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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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see, it IS a problem. . . maybe this will be seen by moderators. . .
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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I think there should be a test to pass after reading the FAQ to become a member and start posting. HAHA.


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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sonix7
Now more newbs are going to see that comment and run and get a full 3" exhaust and we are a few FD's shorter.
Yes, because blowing an engine also blows the car up into a million pieces .

If the engine blows, just rebuild it and learn from your mistakes. Were not going to run out of RX-7s and engines anytime soon.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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I agree...a test would be nice. However, I also love reading the same thing over and over and over and over again. There should also be a filter of some sort, that once the question is answered by...maybe 3 different angles, then NO MORE.

Thought invoking threads are good...they help get things accomplished
Threads that repeat like a broken record...suck.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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get a profec b and you will be ok but i'd put a hi flo cat in.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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um boost controllers are only used to up the boost. not lower it...Am i wrong on this? maybe thats just for external wastegates
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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your are half right and half wrong.


it can lower boost if the waste gate can handle it.


if its boost creep, then you are right.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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He can use the boost controller to bring down boost back to stock levels but it cannot be used to lower the boost to 2lbs or 0lbs.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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You cannot use a boost controller to lower the boost below the wastegate spring (or in the FD's case, the actuator pressure). The FD runs a 7 psi "spring" but is setup to run a stock value of 10 psi, therefore a boost controller may be used to lower boost below stock.

Since the original poster still has the stock intake and IC, he can probably control boost back down to 10 psi without any issues. More importantly, however, is to learn how to properly mod these cars before you start messing with them....
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 12:40 AM
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that is true, you can't lower the boost below the wastegate spring level.

But Can you lower it with pop off valve? pretty much it wouldn't let it build boost. But it might over spool your turbos.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 02:02 AM
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you think he blew his motor yet?
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Only a matter of time.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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i think we'll soon be seeing a thread with a title "OMG i blew my motor! WTF HAPPENED?!"
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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Yeah, like everyone says. You either need to get a standalone and get it tuned or replace your midpipe with your stock main cat.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TwinTurbo93
He will need to keep the boost @ 7-8psi max, with a high flow exhaust and a stock ECU not to lean out, beacuse he'll have alot more air flow at the same boost level, otherwise the ka-boom efect is very likely to accur.
With respect, that's nonsense. Can you give a calculation of the extra air flow in cfm to support that statement please?
He can safely run 10psi boost with a mid pipe. I'm guessing he may have a boost guage and boost controller, hope so anyway!

Most of the comments on this thread are trying to belittle the guy, are you all such experts or just follow each other like sheep? Some of you talk from experience, most of you read something, take it as gospel and preach it.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wan
Yes, because blowing an engine also blows the car up into a million pieces .

If the engine blows, just rebuild it and learn from your mistakes. Were not going to run out of RX-7s and engines anytime soon.
no, not what I was implying. I am merely saying how long does the usual rebuild take and never actually gets done. so many of us have our cars in the garage for the wrong reasons. I for one am able to drive mine, but wasn't able to for some time. I really don't give a damn what some ediot wants to do. I was smart enough to learn and find out before modifying my car. to each its own.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Trevrxuk
He can safely run 10psi boost with a mid pipe.
Very doubtful without some sort of restrictor plate in the exhaust as it'll probably creep to at least 14#s.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Marshall
Very doubtful without some sort of restrictor plate in the exhaust as it'll probably creep to at least 14#s.
I appreciate your point, but I can only talk from experience and that is my FD can hold any psi above 7 fine with an HKS EVC, with a mid pipe fitted. Also have intake and cat back mods. I can't think why my wastegate was born lucky lol, they're all the same!
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Trevrxuk
Most of the comments on this thread are trying to belittle the guy, are you all such experts or just follow each other like sheep? Some of you talk from experience, most of you read something, take it as gospel and preach it.
I'm the one that follow others like sheeps and acts like a tape recorder and spit back what others have said.... So, don't listen to me.. I know nothing and going full exhaust is the best thing ever with stock ecu and no boost controller.. ALL the NEWBS, GO FULL EXHAUSTS AND GO NUTS ON THE ROAD!!! HEEE HAWW!!!

