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Old 01-28-07, 12:13 PM
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Owes me a balance of $60 dollars for a clutch that I paid for and never received ! , I did get a refund minus $60 dollars , this was about six months ago ! The last pm I got from him said that he sent it , but I still havnt received anything !!! , be careful people !!! , Yet another COMMON , PETTY THIEF amongst us !!!!!
Old 01-28-07, 03:18 PM
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At least 2 years ago, when he posted under a different username, I purchased several engine parts from him as a bulk purchase, while he was still in the US (he is now in Japan to my knowledge). among these were several engine rotors, and at least 2 of them were bad (I do not recall the specifics any longer) because they had stuck side seals which could not be gotten out therefore making the rotors useless. To most people this should be fairly obvious, but I suppose it's possible that he truly did not know.

When I told him about this he promised to find me something I'd accept in trade, whether it be more rotors, other engine parts, or other JDM car parts that I may want.

Communication is always sketchy at best, sometimes taking several days or weeks to get a response, sometimes requiring more than one PM to get a response.

HE is always courteous in his replies and offers to find me something, saying something along the lines of "I will be tearing down 2 cores next week, and you can have some parts out of them if you want, I will let you know what all I find" or "I am going to the junkyard tomorrow, I will see what I can find for you". OF course, that's the last I hear of it from him, until a few months go by and I happen to remember the situation again and send him another PM.

There have been times he has offered me parts he has on hand to make up for it, like a short shifter, strut bar, etc. Stuff I generally didn't need or want, so I told him I didn't want it, to look for some engine parts or some specific car parts for one of my cars. Perhaps that was my mistake, and I should have simply taken what I could get and then try and recoup my losses by selling those parts to someone else even though I did not want them myself.

I've kept from posting about it publicly for so long in the hopes that I'd actually get something from him. After being strung along like a dog chasing the rabbit at the track for all this time, it's become clear that I have nothing more to lose, so here I am.
Old 01-28-07, 04:08 PM
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Yep , thats exactly what he does , in our last communication , he said that he had a genuine MAZDASPEED shifter **** that he was going to send me to square things off,couple days later he said it "fell apart" while he was cleaning it up ! , since then not a peep and I've sent him at least three more pm's.
Old 01-28-07, 07:37 PM
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Marcel and Rotary Resurrection are the only two fouled sales I have to date and my making amends for them has truly been weak.

I am not hiding from these problems and I really am looking for parts to make amends or other items or just money in my paypal. I am not objecting to this thread at all in fact I have been expecting it.

I really do not know of any other sales that I have made that have gone bad and welcome anyone else that has had a bad dealing with me to say so.

Marcel and Rotary Resurrection,
I will pm both of you and see where you want to go from here. I do not want to cut and run with your money and quit this screen name. I will make amends and when I do so (and not until then) I would just ask that you two post back in this thread clarifying that everything has been resolved.

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Old 02-14-07, 07:26 PM
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Well so far , Tom has made an attemp to settle things with me but has made a mess of it . He sent me an intenational money order that could be cashed ONLY IN THE US and he put the wrong address on it , needless to say its COMPLETELY USELESS ! I pointed this it out to him and this is how the conversation went ............

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02-07-07, 08:15 PM
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I expect you have recieved the money order by now but I just wanted to check with you to make sure.
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02-09-07, 07:05 AM
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I got the check yesterday .......... we have two problems !

1. I do not live in the US , I am from Trinidad W.I. ! there is a "This money order is payable only in the U.S.A. " advisory at the back of it , so I cannot cash it here .

2. The address you put on it is my US shipping address , my address is ;
Apt #1 ,
#45 washington street,
Marabella,
Trinidad W.I.
My banker said that they would have still been able to work with the wrong address , but with the first problem it isn't possible


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Ok well now this transaction that went bad from the first time you sent me a non Postal money order has cost me
90 dollars out of my own pocket.

$60 from when I took your Money Order for 500 US and cashed it to then make another one to send your money back to you all because You assured me that any Money Order would work for me in Japan even after I had specifically asked for a International Postal Money Order.

20 dollars this last time when I then went and got Money Order which happened to be a International Postal Money order which was being sent to a US address so who would even think that you would not be cashing it at a US post office.

Then 10 dollars to ship that money order to you so that you could get it ASAP.

Am I being unfair if I say this is getting rediculous and that my having spend 90 dollars out of my own pocket to make you happy even when the whole problem arose from your advising me that I could use any money order. My feeling is that you can find a way to cash that money order or you can just take the loss of 60 dollars and be glad you are not in my shoes and taking a loss of 90 dollars.

