Rotary-Works products... DON'T DO IT!
08-08-11, 01:56 PM
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i have personally seen a few instances where the rotary-works product was up to spec, and worked well, but i have been seeing too many instances where this just is not the case. i really wish rotary-works could come behind itself, really clean up his act, and get some badass products out there, until then, i just suggest that everyone avoid them until then, maybe rw will fold, maybe hell fix everything, who knows
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08-08-11, 03:43 PM
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I recently bought an intercooler from RW and the top right surface of the core was a bit damaged and a piece of the fin was missing.It looks Kinda like a kid missing a tooth at the front of their mouth......when i contacted them about it , the response was that its only $200 dollars i paid for it, my reply was the picture i saw on their website is what i paid for not what i got......in the long run he wanted to credit me $10.........$10.........i'm located in the caribbean so its costing me more to ship it back , i'm stuck with this crap, my lost !!!!!!
08-09-11, 01:49 AM
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lets also not forget that rene's reputation proceeds all this recent outsourcing stuff being done by the persons responsible for reproducing his parts...puttinf one person on the spot for the fault of anothers, especially a person with the reputation that rene has among the rotary community is JUST WRONG. it would be like putting Carroll Shelby on blast because some tool in one of his mustangs cut you off on the freeway and bunched your panties.
Lets also n ot forget that posting someone BY NAME on a forum in a degrading manner like this can be considered legal slander...
Lets also n ot forget that posting someone BY NAME on a forum in a degrading manner like this can be considered legal slander...
Rene is the one that runs shop, and its him that advertises his products, his services, and has a running advertisement on the main page about what he sells. Who else are we supposed to point out? His wife and kids?
Run your mouth when the time is correct. He runs right along with Rotary Shack and all there B.S.
08-09-11, 10:16 AM
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I completely agree that you get what you pay for, but Rene some seriously low quality work. The throttle bodies are about the only things that are half way decent.
His "fab work" on the other hand if it can even be called that is a whole other story. Does the stuff he builds work, sure. But it is definitely not nice work. Anyone who says otherwise is either blind or has no clue as to what good quality fab work looks like.
His "fab work" on the other hand if it can even be called that is a whole other story. Does the stuff he builds work, sure. But it is definitely not nice work. Anyone who says otherwise is either blind or has no clue as to what good quality fab work looks like.
08-09-11, 11:18 AM
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To sit there and say Rene does not do good work is like saying you can do better...its an insult to him, plain and simple.
I'm 99.9% sure that any shop on this forum has a few people that are willing to say at least one negative thing about them for one bad instance or for a miscommunication at some point.
Regardless of what each bad review has to say about him as an individual, its no surprise why he keeps getting top dollar paying customers on a regular basis. I've been to his shop hundreds of times, worked side by side on random projects, had the privilege of being part of the team he built the 3 rotor FD to for Formula Drift car for, and just seeing one badass project after another.
Do people seriously think that if he was customizing everyone's cars individually, the prices would still be as cheap as RW? c'mon....he does his own work for his shop, "RMS"...he does prototypes for RW and "someone else" is in charge of that production line for all RW products...he is just a representative for RW and this thread is mos tlikely being redirected to the proper personnel. I say lay off him directly and focus on the business argument with RW directly....
some of Rene's "shitty" work
I'm 99.9% sure that any shop on this forum has a few people that are willing to say at least one negative thing about them for one bad instance or for a miscommunication at some point.
Regardless of what each bad review has to say about him as an individual, its no surprise why he keeps getting top dollar paying customers on a regular basis. I've been to his shop hundreds of times, worked side by side on random projects, had the privilege of being part of the team he built the 3 rotor FD to for Formula Drift car for, and just seeing one badass project after another.
