ll buy him toys to make up for the lost time”.
Just to give you some background on Russell's history on his compulsive buying and compulsive lying acts. Russell calls Fris a Lucky 7 racing to have Fris tow Russell’s car back to the shop from San Juan Capistrano. Fris pulls apart the engine and finds the engine watered logged. At this point Russell tells Fris that he is broke and has no one to pay for the engine job. Russell than bought a rebuilt RE engine and transmission. I’m broke right! Fris installs the engine and Russell sends his upper intake manifold to a specialty shop to have it modified to increase horsepower. Again I’m broke! Right! So he spends about 3k after said and done. After he gets it tuned and does not break the engine in, he than heads to the canyons and races his car. After a week later he comes by to give me a ride in the canyons to show me how fast it is. As we headed into the canyons he blows the engine. I tried to help him but nothing I can do about a blown engine. He drives it home on one rotor. So fast forward one month later he asked me to help him get his car running right. He tells me I broke and Fries will not work on his car anymore. At this point he pissed off Fris and Tony from Lucky 7 tell them they screwed him over and over charged them. For a broke kid to spend close 10k on a want to racecar is unnecessary. And he says he is broke!!! NOT! Russell begs me to help him because he has no money and was kicked out of his house and I was stupid that I believed him. As a kind person and passionate rx7 enthusiast I told him I’d help him out. Since Fris and the Lucky 7 crew are my friends, I thought that maybe I could smooth things out.
Russell brings his Rx7 to my house that was backfiring and barely idling. He asked me to look at his car and find out what’s wrong with his N/A Re engine. I found it to have an old e6k haltech ecu with 1600cc injectors in the secondary’s and 850cc injectors in the primary’s. Which was setup for a turbo not an N/A. I told him to set it up right you need a pair of 550cc injectors to put into the primary’s and the 850cc injectors that he has into the secondary’s. Also told him he can recoup his money by selling the 1600cc injectors. Mind you I’m doing this out of my good heart to help Russell out. So he orders the injectors and by the time he gets them I have the manifold off to get ready to install them. He never said not to work on his car while he was gone. Why would I have his car at my house if I were not supposing to work on it? Whatever! So we (Russell and I) remove the injectors and install the correct injectors. Also I repaired the harness because it was falling apart. Of coarse the car is not going to run right because the haltech was not tuned. So I called my friends to see if they can come over to put a base tune on the car so it can run. My friend declined to because of dealing with Russell. So I called Tony at Lucky 7 and asked him to do me a favor (out of my kind heart) to put a base tune on Russell’s car so he can go home. It took me awhile to persuade Tony to put a base tune on his car. I told Russell to pay for my gas to tow his car to Lucky7 Racing. Mind you I’m 30 miles there and 30 miles back for a total of 60 miles. Gas at that time was $4.50 gallon. I tow his car to Luck7 Racing and Tony puts a base tune on his car so he can get home. Russell was happy. We get to the gas station and Russell says “I only have $16 dollars to give you for gas”. At this point I was thinking what a cheap bastard but he was suppose to be broke. RIGHT! Whatever I’m not hurting for money. I make very good money. So Russell heads home and returns to take me and my son out to dinner.
Russell shows up in an m1 BMW that his dad bought him new. The signs were there but I didn’t listen. He is not broke!!! He also told me that he moved in for free into his dad’s condo in Newport Beach. Also pulls out of his BMW a custom spindle and custom hubs for his want to be Rx7. He asked me what I thought about them. I told him the spindles are useless crap but the hubs will work. So he did take my son and I out to dinner. Then we went to my house and popped out the studs so he can get extended stud. He comes back the next day to press in the studs and they were wrong. During this he was fighting with Fris at Lucky7 about how they took advantage of him. We all know that is not true!!!! After a week goes by Russell posted pictures of new parts he bought for his Rx7. He bought a carbon fiber diffuser, LED S5 taillight and a wagan wing. For a broke person, you sure do have money for expensive parts. I called him to question him about the parts. He said he buys stuff because it makes him feel better. I’m thinking how about taking car of me because I spent my time away from my family to help his so call broke ***. Russell kept avoiding the question. After that Russell never showed up to press the studs in. So Russell disappears for a year. On the 28 of March Russell calls me to tell me sold his Bmw and is heading to Shine auto to buy a front bumper and side skirts for $500 buck. Russell than came over to show me all the parts he had bought. At this point I was getting ready for my sons race in San Diego and getting my camping gear ready. Russell asks me for the hubs and I told him they were in storage. If I kept all the rx7 stuff in my garage I could not park my wife’s car in. He seems to get mad because they weren’t here. I also told hi to come back on Wednesday for his parts. But I also want to talk to about the issue about taking advantage of my by saying he was broke when he has a compulsive buying disorder which he admitted to me. This is were its gets out of hand. I spent 4hrs of my life going round and round with him. He asked me what Fris would charge to do what I did for him and I replied $450. I told him I normally charge $200 to $250. Half of what Lucky7 would charge. So he assumed that I was keeping his hubs for ransom. I never said anything about keeping them. At this point I told Russell to get out of my house. I need to get my son’s kart ready for his race, the next morning.
