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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 10:25 AM
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I did notice a small black hose that is disconnected that is attached to the firewall just above and to the right of the Power brake unit (round black drum). I am not sure what that goes to, but it has been that way since I bought the car so I know thats not what is keeping it from running.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by djseven
then connect it to the nub on the TB that looks like a vacuum port but is not?
I did that once after troubleshooting my injector problem and did the simplified sequential

Originally Posted by Ripley
I did notice a small black hose that is disconnected that is attached to the firewall just above and to the right of the Power brake unit (round black drum). I am not sure what that goes to, but it has been that way since I bought the car so I know thats not what is keeping it from running.
Only small hose I know of by the brake booster is the MAP line, do you have a picture?
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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I'll get you a pic as soon as I get to the car. In the meantime I'm open to more suggestions. Should I take some video of the car so you all know what it sounds like?

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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripley
I did notice a small black hose that is disconnected that is attached to the firewall just above and to the right of the Power brake unit (round black drum). I am not sure what that goes to, but it has been that way since I bought the car so I know thats not what is keeping it from running.
That goes to your windshield wiper squirters.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Yep thats it. That would make sence. Since there is a CF hood and they didnt hook up squirters. Bingo So now thats solved, lol. I can try a compression test. The thing ran flawless when I pulled it up on the driveway. Don't know what the deal is.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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Im going to be in NE the week of the 23rd for work but just looked up where Scottsbluff is located and no way will I be ou that far. Was going to offer to come by in personaand help but can make that drive.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripley
Yep thats it. That would make sence. Since there is a CF hood and they didnt hook up squirters. Bingo So now thats solved, lol. I can try a compression test. The thing ran flawless when I pulled it up on the driveway. Don't know what the deal is.

For the car to idle (not necessarily drive), you basically need fuel, ignition and compression. If you said the fuel is new, injectors are good, ignition is good, then that leaves compression to check next.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Im going to be in NE the week of the 23rd for work but just looked up where Scottsbluff is located and no way will I be ou that far. Was going to offer to come by in personaand help but can make that drive.
I'm guessing you'll be in the Omaha/Lincoln area where I'm at. If so, it's too bad.... I'm out of town that same week. I don't remember a "for instance" but sure you've helped me out over the years. I would have bought the first/second round.

Landon,
The only other suggestion I have is to systematically re-trace your steps. If you already have done it, do it again. Go back over EXACTLY what you did between the time the car ran and didn't run. Something caused it to suddenly run like crap.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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I'm guessing you'll be in the Omaha/Lincoln area where I'm at. If so, it's too bad.... I'm out of town that same week. I don't remember a "for instance" but sure you've helped me out over the years. I would have bought the first/second round.
Correct, I will be in Omaha and in Council Bluffs. Thanks for the offer though. Im out that way about every 3-4 months but try to avoid it like the plague from December-February.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 04:31 PM
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So I'm guessing overfilling the oil isn't an issue? I don't think I got any response to that.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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Landon,
The oil overfill wouldnt cause the sorts of things you're seeing with your car. The 13BREW and the other rotor engines are designed such that the rotor housing combustion/rotating parts are sealed off from the sump.

(basically its not like a piston engine in which the crankcase/crankshaft and rotating assembly is open to oil splash from the sump)

Can you verify what others are asking- that the MAP sensor (the small black rubber tube line that runs from the throttle body, has a round black filter inline, and runs up to a small square electrical sensor bolted to your firewall) is connected, and connected to the correct port on the engine intake, and the other end is connected to the black square sensor on the firewall, and that the sensor has its electrical plug connected?

-Matt
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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Correct, I will be in Omaha and in Council Bluffs. Thanks for the offer though. Im out that way about every 3-4 months but try to avoid it like the plague from December-February.
Rain-check then. Don't blame you on the winter thing. The older I get, the more attactive the term "snow-bird".
Triple digits today.....but it's a wet heat.

Now appolgies to Landon for going off-topic.
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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lol no worries Jim. I'll take some pics, confirm and run through everything again that I did. Thanks for the answer on the oil. I just want to drive my car dang it lol
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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Is there any way to make sure all the spark plugs are firing? Or that they are getting juice through the cables?
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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Is there any way to make sure all the spark plugs are firing? Or that they are getting juice through the cables?
Yea you take out the spark plug and install it to the spark plug wire and crank the motor. Have someone look at the spark plug to check if you can see spark out of it. Make sure while you are doing this that the spark plug is grounded.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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sounds like a disconnected map sensor hose to me..
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
sounds like a disconnected map sensor hose to me..
That has happened to me before. 5 minutes of freakout then approximately 38 facepalms.

Then, all was well.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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^ x 2. I did it two weeks ago. It belched white smoke and idled/ran terrible just as described.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
sounds like a disconnected map sensor hose to me..
In my experience, which is limited, this does not seem like the same problem. With the map sensor hose disconnected, the car will still idle, it will just have a bad idle. The OP can't seem to keep his car idling at all without his foot on the gas. That seems different.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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you're right, if the car is in good running condition but we don't know how well the car was running prior. could point to other underlying issues like faulty idle solenoids, ignition issues or too much fueling due to a fuel system issue.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 05:27 PM
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It's a pretty crappy issue. It was running FLAWLESSLY before. Thats what baffles me. I don't know what could go bad with the car just sitting there.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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Did you make sure you don't have a stuck open injector?
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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Have you done a compression test??
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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could be a stuck injector
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