Do people seriously think that if he was customizing everyone's cars individually, the prices would still be as cheap as RW? c'mon....he does his own work for his shop, "RMS"...he does prototypes for RW and "someone else" is in charge of that production line for all RW products...he is just a representative for RW and this thread is mos tlikely being redirected to the proper personnel. I say lay off him directly and focus on the business argument with RW directly....
some of Rene's "shitty" work
08-09-11, 09:48 PM
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wow..i just read this whole thread and it sucks for a business to not take care of clients like that. i have the RW TB and Elbow and on the stock FD TB the elbow fit fit perfect. since i decided to use the RW TB on a cosmo manifold i did have to fab up a plate to cover the lower "smile" that the 13BRE manifolds have. i took some heavy gage sheet metal, cut the shape out and made a gasket for both sides. took all of 30 minutes to do. other than that it fit flawless and has no leak down of any sort.
I hope you get the issues sorted out. we dont have a lot of rotary specific shops around!
here's how my setup fit.
cosmo manifold
lower "smile" that got covered up.
autozone throttle cable bracket ,spectre brand, turned upside down to fit and works awesome!
all bolted in.
with the TB my car idles smooth, no leaks, and a noticeable upper rpm increase. i'm happy so far but will hold off and see what happens before i consider ordering again. hope all works out with the OP and RW.
I hope you get the issues sorted out. we dont have a lot of rotary specific shops around!
here's how my setup fit.
cosmo manifold
lower "smile" that got covered up.
autozone throttle cable bracket ,spectre brand, turned upside down to fit and works awesome!
all bolted in.
with the TB my car idles smooth, no leaks, and a noticeable upper rpm increase. i'm happy so far but will hold off and see what happens before i consider ordering again. hope all works out with the OP and RW.
08-10-11, 01:50 AM
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To sit there and say Rene does not do good work is like saying you can do better...its an insult to him, plain and simple.
I'm 99.9% sure that any shop on this forum has a few people that are willing to say at least one negative thing about them for one bad instance or for a miscommunication at some point.
Regardless of what each bad review has to say about him as an individual, its no surprise why he keeps getting top dollar paying customers on a regular basis. I've been to his shop hundreds of times, worked side by side on random projects, had the privilege of being part of the team he built the 3 rotor FD to for Formula Drift car for, and just seeing one badass project after another.
Do people seriously think that if he was customizing everyone's cars individually, the prices would still be as cheap as RW? c'mon....he does his own work for his shop, "RMS"...he does prototypes for RW and "someone else" is in charge of that production line for all RW products...he is just a representative for RW and this thread is mos tlikely being redirected to the proper personnel. I say lay off him directly and focus on the business argument with RW directly....
some of Rene's "shitty" work
I'm 99.9% sure that any shop on this forum has a few people that are willing to say at least one negative thing about them for one bad instance or for a miscommunication at some point.
Regardless of what each bad review has to say about him as an individual, its no surprise why he keeps getting top dollar paying customers on a regular basis. I've been to his shop hundreds of times, worked side by side on random projects, had the privilege of being part of the team he built the 3 rotor FD to for Formula Drift car for, and just seeing one badass project after another.
Do people seriously think that if he was customizing everyone's cars individually, the prices would still be as cheap as RW? c'mon....he does his own work for his shop, "RMS"...he does prototypes for RW and "someone else" is in charge of that production line for all RW products...he is just a representative for RW and this thread is mos tlikely being redirected to the proper personnel. I say lay off him directly and focus on the business argument with RW directly....
some of Rene's "shitty" work
His china parts are not holding up to there standards as they are advertised to fit on his website. What is starting to get to me is that neither him, or who ever is running the website, or the person that has a forum name here on the club has come out of the darkness to speak up and defend for themselves, there work, and why a majority of the parts bought from customers like myself are getting the raw end of the stick.
His personal work, and fab is good, but he is no god and there plenty of other that surpass his level of fabrication, and knowledge. I can't knock that, but what is becoming an issue are the parts being sold on his website. that is where the problem, and or issue lies brotha. If its not him that is selling those parts, then who is it? Because then his whole website is just mis-leading as hell, with all of his cars and what not being exploted all over the page.
