J.T.P. - Hotline Performance - FD RX7 Purchase - unresolved transaction from 2/22/14
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I guess i was mus-informed on the cali law
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You can look at this situation 2 different ways:
The law states you have to provide a bill of sale when the car is sold.... The law also states speed limit Is 55mph when towing a trailer....
Terms of the deal were satisfied at the time of sale by both parties because a deal was made and monetary compensation was exchanged for property.
If he wasn't satisfied by the deal, then money should not have been exchanged and the item should have never left the property.
Unless there's concrete written/verbal proof that part of the deal is that the seller is to provide a bill of sale at a later date, then it's up to the original seller whether or not he is going to provide documentation.
Same thing applies when it comes to the money aspect. It's going to be really hard to prove any money was exchanged unless a) a receipt for the transaction was provided or b) item was purchased using a check/money order or any form of payment that leaves a paper trail I.e. paypal/ western union.
The law states you have to provide a bill of sale when the car is sold.... The law also states speed limit Is 55mph when towing a trailer....
Terms of the deal were satisfied at the time of sale by both parties because a deal was made and monetary compensation was exchanged for property.
If he wasn't satisfied by the deal, then money should not have been exchanged and the item should have never left the property.
Unless there's concrete written/verbal proof that part of the deal is that the seller is to provide a bill of sale at a later date, then it's up to the original seller whether or not he is going to provide documentation.
Same thing applies when it comes to the money aspect. It's going to be really hard to prove any money was exchanged unless a) a receipt for the transaction was provided or b) item was purchased using a check/money order or any form of payment that leaves a paper trail I.e. paypal/ western union.
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You can look at this situation 2 different ways:
The law states you have to provide a bill of sale when the car is sold.... The law also states speed limit Is 55mph when towing a trailer....
Terms of the deal were satisfied at the time of sale by both parties because a deal was made and monetary compensation was exchanged for property.
If he wasn't satisfied by the deal, then money should not have been exchanged and the item should have never left the property.
Unless there's concrete written/verbal proof that part of the deal is that the seller is to provide a bill of sale at a later date, then it's up to the original seller whether or not he is going to provide documentation.
Same thing applies when it comes to the money aspect. It's going to be really hard to prove any money was exchanged unless a) a receipt for the transaction was provided or b) item was purchased using a check/money order or any form of payment that leaves a paper trail I.e. paypal/ western union.
The law states you have to provide a bill of sale when the car is sold.... The law also states speed limit Is 55mph when towing a trailer....
Terms of the deal were satisfied at the time of sale by both parties because a deal was made and monetary compensation was exchanged for property.
If he wasn't satisfied by the deal, then money should not have been exchanged and the item should have never left the property.
Unless there's concrete written/verbal proof that part of the deal is that the seller is to provide a bill of sale at a later date, then it's up to the original seller whether or not he is going to provide documentation.
Same thing applies when it comes to the money aspect. It's going to be really hard to prove any money was exchanged unless a) a receipt for the transaction was provided or b) item was purchased using a check/money order or any form of payment that leaves a paper trail I.e. paypal/ western union.
I first asked that everyone not involved in this issue was not to post in this thread. Then I put that instruction in bold text right above your post. And that was still not enough? Have a week off from the forum.
Oh, and your two ways to look at this? You can either whine and complain about roller....OR, you can pay attention to the staff instructions in the first place and have no issues. This is getting ridiculous, if you cant even read the thread you shouldnt be posting in it in the first place.
Enjoy your vacation
#29
I sent a $400 deposit via paypal to JTP to get the car. I have already gathered the payment transaction ID number.
I found the Vehicle. I am very busy with court, and other things my posting will be limited. It sold at auction, and the lien paperwork went through for the tow yard. They now own my FD. All of this could have been stopped if I would have had this BOS from JTP.
It's a horrible feeling to see your car after months of searching knowing someone else had their hands all over it and removed parts. although its not much different than how i purchased it from JTP, it's missing most everything that was of value.
PLEASE LEARN FROM THIS EXPERIENCE TO ANY NEW MEMBERS PURCHASING CARS! NO PAPERWORK? NO SALE. DO NOT GIVE UP MONEY!!!
I found the Vehicle. I am very busy with court, and other things my posting will be limited. It sold at auction, and the lien paperwork went through for the tow yard. They now own my FD. All of this could have been stopped if I would have had this BOS from JTP.
It's a horrible feeling to see your car after months of searching knowing someone else had their hands all over it and removed parts. although its not much different than how i purchased it from JTP, it's missing most everything that was of value.
PLEASE LEARN FROM THIS EXPERIENCE TO ANY NEW MEMBERS PURCHASING CARS! NO PAPERWORK? NO SALE. DO NOT GIVE UP MONEY!!!
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What the hell is wrong with you guys? Having trouble reading, steven?
NO ONE EXCEPT FOR STAFF AND THE BUYER AND SELLER are to be posting in this thread.
Enjoy your week off....we need resolution, not BS comments from the peanut gallery.
NO ONE EXCEPT FOR STAFF AND THE BUYER AND SELLER are to be posting in this thread.
