what's a "reachable" goal for stock turbo cars in the 1/4 mile
A g-tech is not accurate. You can use a g-tech to test what a mod might have done to your car, but it is not good for comparing times with other people, or for bragging rights. Last time I went to the strip I made a few passes with one and it was way off. Ran a 12.6@117, it said 13.0@12?. I was pretty disappointed in it, glad I didn't waste my money on it.
Nick
Nick
now it all makes sense.
G-Techs are very accurate at the ET, but the speed on the G-Tech always shows 4-5 mph faster than the trap speed at a drag strip. thats because the G-Tech takes the instantaneous speed at the end of the 1/4 mile, as opposed to tripping the timing lights at a strip.
G-Techs are very accurate at the ET, but the speed on the G-Tech always shows 4-5 mph faster than the trap speed at a drag strip. thats because the G-Tech takes the instantaneous speed at the end of the 1/4 mile, as opposed to tripping the timing lights at a strip.
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Guys believe it or not 11.7 is actually slow for 120 MPH.
The perfect 11.7 is made around 115 MPH.
120.8 MPH is an average of 11.2 secs in the 1/4 mile.
So this guy's car can do better times, all it needs is the perfect grip.
The 11.7 @ 120 is not BS at all!!!!! Some people here need some school!!!!!!
The perfect 11.7 is made around 115 MPH.
120.8 MPH is an average of 11.2 secs in the 1/4 mile.
So this guy's car can do better times, all it needs is the perfect grip.
The 11.7 @ 120 is not BS at all!!!!! Some people here need some school!!!!!!
well since i am still in college (school) i read the thread and the argument wasnt 11 sec et's or that 120mph was possible @ those et's it was that he ran 11's @ 120+mph at 11.5psi on stock twins and all that on street tires.(so2's) i think the only car ive seen in 11's on street tires asside from aris was making like 400+rwhp
more a argument that 11.5 psi dosnent make the hp to push you to those trap speeds
and they always said my reading comprehension wasnt good....if they could see me now
ohh 11.1 is the fastest ive seen on stock twins..i mean it was @ 19psi..but anthony is shootin for 10's this year on the twins.
more a argument that 11.5 psi dosnent make the hp to push you to those trap speeds
and they always said my reading comprehension wasnt good....if they could see me now

ohh 11.1 is the fastest ive seen on stock twins..i mean it was @ 19psi..but anthony is shootin for 10's this year on the twins.
Originally posted by Bacon
More an argument that 11.5 psi dosnent make the hp to push you to those trap speeds
More an argument that 11.5 psi dosnent make the hp to push you to those trap speeds

ohh 11.1 is the fastest ive seen on stock twins..i mean it was @ 19psi..but anthony is shootin for 10's this year on the twins.
Originally posted by PhilGURU
And I guess I should have mentioned the numbers are from a g-tech which should be close that if it says 125 it is prob at least 120. I never have tested the g-tech at a track so I could just be wrong.
And I guess I should have mentioned the numbers are from a g-tech which should be close that if it says 125 it is prob at least 120. I never have tested the g-tech at a track so I could just be wrong.
That makes all the difference in the world!!!!!!!
G-Tech isnt that accurate, there are to many things to affect the time/mph
Anyway, here is what I ran.......
intake, full exhaust, Power FC right out of the box and untuned, 12.5psi of boost, fairly cold weather (mid 50's), Nitto drag radials.......
Very strong totally stock motor with 35K miles, stock IC, stock clutch, pretty much everything besides what is listed above was stock except I also had a short throw shifter and a underdrive pulley.
12.3x@113 with a 1.89 60 foot time
With a IC, upgraded fuel system, tuned Power FC, launch kit, and ported motor at 15-16psi of boost I'm looking for mid/high 11's.....we'll see
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I ran consistant high 11's on stock turbo's and stock engine. My best et was 11.74@119mph all on BFG drag radials. Prolly could have hit mid 11's w/ slicks. I ran 16psi with all your basic bolt ons as well as 1200cc secondaries and bigger fuel pump.
Originally posted by PhilGURU
And I guess I should have mentioned the numbers are from a g-tech
And I guess I should have mentioned the numbers are from a g-tech
That would explain it...i've heard various stories of the Gtech being horribly innacurate when it comes to calculating trap speed. You can get a fairly accurate et from the gtech, but I believe the Gtech's trap speed doesnt take several variables into account like CD.