Russell then posted on Facebook about me stealing his hubs. I find this out and sent him a message that said “Now you have fucked yourself. You wonder why you have no friends. We are done!! You come near me or harass me on any social media you will pay... Don't call me or come by. We are done because of your childish antics. This proves how stupid you are. DONE!". This is because of his childish ways of dealing with life. Instead of waiting until I get home from vacation!!!!! (This was Easter weekend) I don’t deserve to be treated like this! Really there is no reason for me to post in here because this has nothing to do with the Rx7club. It’s between me and Russell. Rx7roller02 no disrespect but this issue does not concern you and this thread should be deleted. I have never stolen part or screwed one person over. As for Russell there is not one shop in southern California that will work on your junk. Every shop you come to seems to have an issue with you. I will see that everyone knows about your compulsive lying and compulsive buying. Just look at his posting. I want to buy,buy,buy.. No Money huh!!!! Right!!!! I will return his hubs like I said.
Russell, Out of all this I want a public apology to me on Facebook and here!!!!! Also you will sign a noticed that you received the hubs..
First off Russel you were never a friend. You were just an acquaintance that would race in the canyons at night. For you to say that you watched my kids grow is absurd. You may come around once awhile and chitchat before you went into Glendora Mtn Rd. So here I feel there is no friendship loss. My real friends would never take advantage of my generosity. I help a lot of people on this forum because I have an extensive background in Automotive and Electrical. This I don’t mind doing if the person is really broke and cannot fix their car.
Russell does come from a wealth family and a broken home. Who in their right mind buys their son a new wrx at 16 years old(that he crashed), then buys him a new S2000 (that he crashed), then buys him an E-production style car (still has today). This seems to be a scenario of parent that is not around so” I’ll buy him toys to make up for the lost time”.
Just to give you some background on Russell's history on his compulsive buying and compulsive lying acts. Russell calls Fris a Lucky 7 racing to have Fris tow Russell’s car back to the shop from San Juan Capistrano. Fris pulls apart the engine and finds the engine watered logged. At this point Russell tells Fris that he is broke and has no one to pay for the engine job. Russell than bought a rebuilt RE engine and transmission. I’m broke right! Fris installs the engine and Russell sends his upper intake manifold to a specialty shop to have it modified to increase horsepower. Again I’m broke! Right! So he spends about 3k after said and done. After he gets it tuned and does not break the engine in, he than heads to the canyons and races his car. After a week later he comes by to give me a ride in the canyons to show me how fast it is. As we headed into the canyons he blows the engine. I tried to help him but nothing I can do about a blown engine. He drives it home on one rotor. So fast forward one month later he asked me to help him get his car running right. He tells me I broke and Fries will not work on his car anymore. At this point he pissed off Fris and Tony from Lucky 7 tell them they screwed him over and over charged them. For a broke kid to spend close 10k on a want to racecar is unnecessary. And he says he is broke!!! NOT! Russell begs me to help him because he has no money and was kicked out of his house and I was stupid that I believed him. As a kind person and passionate rx7 enthusiast I told him I’d help him out. Since Fris and the Lucky 7 crew are my friends, I thought that maybe I could smooth things out.
