jims6

Well, if you know what your are getting into and have back up cash if something goes wrong then it can be a good alternative. I have a mate who bought a Legacy RS cheap (15yr rule) and is a happy chappy with no problems. But you also hear of horror stories or people having to spend a lot more than they initially thought. Me? If i wanted a cheap FC i would look through the trading post, carsguide.net, carsales.com etc and find a really straight well looked after one with decent KM's. You could pick up a S4 for around 8K and budget + rebuild. At least you can go and have a look, take it for a drive, get it inspected etc.

jeffrored92

My FD was getting about 12L/100km driving on the highway @ 110km for an hour to my ex-gfs house in the country. Around town it's more like 16L/100km.

silkishuge

Jims6, I have never seen aS4 going for 8K here in Melbourne. At least 10K over here. But I was thinking more of a S5 anyway. Test drove a S4 today, the engine did not appear to run very well. Said I would think about it. I made another appointment to have a look at another FC, series 5 1989, goin for about 12,500. Too expensiive, but see if I can get a good deal. Problem is that it is an import and I hvae noo idea if the engine was rebuilt yet.

Thats not too bad. Heard from some owners that on a S4, 60L/300km combined driving. Driving in bilt up areas, II average about 14-17L/100km depending on how I drive. (engine is a 3L, flat 6)

DaiOni

'Its a myth that japanese people do less kilometres in their cars.' - no, that istatement is actually the myth. I worked part-time in a caryard here, and I can tell you that 90% of the cars on the lot at any time had kms that were far lower than what we would expect in australia. The reason? Australia is 21 times bigger than japan. It snows for four months (sports cars, in particular, aren't driven). Highly effective public transport.

my FD gets about 400-450km from a 70L tank

jims6

Silk: Sometimes you do see them cheap. As i said, my advice is work out the maximum you can afford and go out and get the best one you can find. If its a S5 then even better. I personally dont think buying an import is a bad thing, if its a complete and original car. If the motor lets go then you will have to get a rebild....it might only need new seals/springs/apex seals and tidy up. Part and parcel of rotary ownership

I get up to 500KM out of my.....76L tank

Seven Heaven

Jim!

Are you serious? 500km from your tank? I only get 400km out of my FD!!! and thats not trashing it all the time!Hmm why the huge difference? Mine is running rich though...I can smell the fumes when i start..and at the lights...PHEW! You know how i can not make it run rich without detonation..

Cheers

7Heaven

jims6

Yeah, up to 500KM driving up to esk and back to see the folks. So thats highway driving. I know my fuel light well. Normally i fill up with 73L. Cutting it fine.

But yeah, you saw my car the other day.....it runs very rich.....and im getting sick of it. Give the car some stick...and black smoke S8 doesn't do that at all.

In fact, after the car is fully warmed up and I floor it, i can hardly see cars behind me!!! Do it a couple more times, and it gets better. As if the computer is adjusting. No mechanics can help me though.....they say it normal. It never did it that bad before the rebuild though....

Seven Heaven

hmm possibly the turbos had it? oil leaking into turbo? Yeah Mine only manages 400km city and highway..and price of petrol ridiculously expensive...

So really thinking of selling it..and getting a lux car....Hmmm don't wanna part with it..Arghh!

silkishuge

Thanks for all the info guys.

Seven Heaven, I think that you might regret selling your FD. Ihave heard really good stuff about its handling and performance. A bit to expensive for me at the moment.

if you were thinking of selling it and getting a new car, what car would you get? My recommendation is the Subaru Liberties..... great car, can get great performance and haandling as well, but will never be the same as your FD unfortunately.

Seven Heaven

Yeah well had the car for 2 yrs now..so enjoyed it. It was either buying another cheap car..to get around in or use the money for that plus the FD to get a lux car.

Was not think about speed etc cause i don't get to fang the FD around often now as i only use it to go to work...and in peek hour its not really an entertaining drive. haha...

