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sen2two 03-15-09 04:16 AM

wow...just seen this for the first time. really wish i seen this prior.

i have a S5 front clip from them i ordered. havnt started it yet. but i did the complete RHD swap on the car. so far everything is ok. but i havnt compression tested it yet. but i removed the BAC from the manifold and there was this wierd sludge in it. almost like silicone. got me worried about having really dirty cooling system. i already dropped the motor it. maybe i should pull it to check everything...

any tips on cleaning the coolant system without opening the motor?

fucking shit...

jdjl1987 03-25-09 11:15 PM

Basically, never have anything shipped ever. Go there, and when you do, run a compression test and check turbo play on the spot. That way you can be sure to get a quality product. Don't let them push you around either, it's your legal right to test the product and ensure it is running properly as they say it is, and you are allowed to on ANYTHING with a limited or no warranty.
I'm shopping for a 13b-rew to get at the end of the summer, and you can be sure I'll be down their throat with the business bureau on speed dial and a copy of buyer rights if they give me any sass. They also can't refuse to sell you the part because you want to test it ;)

Terrh 03-25-09 11:40 PM

just don't deal with tiger.

don't bother testing their junk, just BUY ELSEWHERE.

even if you do all the tests in the world and then have a problem down the road, you're still screwed.

mikeyjay 05-19-09 03:32 PM

Damn...

I was looking to pick up a front clip, called them today actually to ask about shipping.

Anyone know of a good place in southern Ontario to get a clip from?

I've got an NA auto at the moment and would like to swap to a 5 speed turbo, front clip seems the best bet.

Thanks,

Mike

pfsantos 06-15-09 08:46 AM

My buddy just bought a JDM FD from them. Called me up to tell me he bought a car. I asked where. I thought I had more time to research shit, but he bought sooner than I expected.

The car has some shipping damage on the roof (a few dents) and scuffs here and there. Bought it for around $7500. Needs painting. Only has 44,400km. Underneath is perfect.

The car pulls hard, and everything seems mechanically sound, as far as we can tell by driving, except for a rear wheel bearing. No blue smoke when driving hard, passed emmissions test like a brand new car. Changed the oil 2 times in one week, and new plugs just before the emmissions test.

He's only had the car for a week, but things look good so far. I'm hoping he's one of the lucky ones.

Either way I'll keep the list updated.

midnightbluefc 07-24-09 01:28 AM

so where would b the best place to get one? longblock s4 TII?
i have an 88 gxl

Gringo Grande 07-24-09 06:43 PM

I'd check with Japan2LA on the forums. He has a very, very good rep and prices.

midnightbluefc 07-25-09 04:40 AM

japan2la?

David Hayes 07-25-09 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by midnightbluefc (Post 9381156)
japan2la?

Yes, that is his name here on the forum. Good guy and he can hook you up with most any engine related component.

eraser13bt 07-31-09 06:52 PM

I miss Jarco Inc. I bought a complete S5 swap with a ton of goodies from them and got a warranty as well. ( I have also bought multiple engines from JARCO). I have never heard a single good thing about Tiger.

GoodfellaFD3S 07-07-10 08:14 PM

bump :)

rotaryinspired 07-07-10 08:50 PM

Well, I have a motor coming from them. We'll see what happens. I am tearing it down to rebuild anyway. Fun times. Oh well.

Sabora 05-13-11 08:46 AM

A lot of shops order motors from them.....unfortunatly the jdm shop I asked to order the 20b through got it from tiger it has good compression let's just hope the e-shaft isn't sagging or any other random problem I specifically told the shop to order from jdmracing.com and not tiger but wtf ever ill see if it worked out today

RotaryEvolution 05-13-11 05:32 PM

honestly surprised this place hasn't been sued into oblivion yet.. regardless of what they write on a piece of paper, luckily what is written does not always follow the law and/or stand up in court.

Rickyyp 06-04-11 07:48 AM

tiger japanese is horrible check out my fresh motor they sold me https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/jdm-tigerjapanese-motor-948289/

rottenknarf 06-04-11 08:02 AM

lol massive thread bump,

no but seriously, i almost ordered my KLZE from them, i had asked to please provide with pics of the cams stamped KL-31, and the flat piston heads, along with the Straight neck mani; they immediately refused, even after i told them that i was 5 secs away from buying it.

want3d 11-02-11 07:37 PM

I have been to tiger japan and was looking for a 13b its amazing how well they put a website together and looks so legit.I went to them and the they priced me 1200 and told me to go to the shipping area to take a look at the engine.When i got there 2 guys were working there and all off the engine had no compression at all they had engine on top of engine pilled and i literally had to climb onto engines and check them out. Bottom line place is shit

decateur 12-07-11 12:49 PM

Has anyone bought from www.royaljapanesemotors.com I'm about to order a FD clip from them they have been very polite and have provided extra pics also.