I'd say mid-high 11's @ ~110 sounds a lot more feasible
I've run an 13.1 @ 113 with only a DP, CB and Efini y-pipe. Stock ECU, boost is about 11-12 psi on the first turbo and 11 tapering off to 8-9 psi by redline. It was COLD outside, maybe 30-35 F.
Oh did I mention that was measured with a g-tech? I could never back that time up, I run an bunch of 13.4's though forgot mph, but it was in the same range. Real world dragstrip gave a best of 13.59@102.85, summer time though, temps were in the high 70's low 80's. This and a few other experiences with the g-tech tells me that the times are pretty close, mph however reads high.
Don't believe the BS line that the dragstrip averages the speed over the last 100ft and the g-tech takes an instantaneous speed. Your not going to gain 10mph in 100ft at 100mph.
Jeff
Oh did I mention that was measured with a g-tech? I could never back that time up, I run an bunch of 13.4's though forgot mph, but it was in the same range. Real world dragstrip gave a best of 13.59@102.85, summer time though, temps were in the high 70's low 80's. This and a few other experiences with the g-tech tells me that the times are pretty close, mph however reads high.
Don't believe the BS line that the dragstrip averages the speed over the last 100ft and the g-tech takes an instantaneous speed. Your not going to gain 10mph in 100ft at 100mph.
Jeff
GTECH is DEAD accurate
Originally posted by SPOautos
That makes all the difference in the world!!!!!!!
G-Tech isnt that accurate, there are to many things to affect the time/mph
Later,
STEPHEN
That makes all the difference in the world!!!!!!!
G-Tech isnt that accurate, there are to many things to affect the time/mph
Later,
STEPHEN
There's a secret to how the GTECH HP tests need to be done, and it seems very few people know, cuz it doesn't tell you how to do so in the instruction manual! Once you learn the trick, you can get dead consistent GTECH runs with the dyno! Albeit it took me awhile to figure the proper technique.
Someone needs to get AnthonyNYC on this thread. He ran 11.1 @ 122 with stock turbos. You can go check out his timeslips @ http://www.rx7s.com/
Originally posted by rynberg
That's funny, on their website, the first performance mod under Tony's car is KKK Single Turbo.....
That's funny, on their website, the first performance mod under Tony's car is KKK Single Turbo.....
Re: GTECH is DEAD accurate
Originally posted by Apexi
Sorry...I beg to differ. I've spent lots of time on the dyno doing wide lambda tuning, and after every session I'd do back to back GTECH runs. I could ALWAYS get the same rwhp reading within +/- a few RWHP. Over and over again, it was dead consistent with the dyno everytime
Sorry...I beg to differ. I've spent lots of time on the dyno doing wide lambda tuning, and after every session I'd do back to back GTECH runs. I could ALWAYS get the same rwhp reading within +/- a few RWHP. Over and over again, it was dead consistent with the dyno everytime
I am running pettit cold air intake, balanced, blueprinted and ported stock turbos, same on engine with 3mm HD seals custom ecu, pettit downpipe, midpipe and exhaust, 8.5 lb flywheel with act extreme clutch, I have removed air pump, ac, pass seat, stereo, spare tire and most of the useless interior.
Re: GTECH is DEAD accurate
Originally posted by Apexi
Sorry...I beg to differ. I've spent lots of time on the dyno doing wide lambda tuning, and after every session I'd do back to back GTECH runs. I could ALWAYS get the same rwhp reading within +/- a few RWHP. Over and over again, it was dead consistent with the dyno everytime .
There's a secret to how the GTECH HP tests need to be done, and it seems very few people know, cuz it doesn't tell you how to do so in the instruction manual! Once you learn the trick, you can get dead consistent GTECH runs with the dyno! Albeit it took me awhile to figure the proper technique.
Sorry...I beg to differ. I've spent lots of time on the dyno doing wide lambda tuning, and after every session I'd do back to back GTECH runs. I could ALWAYS get the same rwhp reading within +/- a few RWHP. Over and over again, it was dead consistent with the dyno everytime .
There's a secret to how the GTECH HP tests need to be done, and it seems very few people know, cuz it doesn't tell you how to do so in the instruction manual! Once you learn the trick, you can get dead consistent GTECH runs with the dyno! Albeit it took me awhile to figure the proper technique.
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