Rancid7

this thread was useless . when rebuild time comes im using kevin at R.R.
As long as he cleans all the grime off ! (sarcasm) .

Beep777

Oh my God Mar...you were Kevin's little lapdog in this thread from a few weeks back...

http://www.rx7forum.com/showthread.p...8&page=3&pp=15

Are you having a lover's quarrel now? It looks like he bitch slapped you to the curb. I am sure you will meet the right guy some day.

B

rx7 FC TII

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ill also be using RR for my rebuild coming up this summer...

kevin, sorry you had to deal with yet another dumbass customer

RotaryResurrection

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To add fuel to the fire...

The buyer's comments about these parts not being useable, I must disagree. If the parts can go together and allow the engine to run well, then I define that as being useable. Not always ideal, but useable. So yes, a turbo manifold with a crack is useable.

Oh, I found pics of a turbo manifold for sale. Let's check it out.

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sel...0234.JPG_s.jpg

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sel...0235.JPG_s.jpg

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sel...0237.JPG_s.jpg

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sel...0238.JPG_s.jpg

Wait, what's that...a crack? in a series 4 turbo manifold? NO WAY DUDE, it can't be. take a look at the pics, there are very pronounced, and normal cracks in the manifold.

Rxmfn7

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While I may not have any actual relevance to either party here, I have dealt with Kevin many, many times in the past, and even though Ive never met him in person, I know he is of good character and consider him a friend. I know he would never ship something out that wasnt usable. To the OP, you got at least twice what you had paid worth of parts, and you are complaning because it was shipped to you dirty? Come on man, seriously.. If you wanted brand new parts and everything spotless and clean, cough up the money and get an engine from a high end builder like pineapple or racing beat. Kevin provides affordable rebuilds and parts for alot of the community that doesnt have the cash to go and spend $6-10k at these other places, and thats not to say that Kevins work is subpar or not acceptable in any way, but you get what you pay for. Im sure Kevin will agree with what Im saying, why should he take the time and professionally clean everything he sends out, when they are used parts that can be almost 2 decades old, and hes not making much/any profit? You act like you didnt get what you paid for or got ripped off, which just isnt the case. Im sure if there is an actual defect or malfunction in any of the parts, Kevin would be happy to work with you. But complaining because they arent clean is just assinine....

13B-RX3

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Hell, you could have easily spent $2600 worth of time defending yourself from this pukes accusations. I don't see that anything was done wrong by Kevin and i have gained a lot of respect for him lately.

And Wizzbangca, it seems VERY obvious that you are a skilled rotary engine builder/mechanic. Why didn't you just build the engine yourself to your own standards. I am sure you could have done it for less than $2600? You could have saved a lot of money and would have known it was done correctly.

13b4me

Can't be too skilled if he doesn't know what Hylomar is.

RotaryResurrection

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that's what I was thinking, too.

...or never having seen a cracked s4 turbo manifold, and acting as if that is something new.

banzaitoyota

Even when you shell out More money at other builders you get shipped ****!

RotaryResurrection

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Speaking of, John, what's the status of our business together? I'd forgotten about it until I noticed the extra seal set laying on the shelf a couple of days ago.

banzaitoyota

I finally have a freee fridar next week, will be going to R&L then

13B-RX3

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Sorry, forgot to put the <sarcasm> thing in there.

rx7roller02

dude, I really think you need to sit back, take a breath, and shut the hell up now. You got one hell of a price on a rebuild....then you got a ton of parts thrown in for nothing. And youre whining about a friggin manifold? dude--STFU already. If a cracked mani bothers you this much, go on ebay and buy the ssauthchrome one already. You clearly have no experience with this. I say this because you dont seem to be able to differentiate between what is useable and what your preference is. you didnt pay for brand new parts, in fact you didnt pay for the extras at all, so why the hell are you whining??

Face it--you got a good rebuild on a shortblock, and you got a ton of other parts thrown in for free. Take what you got and make it work the way it was advertised:

next....

1---he already was very clear about how he prepped the parts by cleaning the gasket mating surfaces down to metal....so why are you claiming "possibly" now? Look--again, stop whining like a girl. you got one sweet deal for the $$$ you paid.

2--clean enough to assemble? So, are you telling me that it wasnt clean enough to assemble? Then WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DISASSEMBLE ALL OF IT TO MAKE THIS THREAD? Seems to me that you dont even know what it "also means", based on your own actions and your words here. It obviously came to you assembled, and since he put all of it on that shortblock, there is no doubt that it was "clean enough to assemble", bonehead....

