Efini_7

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Actually that's a pretty good point, matty. Props to you for not flaming. Like the single v. twin topic, it all comes down to personal preference i guess.

cewrx7r1

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When I went single (about $3200 total), I sold all my twin parts: turbos, DP, Efini Y pipe, M2 hard intake pipes, and twin K&N air filters. This netted me about $1000 so my real cost were about $2200.

Of couse I already had the fuel, ignition, ECU, and IC upgrades already.


If you jump from near stock to single at one time, then it is a lot more expensive.
But you will still need some of them to go BNR 2 or 3.

hus

Nice write-up So what you're saying is that when I purchase my single that you're gonna install it for me?

Broken09

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Definately look into A-Spec's 500R kit. Mine spools to 16psi almost as fast as my T3 35R did. (about 200rpm difference) and it makes very solid/streetable power.

GoodfellaFD3S

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Nic, the 500r looks pretty damn impressive. Problems are cost, and availability.

Also, I've said it before and I'll say it again, on pump gas I will put my FD up against any single turbo FD. I'm not saying I'll beat them all, but it'll definitely be close .

showoff

pump gas and meth injection??

GoodfellaFD3S

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which pretty much equals 'race gas' for all intents and purposes. Nice try

matty

420 rwhp is very nice rich but i just feel like todays cars are nuts. I mean is 420 enough to hang with single turbo supras, nos c5 z06s (or even stock c6 z06s), chipped and pullied cobras, nos'ed up ls1's, etc. All these cars are a dime a dozen too.


if i spent that kind of money that it takes to make thta kind of power with the bnrs i would hate to get beat by just about any other highly modded cat outthere.

Rxmfn7

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While that may be true.. the old saying goes "there will always be someone faster". If all you want to do is be king of the streets roll racing, Im sure about everyone here will agree that an FD is not the best car to start with.

matty

yeah your right there will always be smeone faster but the cars i described are everywhere! having said that my point is u need more than 420.

Rxmfn7

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True, but honestly how much more are the single guys making in street trim (pump gas). 450-475 tops? I for one dont want to have to run race gas all the time to make big power. Just have to accept the engines limitations.. not that a ~450rwhp FD is slow

matty

u run race gas when u need it.

my problem with going single is being able to get it tuned properly. when my engine blows i will go single. that means i will have to send my car somewhere to have a new engine and turbo put it then i have to drive the car to break it in then i finally have to have it tuned. when u are going for big power u always run into some sort of problem where u just need that one more thing. so if u dont have a tuner close u are bascially screwed. cause u arent gonna fly Kan out three times to finally get it right. the only way that "i" would be able to do it is if the installer/mechanic/tuner is able to break my car in for me then finish the work. Basically hand someone my car and say i will be back to pay you and pick it up when it makes 475 plus.

showoff

thats somewhat tru, but now adays with meth/water injection becoming more n more popular ill think ull start 2 see alot more 475rwhp+ single turbo 7s running around on the street on PUMP gas with meth injection thats my ultimate plan....... for now iam going to use c16 to break the 500whp mark but eventually i will switch over to meth injection cuz its just alot more realistic 2 me

-dj

seanbrowning

LOL if you want to hang out with a supra you need more displacement. The 13b is good, but it won't match a 6 cylinder supra. Those motors are bulletproof. Just go get a 20b if you want to make BIG numbers on pump gas. If I ever see 400hp, I'll die happy. Right now I'm looking forward to 300 on a reliable pump gas tune(10psi on twins).

If you want a supra, BUY A SUPRA.

matty

around here is very rare to see a supra making more than 550 rwhp.

the problem around here are the v8s with n2o. The most cars around here are making is 500-550. But thats done very easily and they are evywhere. so basically i would like my car to be faster///i guess i need 450-475 and the 7 will be on top.

seanbrowning

Well to get that power you're looking at race gas to make it safe. Or atleast thats what it seems.

showoff

if believe at 15/16pounds i should be very close to 450rwhp on 100percent pump gas.... its all about picking a good turbo and having a good ported motor, i run a t78 but the aspec 500r has been putting out excellent numbers on pump gas as well..... and like i said before throw in meth injection and you dont have to worry about finding race gas anymore.....

-dj

seanbrowning

How much does meth injection cost? just curious

showoff

ive seen water/meth injection kits range from anywhere to 299 to 599, its all about how fancy you want to get

seanbrowning

Just did a search and found some. Thats definetly going on my TO DO list when I go single.

Improved FD

exactly

who cares....enjoy the car...you can spend countless thousands trying to be king of the hill and you get trumped by the next supercharged C5, ha

GoodfellaFD3S

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Maybe you should move to northern NJ matt. In the last 2 years I have seen zero modified/spraying v8s.

matty

most people here.

GoodfellaFD3S

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Matty, I somewhat agree with you for straight line/drag/highway racing. Our motors just aren't large enough. If you want to stay rotary, a 20b fixes all of that.

However, go to an autocross or a road race course and things change. With typical drivers, those spraying v8s and 1 million horsepower monsters find out that all that power is a detriment.

hus

I try to look at it this way: My goal in my FD is 400rwhp. Will that be enough? Probably not. I'm sure I'll get use to it the same way I did as I increased CCs in Sportbikes. But if I had a 550rwhp Supra, then what about the guy with 600rwhp Supra, or the 625rwhp Z06? It's a never ending story. Point is, the FD is pretty damn fast and lite. And unless you're gonna be at the drag strip every week or doing lots of track days then how many times are you actually gonna be lined up next to these 550 and 600rwhp cars? How often will you be using that 500rwhp? I would like to be the fastest around my city as well but for now I'm ok with being "one" of the fastest