Russell brings his Rx7 to my house that was backfiring and barely idling. He asked me to look at his car and find out what’s wrong with his N/A Re engine. I found it to have an old e6k haltech ecu with 1600cc injectors in the secondary’s and 850cc injectors in the primary’s. Which was setup for a turbo not an N/A. I told him to set it up right you need a pair of 550cc injectors to put into the primary’s and the 850cc injectors that he has into the secondary’s. Also told him he can recoup his money by selling the 1600cc injectors. Mind you I’m doing this out of my good heart to help Russell out. So he orders the injectors and by the time he gets them I have the manifold off to get ready to install them. He never said not to work on his car while he was gone. Why would I have his car at my house if I were not supposing to work on it? Whatever! So we (Russell and I) remove the injectors and install the correct injectors. Also I repaired the harness because it was falling apart. Of coarse the car is not going to run right because the haltech was not tuned. So I called my friends to see if they can come over to put a base tune on the car so it can run. My friend declined to because of dealing with Russell. So I called Tony at Lucky 7 and asked him to do me a favor (out of my kind heart) to put a base tune on Russell’s car so he can go home. It took me awhile to persuade Tony to put a base tune on his car. I told Russell to pay for my gas to tow his car to Lucky7 Racing. Mind you I’m 30 miles there and 30 miles back for a total of 60 miles. Gas at that time was $4.50 gallon. I tow his car to Luck7 Racing and Tony puts a base tune on his car so he can get home. Russell was happy. We get to the gas station and Russell says “I only have $16 dollars to give you for gas”. At this point I was thinking what a cheap bastard but he was suppose to be broke. RIGHT! Whatever I’m not hurting for money. I make very good money. So Russell heads home and returns to take me and my son out to dinner.
Russell shows up in an m1 BMW that his dad bought him new. The signs were there but I didn’t listen. He is not broke!!! He also told me that he moved in for free into his dad’s condo in Newport Beach. Also pulls out of his BMW a custom spindle and custom hubs for his want to be Rx7. He asked me what I thought about them. I told him the spindles are useless crap but the hubs will work. So he did take my son and I out to dinner. Then we went to my house and popped out the studs so he can get extended stud. He comes back the next day to press in the studs and they were wrong. During this he was fighting with Fris at Lucky7 about how they took advantage of him. We all know that is not true!!!! After a week goes by Russell posted pictures of new parts he bought for his Rx7. He bought a carbon fiber diffuser, LED S5 taillight and a wagan wing. For a broke person, you sure do have money for expensive parts. I called him to question him about the parts. He said he buys stuff because it makes him feel better. I’m thinking how about taking car of me because I spent my time away from my family to help his so call broke ***. Russell kept avoiding the question. After that Russell never showed up to press the studs in. So Russell disappears for a year. On the 28 of March Russell calls me to tell me sold his Bmw and is heading to Shine auto to buy a front bumper and side skirts for $500 buck. Russell than came over to show me all the parts he had bought. At this point I was getting ready for my sons race in San Diego and getting my camping gear ready. Russell asks me for the hubs and I told him they were in storage. If I kept all the rx7 stuff in my garage I could not park my wife’s car in. He seems to get mad because they weren’t here. I also told hi to come back on Wednesday for his parts. But I also want to talk to about the issue about taking advantage of my by saying he was broke when he has a compulsive buying disorder which he admitted to me. This is were its gets out of hand. I spent 4hrs of my life going round and round with him. He asked me what Fris would charge to do what I did for him and I replied $450. I told him I normally charge $200 to $250. Half of what Lucky7 would charge. So he assumed that I was keeping his hubs for ransom. I never said anything about keeping them. At this point I told Russell to get out of my house. I need to get my son’s kart ready for his race, the next morning.
Russell then posted on Facebook about me stealing his hubs. I find this out and sent him a message that said “Now you have fucked yourself. You wonder why you have no friends. We are done!! You come near me or harass me on any social media you will pay... Don't call me or come by. We are done because of your childish antics. This proves how stupid you are. DONE!". This is because of his childish ways of dealing with life. Instead of waiting until I get home from vacation!!!!! (This was Easter weekend) I don’t deserve to be treated like this! Really there is no reason for me to post in here because this has nothing to do with the Rx7club. It’s between me and Russell. Rx7roller02 no disrespect but this issue does not concern you and this thread should be deleted. I have never stolen part or screwed one person over. As for Russell there is not one shop in southern California that will work on your junk. Every shop you come to seems to have an issue with you. I will see that everyone knows about your compulsive lying and compulsive buying. Just look at his posting. I want to buy,buy,buy.. No Money huh!!!! Right!!!! I will return his hubs like I said.