Japan2LA 12-07-11 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by decateur (Post 10891084)
Has anyone bought from www.royaljapanesemotors.com I'm about to order a FD clip from them they have been very polite and have provided extra pics also.

pmed

I have frontclip in inventory now..

flaco 12-16-11 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by p4nc7 (Post 8223488)
My dad has been there once, and he won't go back. From what he told me, they put oil into the engine before giving it a compression test. He had asked for an engine to be compression tested as we were looking at starting a project. They told him the oil was for "lubrication".

Once he told them he wouldn't buy anything unless they could show him an engine that was tested WITHOUT pouring oil into the combustion chamber. They told him no, and pretty much cussed him out.

To their credit, my dad did tell me the manager was polite when he first went in there. lol.

lol yeah next time i do a compression test on my motor im gonna drain the oil first lol

:lol::lol:

Gringo Grande 12-17-11 10:32 PM

My guess is that the gentleman you are making fun of was not talking about oil as in 20-50 but that they added (insert fluid of choice) to the spark plug holes to try and make sure the engine would spin freely by hand aka break up carbon/unstick seals.

Granted I wouldn't buy a motor without a proper compression test but if someone wants to use a socket to spin the motor and listen for equal "puffs" then more power to them. =)

Rx7aholic 01-03-12 08:58 PM

How about these guys Nagano Japanese? Anyone has dealt with them? If so are they upfront honest?
Khris

GoodfellaFD3S 01-03-12 09:15 PM

Khris, why are you looking at picking up JDM crapshoot junk motors? Your FD was running great the other day :lol:

RX7(613) 01-04-12 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Rx7aholic (Post 10922060)
How about these guys Nagano Japanese? Anyone has dealt with them? If so are they upfront honest?
Khris

Nagano Japanese in much better than tiger, I was there in december with a buddy picking up a black top sr,

All the shops sell the rotary motors without warranty now, but you are allowed to compression test them. I believe the compression test their motors and put up a video of that specific engine.

another great engine seller in http://www.jdm-online.com/ , but they had no 13bs in stock when i saw there.

and http://www.enginelandinc.com (


There is about 20-25 JDM engine importers on the montreal island so there is alot of variety, and its not like one is always better than the other, but

engineland and jdm online "usually" pick great motors. Nagano also good as they have 3 or 4 sister shops.

Rx7aholic 01-04-12 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 10922089)
Khris, why are you looking at picking up JDM crapshoot junk motors? Your FD was running great the other day :lol:

Well after u told me a story about a brand new engine that has 1,000 miles pop. got me wondering so I deceide to pickup a block and gonna rebuild from ground up.
Khris

GoodfellaFD3S 01-05-12 08:37 AM

That engine was a reman'ed engine bought from Mazda years ago, not a JDM block.

Kinda like saying, damn that Lexus LFA sure looked nice in FnF5, I think I'll go test drive the new 2012 Camry :lol:

thejoe 02-05-12 05:11 PM

just thought i would chime in on tiger direct. i live almost down the street from them and i have been there a few times to look at engines, and have never bought one.

one day i went in there just to see what they had in the way of turbos. i start talking to a guy and he tells me where they keep the seperate turbos and to just go take a look. i come back with 2 off of a skyline asking how much he wanted for them. one ill admit spun freely and had very little shaft play, while the other one was seized, and i could see the rust on the inside.

so i try to get a deal on the 2 of them using the seized one for spare parts. i tell the guy this one is seized and what is the best price you can give me? and he says $2000 for the SEIZED one and another $2000 for the other, he said it is not seized at all, you just pour some diesel gas in it and after a couple of days it will spin freely, thats what he did to the other one.

then he goes on to tell me what what he does for most of the 13bt's i was looking at............

after that day i will never buy anything off of them expecting to put it right in. if you buy anything expect a full rebuild, does not matter what you buy off of them.

and as someone said before, i saw it as well. they were power washing the engines then wrapping them up as they were still wet and sending them out.