I am not trying to make a big mess out of this deal. I would like to get my name cleared on your good guy bad guy post but I can't affort to continue fighting this never ending battle. This can turn into a who said what and when battle trying to prove to everyone who is right and who is wrong or we can just cut our losses and call it even. I have not been aggressive towards you even from the beginning when things with the first money order deal went bad. I do not like to do business like that.

Please let me know if you are willing to post in that good guy bad guy thread that our deal has been settled. If you do not feel that is fair please explain to me what you think fair would be at this point.
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How exactly is it my fault ? I said it could be used but I dont live in Japan , you could have found out , so I guess that was both our fault , and remember you were to taking my m.o. with you back to California , where you would have cashed it and solved that problem.
The reason why you had to refund me is because there was no clutch available for you to sell , YOU advertised like it was yours when actually it wasn't , so having to refund it was your fault.
How could this thing be an INTERNATIONAL m.o. , when it is to be cashed in the US only , that makes no sense .
You ASSUMED that I live in the US , I did not tell you this , you could have just asked .
You decided to post it out with haste , I did not ask for this , I would have been comfortable knowing that it was on the way via the "regular" mail.
You are bitching about your money ? the length of time you have been oweing I should be asking for interest !


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Ok, I am done with this whole deal, I have done more than I would expect most people to do. If that is not good enough then you can bad mouth me all over the boards if that makes you satisfied. I have plenty of loyal customers who I have had multiple hastle free transactions with. I re-read my last message to you and I do have to say that I was wrong in saying it is your fault. I should not have made it seem as though I was blaming you for the situation.
I hope you can work things out with the money order.
You are welcome to post what you choose in the prior thread.

Tom


What do you guys think of this fellow ? after almost a whole year , this is the best he can do ?
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I think he did make a pretty honest effort there by sending money to you. Perhaps it was just a mistake that the wrong address was used, and the MO was payable to the US only. Not a lot of people deal with int'l money transfers, to know about that sort of thing. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt there...send it back to him, and let him convert it into something that is useable to you. Or just have him paypal the money to you.

He contacted me a couple of days after my earlier post and offered me a couple of parts I had no use for...I suggested a few things that he might keep an eye out for that I could actually use, but havent heard back since.
Old 02-15-07, 06:28 AM
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Did you read his last two replys ? , he is suggesting I forget it and take the loss or some how get the cjeck cashed ! he basicaly said he doesn't care what happens , he's not going to fix this !
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Any update? I have not heard a peep since, no surprise to me.
Old 03-19-07, 05:19 AM
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No nothing from him .......sems Tom is just another COMMON THIEF !!!! beware guys !!!!
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havent heard anything for a while now...
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Marcel`s issue has been resolved although there was an issue with it. I sent him an International Postal money order made out in US dollars to his US addressed P.O.Box and then he came back to complain to me in a PM saying he could not cash the check because he does not live in the US!!! At that point I had lost about 70 dollars dealing with him and his lack of providing information to me. I did lag on replying to his pm`s after he sent me a non postal money order which he assured me would be cashable here in japan so that i could bring his part back to the states with me and ship to him from there. Well his money order was not able to be cashed at the post office which is why I had asked for a international postal money order. It was going to take my bank 1 month to process the money order and so that did not leave enough time to get the money and the part to bring back to the states. Instead I brought his money order back and asked him what he wanted me to do with it. i told him i could tear it up and toss it out, send it back to him, or cash it and then make a money order for him and send it back. Well he agreed to the last option so I cashed it and made another money order. The money order cost 60 dollars to make. I deducted that from the original money he had sent me and sent him what was left (minus 60 dollars for the MO). He then complained for about a year about me not paying him back in full. I agreed to reimburse him for the 60 dollars at my pace which turned out to be entirely to slow and i completely agree with his gripe about that. Anyhow to sum things up he has his money back and I think it is obvious that he and I will not be doing any more transactions with one another.
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RotaryResurrection has been pm`d and I am awaiting reply. I hope to resolve my last issue on the forum very soon.

I have been selling parts on this forum for a little over 5 years using the name circuit theory and fc3stom (that was my first screen name on here).
To my knowledge these are the only two sales gone wrong in those five years. I have not had any bad experiences with buying parts either over the years.

Thanks to all those who have purchased from me.