Enjoy your week off....we need resolution, not BS comments from the peanut gallery.
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This is Becoming a Shitfest..so GUYS...Please.let the Two Individuals work the problem out!
This thread does not need commentary,or advice or critique.
It Needs resolution,so if you have not Participated in the deal then you have NO SAY in this Thread ...PERIOD.
Let them hash it out and get it done..OK?
Thanks.
STYX (MOD)
NOTE:ANYONE besides the Section MOD or the Two Individuals involved that decide to post will be met with a ..BYE-BYE...off to Googleland you go..NO exceptions.
This should not be Tested.
This thread does not need commentary,or advice or critique.
It Needs resolution,so if you have not Participated in the deal then you have NO SAY in this Thread ...PERIOD.
Let them hash it out and get it done..OK?
Thanks.
STYX (MOD)
NOTE:ANYONE besides the Section MOD or the Two Individuals involved that decide to post will be met with a ..BYE-BYE...off to Googleland you go..NO exceptions.
This should not be Tested.
#33
I still have not been contacted by JTP other than the phone call the day I posted this. where he still refused.
Ive been in and out all day. I've taken time off work to focus on this during business hours (court, etc all close at 5pm)
All PMs replied. Thanks
Ive been in and out all day. I've taken time off work to focus on this during business hours (court, etc all close at 5pm)
All PMs replied. Thanks
#35
End of the week is here. Still nothing. Ended up getting rid of all 4 fenders from my car.
I guess this just needs to be left as is, and show the true character of JTP. Everyone should really think twice before giving this dude money. It's all good when you're handing him a stack of $100 bills, but as soon as he gets it......Dude changes. I was stoked to get this FD with it having history from him, and using the car but that's not going to happen. I've located another and will be buying that after I pay off some debt this coming week. This was a somewhat expensive lesson to be learned.
Mods may as well lock this, he will not make things right, he's been contacted since July of 2014 for this and still has seen this, logged in, and refused to print a simple piece of paper..
Avoid Hotline Performance and JTP at all costs!!!!
I guess this just needs to be left as is, and show the true character of JTP. Everyone should really think twice before giving this dude money. It's all good when you're handing him a stack of $100 bills, but as soon as he gets it......Dude changes. I was stoked to get this FD with it having history from him, and using the car but that's not going to happen. I've located another and will be buying that after I pay off some debt this coming week. This was a somewhat expensive lesson to be learned.
Mods may as well lock this, he will not make things right, he's been contacted since July of 2014 for this and still has seen this, logged in, and refused to print a simple piece of paper..
Avoid Hotline Performance and JTP at all costs!!!!
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It's not like you haven't been the absolute worst person in the world to deal with. I live 1000 miles from you and have met random strangers with bad interactions with you. You've screwed many many people out of money. You do nothing to rectify the problems people have with you. On the forums you talk yourself up to be holier than thou, and then on Facebook/email/text you block anyone who could possibly expose you. Like previously said, karma sucks. Mods, I know you'll be mad I posted this, but take it for what it is that buckey is the shadiest of shady people to deal with.
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I dont care if I get banned for all this btw, I just hope that others can start seeing Buckey Laing for who he really is, a trashy scam artist. Just do some research before you really decide which side of the story you want to believe here...
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I will say it one more time. NOTHING in this thread is an attempt to defend bucky or anything he has done. You idiots bitch and moan, claiming that we mods should be holding bucky to a certain standard as a seller....then at the same time you want us to give this seller a pass for not doing what is right?? Sorry, it doesnt work that way.
You've screwed many many people out of money. You do nothing to rectify the problems people have with you. On the forums you talk yourself up to be holier than thou, and then on Facebook/email/text you block anyone who could possibly expose you. Like previously said, karma sucks.
Mods, I know you'll be mad I posted this, but take it for what it is that buckey is the shadiest of shady people to deal with.
I dont care if I get banned for all this btw,
I just hope that others can start seeing Buckey Laing for who he really is, a trashy scam artist. Just do some research before you really decide which side of the story you want to believe here...
1--we KNOW that this seller was required by his state's laws to provide certain documentation for this sale.
2--we KNOW from the seller himself that he did not do so.
What's left to debate? NOTHING. The law said he was supposed to, he did not. END OF DEBATE. This was NEVER about "what side to believe" because the seller himself admitted what he did, what he did not do, and even what he should do. He refuses because of pride, and no matter what you think of bucky or how many times bucky owed people money, that doesnt even matter because the law is clear on what this seller was supposed to do.
The mods here have gone above and beyond in trying to get money back for people when it comes to Bucky. We are not required to do anything when no aspect of the transaction had anything to do with this forum, and in both of these cases, it was done totally off the forum. But here we are, thanks to Alex Rodriguez the mod, one has already been paid back. Again, we do not need you to act like you need to tell us what to do here or how to do it. You clowns are not even smart enough to notice when the staff here HAS done something to address bucky....but you sure can complain about him, cant you??
We are done here. You are completely done here. Anyone else want to be an e-badass and try to tell us as though we dont already know about bucky?
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