RotaryEvolution 02-06-12 03:24 PM

i actually recommend you locals who bought shit from them file suits against them. the place really should just be shut down.

i've gotten better deals on blown used turbo engines for $200 than the $1500 example i was shipped. bout the only thing that was worthwhile out of that engine was the rotor housings, the rotors took over a full day to scrub down and were still marginally usable with rust pitting. so out of a core engine he got 2 decent rotor housings, 2 rotors he had to pay additional to clean, junk irons that i had to replace, an unusable intercooler, junk power steering and smog pump, chopped wiring harness, stuck injectors that needed to be serviced, blown turbo, etc, etc, etc. a few hundred worth of used parts. only bonus he got was a rear auto counterweight and light steel flywheel that needed to be resurfaced.

aside from that it looked like the engine was drug around by a chain behind a car then soaked and wrapped wet and full of water for many months to rot away. these guys are complete idiots, i suppose that have no clue that water causes rust? bunch of dumbshits they are.

GoodfellaFD3S 02-06-12 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by thejoe (Post 10967118)
and as someone said before, i saw it as well. they were power washing the engines then wrapping them up as they were still wet and sending them out.

The level of stupidity here is just dumbfounding.

silverfdturbo6port 02-06-12 05:51 PM

just to throw in my experiences.
A customer bought a rhd fd from me that needed a motor. He insisted that he found a good deal on a motor. So he had the motor delivered to my place. The engine was a series 8 13b-rew from tiger japanese. It was very well wrapped and tied to the pallet. I tore the pallet down to inspect the motor he bought and everything looked great. Looked like it had low miles with no corosion of anything. The turbos seemed good but when i went to turn over the engine it was dead with no compression. I called my customer and told him that it had no compression and he called tiger and they told him to throw atf in and let it sit and it will build full compression and run fine. So not only did they send a shitty block but they made me look like I was a fool and told the customer that it was fine like I didnt know what I was talking about.
You would think that BBB claims would add up and shit the place down.

sctRota 02-06-12 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by Karack (Post 10968461)
i actually recommend you locals who bought shit from them file suits against them. the place really should just be shut down.

i've gotten better deals on blown used turbo engines for $200 than the $1500 example i was shipped. bout the only thing that was worthwhile out of that engine was the rotor housings, the rotors took over a full day to scrub down and were still marginally usable with rust pitting. so out of a core engine he got 2 decent rotor housings, 2 rotors he had to pay additional to clean, junk irons that i had to replace, an unusable intercooler, junk power steering and smog pump, chopped wiring harness, stuck injectors that needed to be serviced, blown turbo, etc, etc, etc. a few hundred worth of used parts. only bonus he got was a rear auto counterweight and light steel flywheel that needed to be resurfaced.

aside from that it looked like the engine was drug around by a chain behind a car then soaked and wrapped wet and full of water for many months to rot away. these guys are complete idiots, i suppose that have no clue that water causes rust? bunch of dumbshits they are.

I agree with you entirely as I have dealt with Tiger Japanese before. A friend of mine ended getting a motor with a blown head gasket:scratch: Seeing that I had warned him before clearly made no difference as some people feel like to take the chance, and that is why they are still in business to this very day. My friend has sued them, and got a few K's for re-compensation. Just like what a mod said above, GO IN PERSON. And yet after someone reads this, they would go and order a S5 block only to get a S4 or a seized block. The point is, if you have little or no experience at all whatsoever being from a swing n miss place, GET SOMEONE WHO CAN. Simple right:scratch:

thejoe 02-07-12 10:19 AM

i would personnaly not buy anything from them without going in person and looking at the item yourself. when i went there i saw a s4 turbo motor sitting on the ground, some how the flywheel nut was chipped so i asked if i could get a wrench to see it there was compression, the guy comes back with a wrench and OLD motor oil and says out this down the spark plug holes and it will work better. i told him i would try it without to see what happend and found both rotors had no compression.

so thinking i could use this to my advantage to get a better price i started talking to the guy and he still wants $1000 for it with no tranny or ecu or turbo. just the dead block.......

after i tell him i am not interested in it he tells me to go look "in that pile over there" to find one i like. and he was not kidding. all of the s4 and s5 motor are just what looks like thrown into a pile in a corner. they are not stacked like other places i have seen. it looks like the guy with the forklift just brought it over and just dumped it right there. and he still wanted $1500 for them.....

but i still cant get over the fact he was wrapping wet engines.

anees 02-22-12 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Karack (Post 10968461)
i actually recommend you locals who bought shit from them file suits against them. the place really should just be shut down.