Russell, Out of all this I want a public apology to me on Facebook and here!!!!! Also you will sign a noticed that you received the hubs..
Last edited by IB Cristina; 11-24-14 at 06:43 PM.
04-03-13, 12:04 AM
#9
today i told rob my car got towed and i am under stress having to find a place/move. he asked if i am going to be apologising on the forums and facebook media. i explained that i posted that he was cooperating, and that i already personally apologised to him. i also told him that i would apologise for the massive train-wreck it caused, but that not for pursuing my property.
just to put it in perspective, i told him i didnt think he was about to apologise on the forums. then he posts this message. some of it is innaccurate, but it shows that this is a personal vendetta and attack against me.
again, i dont think robert understands what hypocracy is. its very hypocritical to demand an apology, and then make such a personal attack directly after. if it was up to rob, this thread would be deleted and he would maintain control over my parts. thats why i cant apologise to him for persuing my parts. im very sorry that all this happened, rob. and this is before i get my stuff back. but i cant be sorry for sticking to my morals and ethics, and persuing my parts.
again, if i didnt do facebook and rx7club, you were not going to respond civilly, decently, or correctly. furthermore, if i didnt make a public claim, robert would have continued to judge me so openly and convincingly.
one of my many apologies is in this thread. do i get one, too?
just to put it in perspective, i told him i didnt think he was about to apologise on the forums. then he posts this message. some of it is innaccurate, but it shows that this is a personal vendetta and attack against me.
again, i dont think robert understands what hypocracy is. its very hypocritical to demand an apology, and then make such a personal attack directly after. if it was up to rob, this thread would be deleted and he would maintain control over my parts. thats why i cant apologise to him for persuing my parts. im very sorry that all this happened, rob. and this is before i get my stuff back. but i cant be sorry for sticking to my morals and ethics, and persuing my parts.
again, if i didnt do facebook and rx7club, you were not going to respond civilly, decently, or correctly. furthermore, if i didnt make a public claim, robert would have continued to judge me so openly and convincingly.
one of my many apologies is in this thread. do i get one, too?
04-03-13, 02:01 AM
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Ok!!!! Here we go.
First off Russel you were never a friend. You were just an acquaintance that would race in the canyons at night. For you to say that you watched my kids grow is absurd. You may come around once awhile and chitchat before you went into Glendora Mtn Rd. So here I feel there is no friendship loss. My real friends would never take advantage of my generosity. I help a lot of people on this forum because I have an extensive background in Automotive and Electrical. This I don’t mind doing if the person is really broke and cannot fix their car.
Russell does come from a wealth family and a broken home. Who in their right mind buys their son a new wrx at 16 years old(that he crashed), then buys him a new S2000 (that he crashed), then buys him an E-production style car (still has today). This seems to be a scenario of parent that is not around so” I’ll buy him toys to make up for the lost time”.
Just to give you some background on Russell's history.....
First off Russel you were never a friend. You were just an acquaintance that would race in the canyons at night. For you to say that you watched my kids grow is absurd. You may come around once awhile and chitchat before you went into Glendora Mtn Rd. So here I feel there is no friendship loss. My real friends would never take advantage of my generosity. I help a lot of people on this forum because I have an extensive background in Automotive and Electrical. This I don’t mind doing if the person is really broke and cannot fix their car.
Russell does come from a wealth family and a broken home. Who in their right mind buys their son a new wrx at 16 years old(that he crashed), then buys him a new S2000 (that he crashed), then buys him an E-production style car (still has today). This seems to be a scenario of parent that is not around so” I’ll buy him toys to make up for the lost time”.
Just to give you some background on Russell's history.....
Russell brings his Rx7 to my house that was backfiring and barely idling. He asked me to look at his car and find out what’s wrong with his N/A Re engine.