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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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i think that test neededs to be completed by everyone not just noobs b/c you have people that have 300+ posts that will still ask questions or say stuff like this. so evryone thats on the forums now should take the test as for the green horns
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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i think that test neededs to be completed by everyone not just noobs b/c you have people that have 300+ posts that will still ask questions or say stuff like this.
.....SAID THE GUY WITH 260 POSTS!
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 12:49 AM
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yeah i'm not saying i wouldn't learn anything from the test ether. i might be able to learn a lot of info when its all compressed down into one readable document not just this thread here that thread over there... so i have only 260 posts but i know when a question is stupied or not thats why i use the search and if i can't find the anwser the i post the stupied question. i'm not saying myself at 260 posts know everything there is all i'm saying is some people with way higher posts counts then me ask really dumb questions.

and i'm just throwing this in after the fact. but why does everyone have to say smart *** comments every f^cking time someone as something to say. i looked over my post and it was a legit post not really bashing anyone in particular and someone as to say some smart *** comment. he has only 60 posts and he is making a comment about what i stated at 260 posts. WTF?! but whatever i guess ******** are everywhere and this forum isn't any different.

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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 01:53 AM
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OK guys..

Both of you been on the forum since may and june of 2005.. I been on the forum since Nov 2001. Does that mean I know more than you guys?? well, maybe on somethings but not all.

My thing on here is to try to help anyone who needs help. I remember when I first got my 7 and wanted to mod it as I knew one other person with an FD. And that person lived 250 miles away from me. He told me about parts trader and someone whom I bought parts from told me about the forum for 7 owners. Ever since, I've met great friends from the forum and learned a great deal of stuff on the forum. Hence I try to pay back by helping others if I can..

I do think at this point, newbs should go thru some sort of testing.. At least they should read the FAQ page before posting. Over several years, Ive seen same question pop up over and over and over again.. And eventually, I'm going to get sick of it and I'm going to move on... Either to different parts of the forum or different forum overall.

I've already noticed less and less veteran 7 owners come on to the 3rd gen section... And I'm sure eventually even less will come on and help. So, please!! lets stop the smart *** comments, use the search function on the forum, and go meet some local 7 owners... Because one on one, or group gathering, you'll learn hell of a lot more then reading the forum..

And eventually we all need help from each other. Down here in Bham, we get together almost every week or every month. Today, 4 of the FD owners pulled out an engine together. It saved time, money, and we all learn from it. Goto your regional forum and see if there is a gathering near you. Go see other 7s and learn from each other.

One of the new 7 owners from last year now have pulled 4 engines. He went from newb who knew very little about rotary to a rotorhead who now could pull engines, turbos, and one of the fastest UIM remover I've ever seen (SN: Alucard-7).

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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by herblenny
that is true, you can't lower the boost below the wastegate spring level.

But Can you lower it with pop off valve? pretty much it wouldn't let it build boost. But it might over spool your turbos.
A pop off valve would work, but it's not really intended to be used to regulate boost pressure. It intended to be used as a "safety device" to vent overboost. It still could be used. One could also use an industrial pressure regulator with a large relief valve, same thing almost.

On the issue of false information: it is true that a lot of people have been posting a lot of false information. A recent user with 1,2xx posts that has been posting on a few of the threads that I have been reading (even one or two that I have started) has been posting "guesses" with very misleading information (often somewhat false or based on guesses). Now, it doesn't bother me too much, but someone who is new to the board/FDs might take the "information" a lot more seriously than I.

What I am trying to get at is that if you do not know the definite answer to someone's problem or you are just taking a stab in the dark based that isn't based on first hand experiences, then you should probably refrain from posting in the sake of boosting your post count. This does sound a bit harsh, as some problems such as sequential boost issues or vaguely described problems may not allow such definite answers, but in situations where someone is actually asking for definite advice based on experiences, please post only if you have something constructive to add.

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