Tom
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I've dealt with Tom before and he's a stand up guy. He owed me $25 for a diff and i just asked and he paid it back no problem. I've also bought several items from him before with no hassle
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He's contacted me and we're working to resolve the issue.
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Marcel`s issue has been resolved although there was an issue with it. I sent him an International Postal money order made out in US dollars to his US addressed P.O.Box and then he came back to complain to me in a PM saying he could not cash the check because he does not live in the US!!! At that point I had lost about 70 dollars dealing with him and his lack of providing information to me. I did lag on replying to his pm`s after he sent me a non postal money order which he assured me would be cashable here in japan so that i could bring his part back to the states with me and ship to him from there. Well his money order was not able to be cashed at the post office which is why I had asked for a international postal money order. It was going to take my bank 1 month to process the money order and so that did not leave enough time to get the money and the part to bring back to the states. Instead I brought his money order back and asked him what he wanted me to do with it. i told him i could tear it up and toss it out, send it back to him, or cash it and then make a money order for him and send it back. Well he agreed to the last option so I cashed it and made another money order. The money order cost 60 dollars to make. I deducted that from the original money he had sent me and sent him what was left (minus 60 dollars for the MO). He then complained for about a year about me not paying him back in full. I agreed to reimburse him for the 60 dollars at my pace which turned out to be entirely to slow and i completely agree with his gripe about that. Anyhow to sum things up he has his money back and I think it is obvious that he and I will not be doing any more transactions with one another.

Tom ,in your feeble attempt to "resolve " this YOU made the mistake ! You at no time asked me for my address ! I gave you a shipping address to send the clutch too , you who is obviously trying to make a living off this , is supposed to have enough experience to know to ask if ones shipping address is the same as their home address !!! I do not see how I did not give you enough information ! you never asked for any !
As for my money order , they've been cashed in New Zealand , Australia , England and the States , how was I to know that it wouldn't be cashed in Japan ? But the real CRUX of the matter isn't the fact that my check couldn't be cashed , I would have gladly waited a month , especially if there was no feasable alternative ! The problem is that YOU ARE A LIAR as well as A THIEF !!!!!!!!!
You could not deliver the clutch to me because YOU DID NOT HAVE ONE TO SELL !!!! , you advertised two clutches on the forum , complete with pictures and all , automatically some one would assume they are yours and you are selling them , when in fact THEY BELONGED TO A JAPANESE PARTS SHOP !!!!!!! , try to remember , you pm'd me saying that you received the money order too late , because the shop is now closed for the Christmas Holidays ! If the clutch was yours , U would have just held on to the check until it clered , and then you would have shipped it out ! You said that you would get it for me when the shop reopened using your money , and you would have kept the funds from the check when it clared ,... do you remember ????
I waited for more than a month and still got nothing from you , so naturally I opted for a reimbersement ...... after taking all that **** from you , I am supposed to pay for it too right ! you are areal piece of work man ! You know what keep the ****** $60 dollars ,it's not going to make a difference to me financially , just remember , what goes around comes around , you THIEVING , LYING ***** !!!!!!!
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Keep the 60 dollars??? I sent it to you and am out that money so it is in your hands to cash it or use the check as a book mark for all I care. I would say about 80% of the parts I sell are not my parts. I source them, clean them, photo them and then post them. The whole ordeal with your clutch was a huge "F" up right from the start. I dont understand where you get off calling me a liar and a thief??? If I was such a bad guy dont you think it would have been much more profitable for me to just take all your money and not go through the hassle of sending it back to you? As well as then sending you another payment?

I do not sell parts with the intention of lying and thieving, I sell parts that I come across and think I can sell.

I can and will continue to sell parts and have satisfied customers, I am sorry that our venture went so horribly wrong.

So I guess I have less than a 1% unsatisfied customer rate at the moment.

So anyone that is considering buying from me please be aware that there is a 99% chance that you will be completely satisfied and a 1% chance that you will be unsatisfied and I will refund your money.

Marcel I do apologize for my poor customer service and my horribly late final payment. Good luck with your future purchases.

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Old 06-10-07, 08:32 PM
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You sen me a USELESS check ! , U are out $60 dollars and I am out $60 dollars , so I guess the because of your F#@!K UP the bank is the one who has the money in the end , thanks alot !!! , I guess common sense just isnt very common !!!
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As an update for my part, Tom contacted me and we finally were able to work out a resolution. He was very generous with his offer to take care of the earlier mistake and I received my replacement parts today in excellent condition.

Thanks for coming back *years later* and making things right after what was probably just a mistake to begin with.
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This is why I rarely deal with international sellers, when something goes wrong.... it's a hell of a game to resolve.

Glad you got what was owed.
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Thanks for the update Kevin.

Maczpayne: This whole issue happened before I was international but there is a lot of truth to what you said.

Rotary Resurrection and Marcel are the only two sales gone wrong I have had up to now and I have learned a lot from dealing with both situations. Not only is it tough for the buyers to deal with international sales sometimes but it is the same from the international sellers position as well.

I will continue to sell parts from time to time, however I know how to deal with it much more proficiently now.

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