I found it to have an old e6k haltech ecu with 1600cc injectors in the secondary’s and 850cc injectors in the primary’s. Which was setup for a turbo not an N/A. I told him to set it up right you need a pair of 550cc injectors to put into the primary’s and the 850cc injectors that he has into the secondary’s. Also told him he can recoup his money by selling the 1600cc injectors. Mind you I’m doing this out of my good heart to help Russell out. So he orders the injectors and by the time he gets them I have the manifold off to get ready to install them. He never said not to work on his car while he was gone. Why would I have his car at my house if I were not supposing to work on it? Whatever! So we (Russell and I) remove the injectors and install the correct injectors. Also I repaired the harness because it was falling apart. Of coarse the car is not going to run right because the haltech was not tuned. So I called my friends to see if they can come over to put a base tune on the car so it can run. My friend declined to because of dealing with Russell. So I called Tony at Lucky 7 and asked him to do me a favor (out of my kind heart) to put a base tune on Russell’s car so he can go home. It took me awhile to persuade Tony to put a base tune on his car. I told Russell to pay for my gas to tow his car to Lucky7 Racing. Mind you I’m 30 miles there and 30 miles back for a total of 60 miles. Gas at that time was $4.50 gallon. I tow his car to Luck7 Racing and Tony puts a base tune on his car so he can get home. Russell was happy. We get to the gas station and Russell says “I only have $16 dollars to give you for gas”. At this point I was thinking what a cheap bastard but he was suppose to be broke. RIGHT! Whatever I’m not hurting for money. I make very good money. So Russell heads home and returns to take me and my son out to dinner.
Russell shows up in an m1 BMW that his dad bought him new. The signs were there but I didn’t listen. He is not broke!!! He also told me that he moved in for free into his dad’s condo in Newport Beach. Also pulls out of his BMW a custom spindle and custom hubs for his want to be Rx7. He asked me what I thought about them. I told him the spindles are useless crap but the hubs will work. So he did take my son and I out to dinner. Then we went to my house and popped out the studs so he can get extended stud.
He comes back the next day to press in the studs and they were wrong. During this he was fighting with Fris at Lucky7 about how they took advantage of him. We all know that is not true!!!! After a week goes by Russell posted pictures of new parts he bought for his Rx7. He bought a carbon fiber diffuser, LED S5 taillight and a wagan wing. For a broke person, you sure do have money for expensive parts. I called him to question him about the parts. He said he buys stuff because it makes him feel better. I’m thinking how about taking car of me because I spent my time away from my family to help his so call broke ***. Russell kept avoiding the question.
After that Russell never showed up to press the studs in. So Russell disappears for a year. On the 28 of March Russell calls me to tell me sold his Bmw and is heading to Shine auto to buy a front bumper and side skirts for $500 buck. Russell than came over to show me all the parts he had bought. At this point I was getting ready for my sons race in San Diego and getting my camping gear ready. Russell asks me for the hubs and I told him they were in storage. If I kept all the rx7 stuff in my garage I could not park my wife’s car in. He seems to get mad because they weren’t here. I also told hi to come back on Wednesday for his parts. But I also want to talk to about the issue about taking advantage of my by saying he was broke when he has a compulsive buying disorder which he admitted to me. This is were its gets out of hand. I spent 4hrs of my life going round and round with him. He asked me what Fris would charge to do what I did for him and I replied $450. I told him I normally charge $200 to $250. Half of what Lucky7 would charge. So he assumed that I was keeping his hubs for ransom. I never said anything about keeping them. At this point I told Russell to get out of my house. I need to get my son’s kart ready for his race, the next morning.
Russell then posted on Facebook about me stealing his hubs.
It’s between me and Russell. Rx7roller02 no disrespect but this issue does not concern you and this thread should be deleted.
I have never stolen part or screwed one person over.
I will return his hubs like I said.
Russell, Out of all this I want a public apology to me on Facebook and here!!!!! Also you will sign a noticed that you received the hubs..
This is the reason why this thread will not be deleted. Because that apology will be posted in this thread, as will his statement when he receives his hubs back.
NOW, on to the next post.....Russell, you and I have a little problem.