I think i might go european maybe...perhaps a 325Ci or something like that in black. easy to drive and also on fuel..

silkishuge

325 is a nice looking car, real classy. Expensive price to pay for the performance you will be getting I reckon. I guess when it is time to move on, we have to move on. I on the other hand have a commuter, want a change for the weekends. I will be test driving a 93 FD this weekend..... very excited, first time in one.

btw, driving to wok in a FD everyday can be quite expensive...... nor wonder you want to swap cars. How much are ou looking to sell the car for?

eric e

i know many of you will have visited this site before but it was new to me

as it mainly seems to deal with FC engines i thought silk should know of it if hasn't found it yet already

http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/

eric e

may steam clean my FD engine with his water injection method

http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/ro...injection.html

Seven Heaven

Looking at low 30's for it..Silver 93 model. done 120,000 kms.pretty much stock except for exhaust, ARC pod filters.

Its an Type R -Efini from Japan so 4 seats.

silkishuge

30+k is a bit too rich for me, unless I sell my current car. But I reckon you will have little problem selling this car in the open market. I would like to have the additional 2 seats in teh rear for additional space.

Thanks eric e, that website is very useful. Still reading it at the moment. It seems that his prices are not too expensive. Its probably cheaper to maintain a FD or FC in the states.

I will be going to check out an 93 FD and a 89 FC today. First time in an FD, can't wait.

silkishuge

Can anyone tell me what the advantage is for using a 3mm apex seal rather than a 2 mm apex seal? I thought all three chambers would be sufficiently air tight using 2 mm seals. 3 mm seals last longer? Thanks.

cr7684

iTrader: (42)

a 1988 is a good car,a 3gen looks good but you can get more power out of a turbo II.

eric e

just been looking at a japanese video where an fd dyno's 710hp with 2kg/cm boost

4 guys sitting in the back of it to keep it on the dyno

the noise it makes as the turbos reach top speed for the big power runs are amazing

what's the best that people get from the T11 engine?

eric e

silkishuge

The best I have seen is 650hp. It was a red FC S5 TII for sale about 9 months ago. Had dyno data but not sure how reliable that was. was going for about 20+k if I remember correctly.

The FC S5 I tested in the weekend was awsome. It was the best one I tested so far. The FD was in poor condition. practically falling apart. Disappointed

MaTT_RX7

man go for the FC if you like it, you can get great power and a shitload of torque with just a simple hi-flow, its too expensive to modify the stock twins on a FD.

DaiOni

but you can get 400hp on stock twins - not even in the same ballpark with a stock FC

silkishuge

I thought that the stock FD will give 173 kW (231 hp), while the stock FC S5 gives about 147 kW or 198 hp. Think the FD SP gives 206 kW (276 hp). How did you get 400 hp stock for an FD?

MaTT_RX7, think I have decided to got with a FC, mainly cost concerns. Maintance is too high, car is too expensive. Prefer the look of the FC...... but I understand that the handling of a well looked after FD far exceeds the handling of a FC.

DaiOni

modifying potential

silkishuge

DaiOni, The modifying potential without spending heaps on an FD is about 400hp? Is that what you meant?

What is the modifying potential for the FC? Will it be different for the series 5 and the series 4 becasue I think the series 4 has a slighly less powerful engine, or maybe detuned engine.

What is the cheapest, safetest way to increase the power and torque of the FC and how much whould I be looking to pay for it?

silkishuge

Just found out that we are no longer allowed to import cars from overseas anymore with the 15 year rule. Heard that from Geoff, Prestige motors.

That really reducess the options I have. have to buy one locally. Problem is that most of them are quite expensive.

MaTT_RX7

FC are not too expensive in australia and they have usually been rebuilt, i paid $10k for my S4, had fresh paint, rebuilt S5 engine and g/box.

As for power and torque go microtech, f/mount, fuel pump, and mega hiflow!!!! my car got 623NM @ Wheels from this setup. drives excellent.