But eddie you know you and I are coo
Just the fact that Rene or who ever at this point can't come out on to this thread and voice what the hell the issues are is acting cowardly and showing terrible business practice none the less.
I plan on being at seven stock, If I run into him or his booth, god knows the club, and the event is going to allow him one, then I will approach him, and bring these issues to his attention. But I'm not going to go out of my way to search high and low for him. But none the less, the issues still stands...Rene or the mods need to get on top of this issue and let him know that there a few un happy campers here with proof to show for it.
P.S
I still need a driver side window switch brotha, you got one...Oh I got my 9inch rear end installed last week, just ordered 31 spline axles and 6.50gears wheelie time baby.
08-10-11, 05:38 PM
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Its all love Teddy...I see the point being made here, just tough to see a guy thats pretty honest get slandered....I will agree that some of the RW stuff is questionable and dont agree that they should leave a phrase that states "no modification need" or "bolt on" on their site....
since we're on the subject....what do you guys think of this?
http://news.yahoo.com/chinas-first-a...000047792.html
since we're on the subject....what do you guys think of this?
http://news.yahoo.com/chinas-first-a...000047792.html
08-18-11, 04:44 AM
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hella random eddie...
but on a different note, rene knows whats going on and is dealing with these issues with parts indescrepanceies...or so i was told. but its a waiting game and remains to be seen...id still support the man even if the shop/ outsourced manufacturing company is causing issues because to put it simply, his work IS just that good.
but on a different note, rene knows whats going on and is dealing with these issues with parts indescrepanceies...or so i was told. but its a waiting game and remains to be seen...id still support the man even if the shop/ outsourced manufacturing company is causing issues because to put it simply, his work IS just that good.
08-20-11, 11:55 AM
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So, I received my FB radiator yesterday and was a little surprised that the box said "RX-2" on it. The radiator it self seemed to be different dimentions than what I was used to, so I went and measured everything before pulling.
There is no way that radiator would fit in my car without major modification as I would have to drill mounting holes to lign up, trim the radiator, and then come up with some sort of block plate as the radiator is too short.
Bottom line is either they sent me the wrong one or I am expected to modify the radiator and my car to make it fit. At that price? Its going back.
There is no way that radiator would fit in my car without major modification as I would have to drill mounting holes to lign up, trim the radiator, and then come up with some sort of block plate as the radiator is too short.
Bottom line is either they sent me the wrong one or I am expected to modify the radiator and my car to make it fit. At that price? Its going back.
08-20-11, 04:13 PM
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So, I received my FB radiator yesterday and was a little surprised that the box said "RX-2" on it. The radiator it self seemed to be different dimentions than what I was used to, so I went and measured everything before pulling.
There is no way that radiator would fit in my car without major modification as I would have to drill mounting holes to lign up, trim the radiator, and then come up with some sort of block plate as the radiator is too short.
Bottom line is either they sent me the wrong one or I am expected to modify the radiator and my car to make it fit. At that price? Its going back.
There is no way that radiator would fit in my car without major modification as I would have to drill mounting holes to lign up, trim the radiator, and then come up with some sort of block plate as the radiator is too short.
Bottom line is either they sent me the wrong one or I am expected to modify the radiator and my car to make it fit. At that price? Its going back.
08-21-11, 05:45 PM
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hella random eddie...
but on a different note, Rene knows whats going on and is dealing with these issues with parts indescrepanceies...or so i was told. but its a waiting game and remains to be seen...id still support the man even if the shop/ outsourced manufacturing company is causing issues because to put it simply, his work IS just that good.
but on a different note, Rene knows whats going on and is dealing with these issues with parts indescrepanceies...or so i was told. but its a waiting game and remains to be seen...id still support the man even if the shop/ outsourced manufacturing company is causing issues because to put it simply, his work IS just that good.
But Rene needs to get up on here and let it be known "HIMSELF" that he is working on the issues, what he plans on doing in the mean while for customers like myself and now the person who just got an rx2 radiator instead of an FB radiator what he plans on doing about these rising issues...