i've gotten better deals on blown used turbo engines for $200 than the $1500 example i was shipped. bout the only thing that was worthwhile out of that engine was the rotor housings, the rotors took over a full day to scrub down and were still marginally usable with rust pitting. so out of a core engine he got 2 decent rotor housings, 2 rotors he had to pay additional to clean, junk irons that i had to replace, an unusable intercooler, junk power steering and smog pump, chopped wiring harness, stuck injectors that needed to be serviced, blown turbo, etc, etc, etc. a few hundred worth of used parts. only bonus he got was a rear auto counterweight and light steel flywheel that needed to be resurfaced.

aside from that it looked like the engine was drug around by a chain behind a car then soaked and wrapped wet and full of water for many months to rot away. these guys are complete idiots, i suppose that have no clue that water causes rust? bunch of dumbshits they are.

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but yeah u r rite we should do sumthing atleasssssttt

ourxseven 03-10-12 09:16 AM

speak for yourself

DRPUCH59 03-15-12 01:30 PM

Do not buy from them went there a couple years back to the acutal warehouse, you dont even wanna know how that place is set up or what they do to thier parts and motors. complete hacks ! ill try and dig up some pics i have. Another is JSA motors do not buy from them !

galvatron10000 03-15-12 02:51 PM

sucks for anybody who get screw by them, but to be honest, you have to go in person and make a compression test on them, all the jdm shops in Canada are hit and miss. if you don't know someone who live there and can go for you, forget about it or go for a trip up north. if you buy it online they gonna ship the first one the shelf and most likely to be shitty and even if you get a good compression engine, i would do a rebuild before putting it on the road, those's engine sat for a minimum of 15 year in a junkyard/warehouse in Nippon land and all the crap it probably got in the ship. when i blew my 1st engine, the one who came with the jdm was because of stupidity and boost spike, but lots of people blew there coolant seal after a short period of time and when i open the engine they were hard and brittle and i was chipping it out insted of peeling it lol. anyway go in person dont by online

RotaryEvolution 03-15-12 03:16 PM

i don't even know why they bother to clean the motors in the first place.

i would rather clean the motor myself and have the possibility of it being good versus a very good possibility of it being bad but semi clean.

misterstyx69 04-03-12 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by Karack (Post 11018317)
i don't even know why they bother to clean the motors in the first place.

i would rather clean the motor myself and have the possibility of it being good versus a very good possibility of it being bad but semi clean.

Because they figure if they Polish a Turd it won't look like Shit any more........but in this case it is Still a Turd!

Bryan@BNR 08-27-12 09:38 PM

I have had a bad experience with Tiger Japanese. I have been a returning customer of theirs for years. I have bought many engines and transmissions from them. But my last order I got on their web site on the rotary section and read that "all our engines are compression tested for quality", it made me feel like they were going to send me some good parts. I ordered 5 complete engines because of that. When I got the 5 engines, 3 of them were blown. 1 of them had all blown apex seals. So I disassembled all the engines and displayed pictures to their claims department. Called them, emailed them, no answer. So I called and got ahold of their manager. I told him that the site specifically said that all the engines were tested for compression before shipment. The next day, that statement was gone from the web site and he told me there was no warranty on rotary engines! Do not do business with this company. I paid hard earned money for all blown parts.

If they would have worked with me on some refund, I would have been a returning customer.

Bryan Nickell
BNR Supercars LLC

RotaryEvolution 09-18-12 07:35 PM

because they're crooks, unfortunately.

hope their warehouse burns to the ground.

raceratheart15 10-03-12 05:23 PM

Since we are all sharing stories might as well share mine. My 1992 FD was originally purchased from them..Windshield corners full of bondo, hatch as well motor blew after 8k if that wasnt bad enough the previous owner bought a used motor and transmission from them and it blew after 10 k he was probably one of the luckier ones. now i got it and gotta solve all the problems.

EZEdChicago 04-18-13 05:30 PM

Thanks for warning.

Terrh 01-28-14 12:34 PM

Blows my mind that this place is still in business.

7speed 02-06-14 12:05 AM

I have friends that have all had great motors from them surprisingly. Whenever I bash Tiger they just show compression numbers and dyno sheets. I guess their selection for rotaries and the way they store them is just poor. As for the boingers.. not so bad I guess. Just figured I'd give my second hand experience. The motors referenced is a 2J that made 660 @ 23psi, a RB25 / 490 @ 22psi and another 25 that made 390 @ 15psi. Anyways, just figured I'd post this. Personally I'd never get a motor from there but if you're in the market for a cheap 2J..


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