Last edited by IB Cristina; 11-24-14 at 06:44 PM.
04-03-13, 02:38 AM
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Um, yeah, about that whole "I really am broke" bit.....youve got some explaining to do, hoss....
Care to tell me what these threads all have in common, chief??
Here, we see you inquiring about buying a $4500 car....
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generati...owner-1029615/
Here you are, asking about a $2200 GTUs......
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generati...-gtus-1019630/
Here, we see you asking about buying parts off of a RHD car.....
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generati...shell-1004717/
HERE, youre asking about more parts...
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generati.../#post11335415
HERE, youre asking about a SuperNow kit....
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generati.../#post11335414
In fact, I had to go back to last April to find a post from you that wasnt inquiring about someone's parts or car for sale....and even then, you were boasting about all the goodies you put on the back of your car...
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generati...-month-994660/
So, you have got to be the richest friggin broke guy Ive ever seen.
So heres what is going to happen, and this is not optional, you can take it or you can leave it.
1--he will return your parts to you--in a reasonable amount of time but not something that excessively inconveniences him. By reasonable, you two should be able to work something out within the next two weeks since he is now back from his trip.
2--you will post in this thread when you get the hubs back.
3--you will apologize to him for lying about how broke you are, and for assuming he was trying to keep your parts simply because he wouldnt go get them at your beckon call, and you will apologize to ME for the way you handled this whole issue. So far, I have not seen ANYTHING that shows me that he was holding parts for ransom. I see where you could try to come to that conclusion, but accusations made on this forum need more than assumptions behind them.
Thats the deal. Take it or leave it. And when this is done, I dont expect to hear anything more about it or see anything more about it anywhere on this forum. If I see you trying to tell people that this guy stole your parts again, you will be banned. By your own admission, you only see him from time to time as you pass through, yet you make it sound like he's been avoiding you and pushing you off every day or something.
I'm also quite a bit concerned....you graduated from Saddleback College in 2009 with an associate's degree in business management/accounting, and you graduated from Cal Fullerton last year with a degree in FINANCE.....and you spend money like this? Dude, youve got a problem, and you need to seek help. Youre talking about how "two of our properties were just foreclosed on", and youre going this nuts over several different RX7s and parts.....but youve got a FINANCE degree, and you claim to be BROKE??
Get your stuff together, son, or life's gonna whack you in the *** big time.
At this point, no one should be posting in this thread aside from mods and these two. Lets keep it that way.
04-03-13, 04:52 AM
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rx7roller
him demanding the 200 dollars out of the blue or he wasnt going to give me the parts back made me feel like they were for ransom, i dont know what you want to call that, but i knew it was wrong as you stated.
im also concerned for myself, but i have way too many people pointing stuff out about me that i dont know, and thats not right either. im in my last semester + summer school starting up in 5 days, which i pay for myself. life's already taking it's cracks at me, dont you worry.
i also want to point out that the GTUs and savanah shells i always inquire about (i know someone doing the infini build and many GTUs owners), and the LSD is part of my build list and also was for sale by a friend (was hoping it was used and i could sell my pumpkin for more), and the 4500 dollar car i offered 2 grand on because i need a DD, and he is also my friend. youll also know im asking him his opinion of the bearings of the supernow tie rods, as ive never felt them before and was curious. i think its best not to assume the worst, as i shop more than i buy. the for sale section is my favorite place on the forum and have watched it carefully since before i had a rx7. although i can see how someone can jump to conclusions here. a lot of the times i post in peoples threads halfway expecting a flame from one friend or another, as the parts game is coming to an end. i will tell you what is in common with all those threads, my friend, i didnt buy one single item from any of them
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i never ment to mislead anybody, and you and rob both have my apologies. i wouldnt have done any of this if i thought i would receive the hubs back through regular means.
again, i think its unfair to say i lied about how broke i was, ive been very open with rob about my life and finances for years. its his interperatation that changed.
and secondly, i felt my parts were being stolen because a dollar figure and an ultimatum was applied to them. he wasnt going to bother to go find them unless i coughed up 200 bucks.
you guys have my apologies. please give me my stuff back without hurting me or them, and thank you moderator for your diligence.