Such bulls **** when it comes to randomized favoritism, about customers getting ripped off, and the fact that these vendors get away with it!!!
08-21-11, 05:46 PM
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So, I received my FB radiator yesterday and was a little surprised that the box said "RX-2" on it. The radiator it self seemed to be different dimensions than what I was used to, so I went and measured everything before pulling.
There is no way that radiator would fit in my car without major modification as I would have to drill mounting holes to line up, trim the radiator, and then come up with some sort of block plate as the radiator is too short.
Bottom line is either they sent me the wrong one or I am expected to modify the radiator and my car to make it fit. At that price? Its going back.
There is no way that radiator would fit in my car without major modification as I would have to drill mounting holes to line up, trim the radiator, and then come up with some sort of block plate as the radiator is too short.
Bottom line is either they sent me the wrong one or I am expected to modify the radiator and my car to make it fit. At that price? Its going back.
sorry to hear it didn't work out.
08-29-11, 03:32 PM
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There was no bung on top for the low coolant buzzer, the radiator core was too short, and the endplates would have needed about 2" of aluminum trimmed off each end.
Instead of modifying it, I sent it back. Incredibly, Rotary Works refused to give me a refund or even return any of my calls. I now opened a dispute with Paypal. Step two is dispute it with Amex (which always sides with the card holder).
No I know where I will NEVER shop again.
09-15-11, 03:00 AM
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I am Rene as everyone is talking about me here ,here is a little back round about me. I operate my OWN! personal Shop RMS Rene MotorSports,i do custom one on one car builds for people and specialize in exhaust with combined 40 plus years of business.I have a very well reputation for my work and quality.This is my 9 to 5 JOB!!
I DO NOT OWN ROTARY-WORKS....i work with them on small projects and some design parts and some technical support.I do not have control over the manufacturing process or shipments or desputes,it is indpendently own by a large company that manufactures and produces parts for various other companies such as Goodspeed Etc.........they make tons of parts and yes they are made in china not perfect.
Some of the parts i design for them are the throttle body,elbows and some of the titanium parts that are made here in the U.S....the rest is made somewhere else on other plants overseas.They are all sold on their website NOT!owned by me.....they use my own cars as backround for display purpose because they sponsor me with their parts.
I apologize if anyone has had problems with the parts i have notified the company and they are working on perfecting the parts as time goes.
Hey teddy you have a big mouth.....you should keep your mouth shut before you even point fingers.........
I DO NOT OWN ROTARY-WORKS....i work with them on small projects and some design parts and some technical support.I do not have control over the manufacturing process or shipments or desputes,it is indpendently own by a large company that manufactures and produces parts for various other companies such as Goodspeed Etc.........they make tons of parts and yes they are made in china not perfect.
Some of the parts i design for them are the throttle body,elbows and some of the titanium parts that are made here in the U.S....the rest is made somewhere else on other plants overseas.They are all sold on their website NOT!owned by me.....they use my own cars as backround for display purpose because they sponsor me with their parts.
I apologize if anyone has had problems with the parts i have notified the company and they are working on perfecting the parts as time goes.
Hey teddy you have a big mouth.....you should keep your mouth shut before you even point fingers.........
09-17-11, 01:33 AM
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I am Rene as everyone is talking about me here ,here is a little back round about me. I operate my OWN! personal Shop RMS Rene MotorSports,i do custom one on one car builds for people and specialize in exhaust with combined 40 plus years of business.I have a very well reputation for my work and quality.This is my 9 to 5 JOB!!
I DO NOT OWN ROTARY-WORKS....i work with them on small projects and some design parts and some technical support.I do not have control over the manufacturing process or shipments or desputes,it is indpendently own by a large company that manufactures and produces parts for various other companies such as Goodspeed Etc.........they make tons of parts and yes they are made in china not perfect.
