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Why doesn't the ECU compensate for mods?

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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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The FD has a Speed Density based fuel control.

Speed Density
Speed Density systems accept input from sensors that measure engine speed (in rpm) and load (manifold vacuum in kPa), then the computer calculates airflow requirements by referring to a much larger (in comparison to an N Alpha system) preprogrammed lookup table, a map of thousands of values that equates to the engine’s volumetric efficiency (VE) under varying conditions of throttle position and engine speed. Engine rpm is provided via a tach signal, while vacuum is transmitted via an intake manifold-mounted Manifold Air Pressure (MAP) sensor. Since air density changes with air temperature, an intake manifold-mounted sensor is also used.

Production-based Speed Density computers also utilize an oxygen (O2) sensor mounted in the exhaust tract. The computer looks at the air/fuel ratio from the O2 sensor and corrects the fuel delivery for any errors. This helps compensate for wear and tear and production variables. Other sensors on a typical Speed Density system usually include an idle-air control motor to help regulate idle speed, a throttle-position sensor that transmits the percentage of throttle opening, a coolant-temperature sensor, and a knock sensor as a final fail-safe that hears detonation so the computer can retard timing as needed.

Because a Speed Density system still has no sensors that directly measure engine airflow, all the fuel mapping points must be preprogrammed, so any significant change to the engine that alters its VE requires reprogramming the computer.
Taken from this article: http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...ion/index.html

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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 03:37 AM
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again back to my point everyone keeps ignoring

the 1JZ and JDM 2JZ use speed density also

and the toyota ECU seems to compensate a whole lot better than ours
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 04:08 AM
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Our ECU's do not adapt well to changes because they were not programmed to.
The fuel pump is good to 12psi.
Our injectors are good for an ambitious 1bar.
The turbos are probably "reliable" at 1bar.
It's not so much that our ecu can't display similar diversity as that it doesn't.
Why would you expect the ECU to allow; much less provide for, the unforeseeable and unintended? The fuel cut at 11psi is a Defense Mechanism.
I think the ecu is well designed considering that when we force our engines to compensate for our modifications their lifespan does tend to diminish.

The Rx7 is a scalpel; not a machete.

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