--which is what you paid for. The rest was thrown in to make your life easier, and you should at least be smart enough to realize that if he didnt do that you would be looking all over for those parts now...

again, stop whining like a girl. he clearly states in the FS ad that you should go over things on the engine because parts are original and have a lot of miles on them. Who on earth is dumb enough to purchase a budget rebuild, with a lot of parts thrown in, and NOT check/replace things like that? You have the engine out of the car--how hard is it for you to yank the pan and change the gasket? You bought a budget engine for a budget price, knowing it was a budget engine, and now you are whining like a bitch because you wanted more than a budget engine....you are made of fail

Busted7

I would imagine Kevin would like to make enough money to do half the work and use all new parts! But then were would those people without 6,000 to 8,000 go to get even close to a fair product. I paid three times the amount you did and i got pan gasket in a box. Everyone better hope Kevin doesent get fed up and take construction forman job. Hes got the laungauge down!

RotaryResurrection

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...and the ownership continues. The Picard is pleased.

mar3

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Slight digression from the topic at hand, but I can't let this go unanswered as the Kerry/Swift Boat embroglio clearly showed in 2004...

Boldface originally posted Beep777

Oh my God Mar...you were Kevin's little lapdog in this thread from a few weeks back...

And I was his lapdog here at first....you'll notice that I said "Devil's advocate" right when I took the opposing view point...



Are you having a lover's quarrel now?

No, Kevin has never like me since the Scalliwag threads...



It looks like he bitch slapped you to the curb.

It looks like that only because I didn't want to pursue the matter any further, I assure you, dumba$$.



I am sure you will meet the right guy some day.

I'm sure you're barking up the wrong tree looking for a .....well, I'll just keep walking at this point...

87rx7girl

ROFL this is to funny...... i love ya Kevin! <3

13b4me

Agreed Jess. ^

I just don't understand how someone can pay so little and expect so much!

Hey Kevin I would like to buy a used S4 N/A door moulding from you. You mind throwing a BJ in there and maybe a trip to Disneyland?

ryderX

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can i go with you^^^??

rx7roller02

All I know is that Kevin's a really good guy....he's the kind of guy that goes out ona Friday night, gets two BJ's and brings ya back one....

K.ronic

LOLZ!

-xlr8planet-

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First, a newbie whinning about Rx7Doctor.... yes the Doc


now this.... you gotta be kidding me.




This forum is getting dumb... more and more each day

I think I will go back to my Honda Civic, at least with those guys you know what kind of ******** you are dealing with

God save the first gen section

Kory_yahi

What about the areas where there's no oil connections? Oil drips, no kidding. Why all the way around the oil pan, the gasket is loaded with oil?[/QUOTE]All this whining and complaining and not one picture to back up his more then likely over exaggeration.

This guy sounds like a dufis that bought my 88gxl last year. Got a clean as hell, very reliable fixed up car that had just about all the major before and after sale work done to it. The whole time he is looking at it and even after he buys it all I hear is stupid nit-picking "oh the brake fluid looks dirty!" "This car is not as clean as what you are selling it for" (3,200 for a rust free, excellent paint, excellent interior, every leakable external seal and gasket replaced plus clutch and tranny work, and relatively low milage motor & chassis (124k)).

Even after he buys it I hear about through e-mails and actually a phone call "oh I am fixing some stuff that was neglected" which in reality was dumb-*** non important crap.

And the whole time he talked about how "his was so much nicer and cleaner" then mine... So why did you buy mine douche bag? His would to have been close to show room condition and original for that to be true. GOD DAMN DUMBASS RX-7 PEOPLE!

MidnightOwl

$2600 is a felony. You stole that. I've spent way more than that in my swap, and Kevin did the work on the rebuild. It didn't come back to me looking like a 2007 year model motor, it looked like a freshly rebuilt 20 year old motor. I was 100% satisfied with the work that Kevin did on my motor, and would do business with him again. As a matter of fact, I WILL do business with him again. Hopefully it won't be that soon, but I can get a little happy on the throttle. Oh, and my manifold is cracked too, whammy.

stylEmon

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I often wonder why these major shops like RR are messing with these kind of 'ecomony builds'.

I am by no means trying to bash kevin, I dont even know him.

He obviously has a well respected business, and enough work. But like he said. These enigines are a minimum or 15 years old. These parts only get worse. its harder and harder to find rx-7s that are actually running well. With that being said, maybe THIS is the reason why there are more and more of these types of rx-7 owners. It's not that we are all getting stupid and picky, (maybe we are) but it's that it's getting harder to get your moneys worth when buying a rotary.

I bought my first 7 in 99. I paid 2400 and it was the CLEANEST rx i've seen in a while (especially for that price). All stock and ran GREAT for the 3 years I owned it.

Bought my second one in 06. paid 4500 for it and... well you may have seen my thread...
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...8&page=1&pp=15

I feel bad for both parties in this situation.

The buyer was expecting more from a well respected builder (2600 is a little bit of change/ he did get quite a bit for that price).

And the builder techinically delivered what was stated and then some. (all business owners know that these garuntees and contracts are made to protect THE SELLER).

Maybe these motors are getting too old for these types of re-builds.

I am not trying to offend anyone, just a little objective 3rd party opinion/observation on the matter.

ps: the buyer is complaining about some real nit-picky stuff. All the periferials arent the sellers problem, but maybe they should come UN-installed.