Some of the parts i design for them are the throttle body,elbows and some of the titanium parts that are made here in the U.S....the rest is made somewhere else on other plants overseas.They are all sold on their website NOT!owned by me.....they use my own cars as backround for display purpose because they sponsor me with their parts.
I apologize if anyone has had problems with the parts i have notified the company and they are working on perfecting the parts as time goes.
Hey teddy you have a big mouth.....you should keep your mouth shut before you even point fingers.........
I DO NOT OWN ROTARY-WORKS....i work with them on small projects and some design parts and some technical support.I do not have control over the manufacturing process or shipments or desputes,it is indpendently own by a large company that manufactures and produces parts for various other companies such as Goodspeed Etc.........they make tons of parts and yes they are made in china not perfect.
Some of the parts i design for them are the throttle body,elbows and some of the titanium parts that are made here in the U.S....the rest is made somewhere else on other plants overseas.They are all sold on their website NOT!owned by me.....they use my own cars as backround for display purpose because they sponsor me with their parts.
I apologize if anyone has had problems with the parts i have notified the company and they are working on perfecting the parts as time goes.
Hey teddy you have a big mouth.....you should keep your mouth shut before you even point fingers.........
Looking forward to get another 90mm TB later this year.
09-17-11, 02:31 AM
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I am Rene as everyone is talking about me here ,here is a little back round about me. I operate my OWN! personal Shop RMS Rene MotorSports,i do custom one on one car builds for people and specialize in exhaust with combined 40 plus years of business.I have a very well reputation for my work and quality.This is my 9 to 5 JOB!!
I DO NOT OWN ROTARY-WORKS....i work with them on small projects and some design parts and some technical support.I do not have control over the manufacturing process or shipments or desputes,it is indpendently own by a large company that manufactures and produces parts for various other companies such as Goodspeed Etc.........they make tons of parts and yes they are made in china not perfect.
Some of the parts i design for them are the throttle body,elbows and some of the titanium parts that are made here in the U.S....the rest is made somewhere else on other plants overseas.They are all sold on their website NOT!owned by me.....they use my own cars as backround for display purpose because they sponsor me with their parts.
I apologize if anyone has had problems with the parts i have notified the company and they are working on perfecting the parts as time goes.
Hey teddy you have a big mouth.....you should keep your mouth shut before you even point fingers.........
I DO NOT OWN ROTARY-WORKS....i work with them on small projects and some design parts and some technical support.I do not have control over the manufacturing process or shipments or desputes,it is indpendently own by a large company that manufactures and produces parts for various other companies such as Goodspeed Etc.........they make tons of parts and yes they are made in china not perfect.
Some of the parts i design for them are the throttle body,elbows and some of the titanium parts that are made here in the U.S....the rest is made somewhere else on other plants overseas.They are all sold on their website NOT!owned by me.....they use my own cars as backround for display purpose because they sponsor me with their parts.
I apologize if anyone has had problems with the parts i have notified the company and they are working on perfecting the parts as time goes.
Hey teddy you have a big mouth.....you should keep your mouth shut before you even point fingers.........
Oh im sorry did i let the cat of the bag yeah I'm known for that lol. I'm not sorry either If I'm a pissed of customer like many others who have bought from the "Rotary-works" web site with bull **** china made parts that dont ******* work. Out of respect I have been holding my tounge for a long time due to the fact that I was so un happy since I have bought some parts from that website, I even posted in the vendor section about how un happy I was with the parts, but still no response.
I will Point the finger all I want, somebody needs to step up to the plate. don't advertise what it is meant to be if not.
09-17-11, 04:55 AM
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I apologize if anyone has had problems with the parts i have notified the company and they are working on perfecting the parts as time goes.
Also, I may be wrong and I'll check on this in a moment, but when Rotary Works came out, wasn't it you on the site promoting the products in the vendor section?
As of this posting 9/17/11 I still see what in my opinion is a misleading statement regarding the Elbow on the Rotary Works website: "Fits 93-00 Mazda Rx7 twin turbo throttle body stock 4 bolts and fits Japanese COSMO13B & 20B 2 bolt design." After 6+ months.