him demanding the 200 dollars out of the blue or he wasnt going to give me the parts back made me feel like they were for ransom, i dont know what you want to call that, but i knew it was wrong as you stated.
im also concerned for myself, but i have way too many people pointing stuff out about me that i dont know, and thats not right either. im in my last semester + summer school starting up in 5 days, which i pay for myself. life's already taking it's cracks at me, dont you worry.
i also want to point out that the GTUs and savanah shells i always inquire about (i know someone doing the infini build and many GTUs owners), and the LSD is part of my build list and also was for sale by a friend (was hoping it was used and i could sell my pumpkin for more), and the 4500 dollar car i offered 2 grand on because i need a DD, and he is also my friend. youll also know im asking him his opinion of the bearings of the supernow tie rods, as ive never felt them before and was curious. i think its best not to assume the worst, as i shop more than i buy. the for sale section is my favorite place on the forum and have watched it carefully since before i had a rx7. although i can see how someone can jump to conclusions here. a lot of the times i post in peoples threads halfway expecting a flame from one friend or another, as the parts game is coming to an end. i will tell you what is in common with all those threads, my friend, i didnt buy one single item from any of them
.i never ment to mislead anybody, and you and rob both have my apologies. i wouldnt have done any of this if i thought i would receive the hubs back through regular means.
again, i think its unfair to say i lied about how broke i was, ive been very open with rob about my life and finances for years. its his interperatation that changed.
and secondly, i felt my parts were being stolen because a dollar figure and an ultimatum was applied to them. he wasnt going to bother to go find them unless i coughed up 200 bucks.
you guys have my apologies. please give me my stuff back without hurting me or them, and thank you moderator for your diligence.
04-03-13, 11:18 AM
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So, youre broke but you offered $2K to buy someone's car? I dont suppose all that college education you just received was enough to inform you that if you have $2000 to offer to someone to buy their car that you are not broke?
you know what, nevermind. I dont need to hear anything more about how you handle your finances. Lets focus on getting this issue resolved now.
you know what, nevermind. I dont need to hear anything more about how you handle your finances. Lets focus on getting this issue resolved now.
04-04-13, 01:11 AM
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YOUR POST HAS BEEN DELETED....if youre curious as to why, refer to the second post in this thread. I made it crystal clear that this thread was not for you--that you were to stay out of it. And while I appreciate that you approve of the efforts of the mod team, I do not appreciate the fact that you chose to ignore a very simple instruction.
I made it clear that nothing like this would be tolerated, and we damn sure dont need any parting shots against either side of this issue. Next time you ignore instruction like this, you can count on a temporary vacation yourself. We do not get paid anything for the work that we do here at all---so since youre so concerned about how your friend Robert gets his hands dirty, imagine how pissed off it makes me when I make such a simple rule for this thread and seemingly intelligent people blow me the hell off just so they can take a cheap shot at someone that they arent even involved in this issue with.
Now, I have said it TWICE in this thread--that no one should be posting here aside from mods and the two parties in this mess. This makes THREE. If anyone else chooses to ignore it, they will be sent packing. Count on it.
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I made it clear that nothing like this would be tolerated, and we damn sure dont need any parting shots against either side of this issue. Next time you ignore instruction like this, you can count on a temporary vacation yourself. We do not get paid anything for the work that we do here at all---so since youre so concerned about how your friend Robert gets his hands dirty, imagine how pissed off it makes me when I make such a simple rule for this thread and seemingly intelligent people blow me the hell off just so they can take a cheap shot at someone that they arent even involved in this issue with.
Now, I have said it TWICE in this thread--that no one should be posting here aside from mods and the two parties in this mess. This makes THREE. If anyone else chooses to ignore it, they will be sent packing. Count on it.
--rx7roller02
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04-05-13, 06:33 PM
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Robert--
The guy did say his car got towed....how close is he to where you live? if he is further away, perhaps he could pay for shipping? Just a thought....I dont know how close he is to you or what other arrangements he can make. Russell, feel free to chime in and answer that as well....
The guy did say his car got towed....how close is he to where you live? if he is further away, perhaps he could pay for shipping? Just a thought....I dont know how close he is to you or what other arrangements he can make. Russell, feel free to chime in and answer that as well....
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