because I ran out of talent in the middle of the turn

 

I've read a few of replies that say the car boosted when unexpected...

I am not sure how that happens... If you are in control of the car, can't you tell when the power is about to come online? If it boosted, and you didn't expect it, doesn't that mean you hit the gas a bit too hard?

 

Ran out of talent...very well said.

 

I did the same thing in a corner. But i didnt wreck. I live in an area where there was a alot of farm land and one point so there was no curb or poll or anthing i just few off the road after i came out of the turn, Note this is when i first bought the car and i was testing it any way yeah i am lucky

 

I believe they are referring to the secondary boost coming online which will give the car a nice "surge". If you aren't expecting it while in a turn, it can cause a problem known as "spin-itus" if you don't know how to handle the car.

 

scratches tip:
when racing around, do not get scared and slam on your breaks. slamming on your breaks while racing around the street will upset the balance of your car, making it easier to lose control.

 

This is exactly why the PFC keeps the twins in non-sequential mode once you've gone above transition until you drop back below 3k rpm. I believe the stock ecu does this as well but I don't know the rpm it goes back to sequential.

And yes, BLKTOPTRVL, the main problem is abruptly boosting, not just boosting. One of the most important things you learn at the track is to drive SMOOTH. For example, at the track, you better be at full boost exiting a turn or you are going to get smoked by every other car out there.... It's more of an example of imperfect throttle control than a flaw with the car IMO.

 

What Mahjik said is what happened to me...4500 RPM's came and before I made it to 5000 I was drifting unintentionally toward a ditch in the dark going a little over 55. Boost is predictable, yes. That happening when boost came on, was not.

 

Yes, going back to my SMOOTH comment. Going into a turn too fast and then abruptly lifting off the throttle or worse, hitting the brakes, will most likely result in the rear end coming around VERY quickly....

 

ran out of talent in the middle of a curve as well and overcorrected.

 

Just so you guys know, and especially Adam C., This thread really may have helped me, or at least made me think twice about driving those country roads so carelessly. I hope it helps someone before its too late for them too.
Ryan.

 

<< Moral #3) don't drive an FD in the rain (or snow). >>

that's how I got into my accident... weather turned suddenly, and started to lightly snow, and I was still at school, 20 miles away from home...so I'm like aiight.. time to get goin

By the time I got about 5 min away from my house, there was a good 2 -3 inches of snow on the ground...and things didn't look pretty

i was trying to drive as straight and careful as I could...and I was coming down a hill and the lane slighly turns... I'm in 2nd gear, goin 25 mph at this point, but I wanna slow down some more... so im slooowwwwly letting off the gas, when that notorious notchy jerk that you get in 2nd happens, and that was enough to cause me to lose all traction...

the back swept out from me, and I was now 90 degrees to the traffic...still sliding down the hill...

if ya think that's horrifying, I was sliding w/ my driver side facing traffic, and I watched slowly...in horror...as this big SUV braked and attempted to swerve wildly...I watched it skid, and come closer...and closer...and closer...till it bashed into the front driver side fender... i can still remember starin helplessly into those huge headlights... i kinda felt like a deer....

thankfully the damage too bad... new fender, new bumper, new pop up light... and a new rear tailight??? i have no idea how that happened, but somehow the smoked glass outer layer on my driver side (impact side) tailight burst from the impact...

so again...

<< Moral #3) don't drive an FD in the rain (or snow). >>

that's one to live by.

 

um.. week before christmas, i was stopping at a stop sign, hit some black ice, slid about 3 feet past the stop sign... and a civic slammed into the front left corner of my car at about 50 mph.

i'll get my car back sometime in february

oh... and just to reinforce what everyone else said:
Dont Drive The FD In Bad Weather! or even after bad weather...

 

RYNBURG that was my point -- that you need to be in control of the car and not the car in control of you

I think the point that many miss is that driving on the street and driving on the track are two very different things. On the track, you go ten/tenths and get away with it much of the time because the track has been manicured for high speed, you are very framiliar with every curve and elevation change, there is runoff room (in most places), and nobody should ever be coming the other way.

Driving on the road, you can never know what will be in the road: sand, tossed garbage, water, a stopped vehicle that broke down, etc. IMO, if you feel that you gotta go fast on the street, that is more a place for 7/10th driving at most. Driving like hell around blind bends, or outside of your sight is just asking for trouble.

In many cases touble means somebody dies for a little fun.

I think the best lesson to new drivers who have not had a lot of experience is to always to take it easy on the streets.

 

Just to reinforce what he reinforced DO NOT DRIVE THE FD IN BAD WEATHER unless you have to (which I know that some of us do).
I totalled my FD during some freezing rain when I overestimated my ability to handle the FD on a slick uphill corner (ended up rolling it.. twice). I was actually driving conservatively, just not conservatively enough...

Part that made me mad was that:
A. I had a perfectly good subaru impreza I could have driven instead
B. I was going to store my car for the winter THREE DAYS after I totalled it
C. I was going to store my car the week previously but did not want to wait an extra few hours for a ride back to school..
PATIENCE is a virtue

If you dont want to be shopping for a new FD THREE FREAKING MONTHS AFTER YOU BUY THE CAR OF YOUR DREAMS (and daydreams ) then please for the love of rotors do not overestimate your driving ability!!!