Maybe all you do is design parts for Rotary-Works. Maybe you have an equity stake, maybe you don't. I don't know and I don't care. What should concern you either way is you are associated with a company that is producing products that are in my opinion misleading and best and don't fit at all at worst...and this isn't one product for one generation of RX7. This is the entire range.
Might want to consider having Rotary-Works make an official Statement disassociating yourself from them if you genuinely don't own any part of the company. Your one off work might be top notch but the products associated with you via their website in my opinion for the most part are terrible.
09-17-11, 04:58 AM
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So in the Vendor Classifieds, specifically this thread: https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-classifieds-276/new-rotary-parts-877729/ you are not acknowledging yourself as Rene and acting as if you own Rotary Works?
For those who have not seen or do not recall the thread, read it and reach your own conclusions.
For those who have not seen or do not recall the thread, read it and reach your own conclusions.
RE: Hey teddy you have a big mouth
09-18-11, 04:51 AM
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it should come as no surprise to anyone on this thread, either in opposition or defense that Godspeed also has had issues with parts in the past...wheres the trash thread there?
if this same manufacturing company is having these kinds of issues and they make parts for RW, Godspeed, and any other company they produce for, then why is Rene still being put on blast for only submitting designs and being kind enough to let them use his cars to make these parts?
point is, why not find this "Company _______________" that makes these parts and go after them if its that big of a deal?
its sad that someone like Rene is being dragged through the mud by unsatisfied customers of some half witted manufacturing company in China with poor service or quality control ethic.
whos next? HKS for pulling out of the states and refusing to do business here due to budget restrictions? YEAH go attack HKS for being unable to afford to continue business here because of the Chinese manufacturers! if i had to deal with ill fitting parts id just not buy them, spend MORE on parts from companies like HKS and get them back here in the states...
Apex Integration is still here. Greddy is still here. Rotary Performance, Racing Beat, Mazdatrix, and all the rest of the rotary specific parts distributors are still doing bookoux business here in the states yet you guys buy from Rotary Works then blast an honest business person...makes a whole lot of sense to bite one of the hands that feeds you in this extreme a manner, dissatisfied or not...
and everyone here was calling ME immature and stupid...i am smart enough to avoid these parts and instead choose to deal with their quality source...and reputable companies as well-maybe thats why i dont have any issues with fitment or quality...*rolls eyes*
i put ducks on blast for the poor and unprofessional ways that they quack. il surely post a thread about it and blame Walt Disney for making ducks seem animated and fun...
if this same manufacturing company is having these kinds of issues and they make parts for RW, Godspeed, and any other company they produce for, then why is Rene still being put on blast for only submitting designs and being kind enough to let them use his cars to make these parts?
point is, why not find this "Company _______________" that makes these parts and go after them if its that big of a deal?
its sad that someone like Rene is being dragged through the mud by unsatisfied customers of some half witted manufacturing company in China with poor service or quality control ethic.
whos next? HKS for pulling out of the states and refusing to do business here due to budget restrictions? YEAH go attack HKS for being unable to afford to continue business here because of the Chinese manufacturers! if i had to deal with ill fitting parts id just not buy them, spend MORE on parts from companies like HKS and get them back here in the states...
Apex Integration is still here. Greddy is still here. Rotary Performance, Racing Beat, Mazdatrix, and all the rest of the rotary specific parts distributors are still doing bookoux business here in the states yet you guys buy from Rotary Works then blast an honest business person...makes a whole lot of sense to bite one of the hands that feeds you in this extreme a manner, dissatisfied or not...
and everyone here was calling ME immature and stupid...i am smart enough to avoid these parts and instead choose to deal with their quality source...and reputable companies as well-maybe thats why i dont have any issues with fitment or quality...*rolls eyes*
i put ducks on blast for the poor and unprofessional ways that they quack. il surely post a thread about it and blame Walt Disney for making ducks seem animated and fun...