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ptrhahn 03-30-04 07:57 AM

Sombody's cracked every brand of rotor on the market. What were the conditions?





Originally posted by Fatman0203
Im not to sure about the quality of Stop-Tech.
Maybe this is a rare case, but my friend just went through his 2nd pair of rotors due to cracking. This is on a lighly modded WRX with good tires. I mean, I dont know the first time they replaced them free of charge not sure about this 2nd time.


the_glass_man 03-30-04 08:22 AM

Are we talking drilled rotors cracking here? The solution is to get plain face rotors. Drills=Rice

rynberg 03-30-04 10:12 AM


Originally posted by ptrhahn
My only problem with either the RZ's or the Mandevilles (which are virtually the same thing in the end) is pad choice. RZ's and OE use the same pad shape, and many of the better pad compounds aren't available... particularly the best ones: PFCs. With the standard Stop-Tech (or Wilwoord, Brembo, AP, etc.) the world is your oyster... any pad you want. Available anywhere.


True, the pad issue is about the only negative of the 99 setup. But if you run a Stoptech (or other) kit up front with the OEM brakes in the rear, that means you're running entirely different compounds (or even pad brands) front and rear? I didn't think that was good for stable braking, especially trail-braking.

BTW, what company is PFC, I'm not familiar with them. (Performance Friction?) Peter, have you tried out Porterfields?

ptrhahn 03-30-04 10:26 AM

Performance Friction.

Oddly, they've discontinued the excellent 93 compound for the front pad, but still make the 90 for the rear, as well as some of the new 97 and 01's. You're out of luck for the fronts.

I've never tried porterfields, but won't use Hawks.

Fatman0203 03-30-04 11:04 AM


Originally posted by artowar
What type of rotors did he have? Under what conditions did the cracking occur?
The rotors were ONLY slotted. Track conditions.

wrankin 03-30-04 11:53 AM


Originally posted by ptrhahn

I've never tried porterfields, but won't use Hawks.

Why the venom against Hawks? I have used HPS (steet) and HP+ (for some light track duty) and have friends who run blues on the track (both in an FD and in a Spec-7). In general, I've heard good things about them and I'm pretty pleased with their performance.

Just wondering.

-b

ptrhahn 03-30-04 12:00 PM

Hawk Blues are the real track pads, and they leave the most god-awful dust ever. Sticks to everything, totally corrosive, impossible to clean unless you put PAM on your wheels before hand. Oh yeah, and god help you if it gets wet: its like black cement. I've still got a few specs on my fender vents that won't even come off w/ a clay bar. They'll never go on my car again.

rynberg 03-30-04 01:02 PM


Originally posted by wrankin
Why the venom against Hawks? I have used HPS (steet) and HP+ (for some light track duty) and have friends who run blues on the track (both in an FD and in a Spec-7).
I've had HP+ and HPS on my FD.

HP+: Grip like motherf*#$ers. Don't go completely away on the track. But they squeal loudly on light brake applications and dust BADLY. Dust is hard to get off too.

HPS: Don't grip nearly as well as the HP+. Fade pretty easily at the track. They're quiet but still dust pretty badly IMO, although the dust is more easily removed than the HP+.

I think I'm done with Hawk myself. Just trying to find another good brand to try, I think I'll give the Porterfield RS-4 a try next.

Fatman0203 03-30-04 01:57 PM

Hawks HPS are perfect for street. Yet for track I think you need a totally different animal.


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