Dan

 

What Adam C described and Redneck experienced is what has almost landed me in two accidents. The first time I was getting boost spikes and I only had driven about 1k miles in an FD so I will excuse myself a little bit and the second time (much scarier) came at about 90mph in third gear when the second turbo showed my lack of skill. That was within 75 miles of adding Power FC, Greddy FMIC and some other goodies, so I guess I just need to thank God that I managed to correct the car. Hopefully making the same mistake twice in 3 years has taught me my lesson.

 

I also am a victim of an animal (deer), but was not in an FD, I was in my 2 month old Civic Si going out to a friends house and a deer jumped in the road, swerved, missed the deer, hit a tree doing about 45. The thing that hurt me the most emotionally was when the tow truck was pulling the car out of the ditch and i heard a loud grinding/screeching noise and i looked over and my tire, rim, A-arm and the rest of my suspension on that corner of the car was laying in the ditch. I had a friend and 2 foreign girls from Russia with me, and lets just say that we didn't let anyone else from Russia know that happened... we wanted to keep them with us as long as possible. I also had my sunroof open and had a beanie on and it flew off of my head upon impact and landed 15 ft infront of the car. We all had our seatbelts on, but picture this: What if we didn't have our seatbelts on? If a beanie weighing just a few ounces flew 15 ft out of the car, how far would the 2 people in the front (myself and my friend), weighing both around 145, been thrown? 15 yards maybe? I probably would have hit the tree, my friend would have went into the woods though.

Needless to say, your car can be powerfull (FD) or not-so-powerfull (Civic Si) and you can have a bad wreck either way, it's all about how well you can drive your car, not how well you think you can drive it.

 

every single thing in my car, including my windshield mounted rearview mirror, went out the rear hatch since it busted at some point in the wreck. Everything I had in the behind the seat bins flew out...the whole deal...and I'd bet that I would have gone if it weren't for the seatbelt. WEAR IT!
Ryan.

 

I was driving home one night started to pour out raining i was liek ****! go straight about 2 miles from my freaking house! some guy headfaked me trying to pull out so turned a hair!!!! i mean freaking hair!!!! and u guys know wut happened after that i drifted unintentionally for about eternity thought i had control of it !!!! but i guess not i hit a bump on the freaking street and hit a freaking tree god this messes me up till this day im no the same driver as i was. after gotten to that accident i cant drive like i could im such a defensive driver then an offense of driver

DONT DRIVE YOUR FD IN THE RAIN OR SNOW NOT EVEN IF IT DRIZZZLES!!!! PLEASE SAVE OUR FD !!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you

 

I never even made it into the turn. I was practicing my 2-3 shift, and at about 85 I started to slow down. Unfortunately, I never actually slowed down until I hit the curb, slid about 20 yards into a field, and managed to stop between a poll and a tree.

 

scratches tip:
if possible, find a nice road with sharp turns where you can see oncoming cars coming. each day take those turns faster and faster to test the limits of your car. doing this in the rain is a plus. watch your confidence points rise.

 

scratches tip:
proper seating with your seat up, your wrists above the steering wheel, and *** planted to the back of the seat, will let you feel the rear end of the car more.

 

if you are going to drive in the snow...make sure you have good snow tires.

i got some nice studless tires on monday(205/55/16s)...and was plowing through 3-4 inches of fresh snow for the last couple of days "no sweat." Only time it got "sketchy" was when i started trying to plow through 5+ inches and the car started floating a bit on the top of the snow I got tired of driving behind the cars with chains at only 25 mph.

but then it just gets a bit squirly and you keep the right foot on the gas a bit...and the left a bit on the brakes...and don't turn the wheel more than 10 degrees either way. Steer with your feet.

granted i've got some exprience with driving cars when they're squirrly. Rally driving is the best type of driving lessons possible I though I was a damm good "in control" driver...till that first weekend of 80+ mph on gravel ...then i learned how much I had to learn. I've been doing it for 3 years now and still consider myself a pretty crappy rally driver.

oh yah, and I WAS suprised at how quick the car would step its tail out when coming out of a corner. It is "pretty" catchable, but it did get my heart racing a bit. First time I got it sliding...it went nearly perpendicular to the direciton of travel and it took me 3 "swaps" in direction to get it back in control with just a bit of boost.

when I was plowing through the 5 inches of snow...i musta changed "attitudes" like 7-8 times in a 400 yard section of road. My passenger left cheek marks in the seat

john

 

wow the biggest problems our rx7s seem to have are bad drivers...

And no doing this will build really **** poor confidence..All you get good at is taking a turn quick. then that one day when you take it quick and you car loses its ****...your done...learn to control your car...come on guys i wanna buy several of these things I dont wanna have to build ones from scraps at junk yards

 

maybe for you, but knowing what your car can and cannot do will make you more of an aware driver. the point of that tip is learning to control your car.