Where to weld wideband 02 bung on RX7 Store Resonated Midpipe
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Where to weld wideband 02 bung on RX7 Store Resonated Midpipe
Just picked up a RX7 store resonted midpipe (magnflow)... and there is a wideband 02 sensor welded in the end of the first 1/3 of the straight midpipe right now. Midpipe is way to loud.
Just wanted to know if I should ask the muffler shop to put it in the same place it was before? Any pros/cons of welding it next to the muffler (where it would be now)? anything i should watch out for?
Also would I need an immediate tune from going to straight midpipe to a midpipe with a magnaflow muffler welded on to it (rx7 store resonated)? im tuned pretty rich.
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Just wanted to know if I should ask the muffler shop to put it in the same place it was before? Any pros/cons of welding it next to the muffler (where it would be now)? anything i should watch out for?
Also would I need an immediate tune from going to straight midpipe to a midpipe with a magnaflow muffler welded on to it (rx7 store resonated)? im tuned pretty rich.
Thanks
tune should be pretty close....i wouldnt worry about it ......just check your A/F ratio to be sure...the sensor is in a good spot on the midpipe....i have mine in the same location...reads very well...
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The fllowinf is from the TechEdge site (http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/):
Wideband Sensor Positioning
The wideband sensor must be carefully placed in order to prevent damage to the sensor itself and to maximise accuracy. Also, if you use the sensor's output directly (via the simulated narrowband output) to drive your ECU then you should be doubly careful. Please follow all of these "rules" :
The sensor should always be placed on the engine side of a catalytic converter, unless you are testing the effectiveness of the convertor itself.
The gas temperature to the sensor should never exceed 850 degrees C (about 1560 degrees Fahrenheit).
The sensor should never be run without power to the WB unit (a hot sensor burns off carbon residues)
Always have the long axis of the sensor perpendicular to the gas flow (stops sensor clogging)
Position the sensor vertically or at most between 10 o'clock to the 2 o'clock position (this avoids cracking the internal ceramic structure should moisture condense internally)
We don't recommend using a short sections of exhaust pipe shoved up your tailpipe. A specially welded additional bung is the best mounting strategy.
The sensor reads the partial pressure of gases in the exhaust and infers the AFR, rather than by measuring some magical AFR directly. This may be an issue on forced induction, and in particular, on turbo-charged engines.
AFRs will indicate richer than they are, causing you to run leaner than you think.
Lean AFR's will be richer (or less lean) than indicted.
A solution is to ensure you locate your sensor away from the turbo, and certainly on the exhaust (low pressure) side of the turbo rather than the engine side.
Wideband Sensor Positioning
The wideband sensor must be carefully placed in order to prevent damage to the sensor itself and to maximise accuracy. Also, if you use the sensor's output directly (via the simulated narrowband output) to drive your ECU then you should be doubly careful. Please follow all of these "rules" :
The sensor should always be placed on the engine side of a catalytic converter, unless you are testing the effectiveness of the convertor itself.
The gas temperature to the sensor should never exceed 850 degrees C (about 1560 degrees Fahrenheit).
The sensor should never be run without power to the WB unit (a hot sensor burns off carbon residues)
Always have the long axis of the sensor perpendicular to the gas flow (stops sensor clogging)
Position the sensor vertically or at most between 10 o'clock to the 2 o'clock position (this avoids cracking the internal ceramic structure should moisture condense internally)
We don't recommend using a short sections of exhaust pipe shoved up your tailpipe. A specially welded additional bung is the best mounting strategy.
The sensor reads the partial pressure of gases in the exhaust and infers the AFR, rather than by measuring some magical AFR directly. This may be an issue on forced induction, and in particular, on turbo-charged engines.
AFRs will indicate richer than they are, causing you to run leaner than you think.
Lean AFR's will be richer (or less lean) than indicted.
A solution is to ensure you locate your sensor away from the turbo, and certainly on the exhaust (low pressure) side of the turbo rather than the engine side.
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