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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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Will I pass smog without an air pump? (new subject)

OK well my air pump is not working and I dont care to fix it, because I have heard that RX7's can pass smog without an air pump, but with a high flow after market catalytic converter. I have even read reviews of people who have removed the air pump and installed a high flow cat, and have successfully passed smog.
I would just like to get some more advice and info before I decide to do anything. My plans are to get the car running right ( a/f at 14.7:1), before I replace my cats.I am keeping the air pump to pass the "visual inspection". Now my question is.....If my car is running properly, will I be able to pass smog WITHOUT a working air pump , but with an aftermarket cat that does not require an air pump to funtion properly?
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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I thought there was no smog checks in Florida?
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 01:10 AM
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there isnt smog checks in florida..
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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No im moving to California very soon, so ...... ya lol anyone know if I can pass smog with the high flow cat and no air pump?
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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Nope. You are screwed unless you know somebody.
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 01:55 AM
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If you're military you can legally keep your car registered in Fl (I know this first hand ) if not, g'luck!
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 02:10 AM
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wouldn't it be cheaper to just replace the air pump, they go for what $25
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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replacing the air pump would be a good idea if it was bad, but its not, its the wiring, but im not gonna go there.... anyway thanks for the help
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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hah, youll be lucky to get the FD to pass WITH all the emission control stuff
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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ok so what do you guys suggest I should do?? I am originally from California, lived there all my live , so I know that California has the strictest emission laws in the country, but I KNOW there are ways around it..... Any ideas, tips? My lil brother will be having the same problem with smogging his 91 MR2 with a fully built race engine and CT20B turboi lol, but seriously, please id really appreciate any help
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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my car passed in ma with pfc and hiflow (no air pump)
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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What is a pfc? and Ive heard that using a catalytic converter without an air pump can lead to an early death for the converter, is this true? I question this statment , because new cars do NOT have air pumps
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My suggestion is to stay in this wonderful land of no emissions!
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1: There is an air pump relay, it would be simple to test it, there may also be a fuse. This is probably an easy fix

2: If your unable or unwilling to fix the wiring properly, wire in a 2 dollar toggle switch, or jump the air pump directly to power before you go on for the test.
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Old Sep 2, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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can't you keep it registered in FL? when do the plates expire?
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Easy, just open the secondary throttle plates a small amount with the bump adjustment screw .The car will get more air and run lean at idle because the TPS will not know the extra air is there .I do this with my car to pass the sniff test and I have done it with customers stock cars that will not pass ,sec and third gens .
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Old Sep 2, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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I dont know wht the laws are for vehicle registation, but are you saying its possible for me to leave my car registered in Florida, so that way I dont have to pass smog FIRST THING when we move to california? and my tags are good until june 08.
and for GARCO MOTORWORKS,how safe is this method of temporarily leaning out the engine, to pass smog?
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and for (slo) I did test the air pump relay and i got it to click when i hooked it directly to the battery, and there is a 15 amp a/c fuse in the circuit that I tested, and it turns out it was BLOWN, BUT I replaced that fuse, and the new fuse has been there for a while and it did not blow again which indicated there is no short to ground. After all this is STILL didnt work......????????? I dont care if the air pump never works again, my goal is just to pass smog =|
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Old Sep 3, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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How safe? lean at idle is fine , I make the adjustment and drive to the test center and drive back and readjust back . Have you ever blown an engine at idle ?
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I have a pump I just passed emissions with $30 shipped.
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alright......I may consider using this method.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by GARCO MOTORWORKS
Easy, just open the secondary throttle plates a small amount with the bump adjustment screw .The car will get more air and run lean at idle because the TPS will not know the extra air is there .I do this with my car to pass the sniff test and I have done it with customers stock cars that will not pass ,sec and third gens .
wont work. in CA its not just a sniff test at idle... there is an actual dyno that your car is tested on at various rpm's under load. (the awd guys are lucky cause theres no way for them to dyno test them so they get the old style sniff test). either way as far as ive thought it through it wont work in CA.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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No im moving to California very soon, so ...... ya lol anyone know if I can pass smog with the high flow cat and no air pump?
CA?? See you there.. I'm from CA
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by grimple1
can't you keep it registered in FL? when do the plates expire?
There's a law in California stating that you need to register your car within 20 days of moving into the state. I'm sure it's to bother those that registered their car out of state to avoid smog and so the state can collect dues.

From the DMV site: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures...r9.htm#feesdue

"Commercial vehicles and any vehicle owned by a California resident must be registered upon entry into California unless a special permit was obtained. Visitors whose vehicles are properly registered to them in their home state may operate their vehicles in California until they:

* Accept gainful employment in California.
* Claim a homeowner's exemption in California.
* Rent or lease a residence in California.
* Intend to live or be located here on a permanent basis (for example, acquire a California driver license, acquire other licenses not ordinarily extended to a nonresident, registered to vote).
* Enroll in an institution of higher learning as a California resident or enroll their dependents in school (K-12).

Fees must be paid within 20 days of entry or residency to avoid penalties.

NOTE: Nonresident military personnel stationed in California or their spouses may operate their vehicles with valid out-of-state license plates from their home state or the state where the military person was last stationed.

Fees must be paid within 20 days of entry or residency to avoid penalties."
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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That's a pretty standard law. It's like that in most states. 20 days from move-in date, etc, etc,

And all I'm saying is that I drove my 240sx for 5 years in Chicago w/ Tennessee tags and registration (got pulled over numerous times) and never had a problem. I've have been driving my RX7 here in LA area for 2 years with Chicago Tags.

You can do what you want but the law is the final say.
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