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Old 03-20-08, 12:09 AM
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What are you guys doing with your console AC button after deleting the ACl??

Hey guys,



So now that i am AC free i am feeling pretty good, putting the engine back in should be a breeze. All of my under dash AC stuff has being removed as well!


However there is still one last remaining dilemma... what the hell should i do with the A/C button that is left on my console like a soar thumb?!?!



What are some of the creative uses you guys have made from this button?



I was going to try and use it to activate something cool, like a death ray that vaporizes traffic jams or to activate my direct anti matter injection haha But see i would still be left with the letters 'A/C' on that button... so both of these cant work...



Well i got thinking about the single turbo setup i want next winter...and came up with this:


A/C = Activate Chaos!!!!


When pressed this button would activate a valve in the exhaust system that would dump the down pipe to the pavement, similar to a header bucket on a hot rod or something.


See figure 1.0 below





Now this 'valve' is not so much a valve as a flapper door... i have no clue how it is going to work but i think this would get a great use for this damn A/C button on my dash!


This is only a preliminary design, but basically the idea is that i want the exhaust to flow really well in both settings. So the first thing that came to mind was a flapper.




Anyways that is what i came up with.



Let the ideas flow!



Regards,



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Have you had a few 's ?
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no he's just canadian.
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........Same thing....

:Edit: did I say that out loud?
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In the U.S., especially in the south, you need your A/C so I can't help you there. Although I deleted it in the Miata. At 90 MPH in a convertible, you can't feel much anyway.

Here is an idea (yes, I have been drinking): A/C, Anti ****. This would involve an ejector seat on the passenger side that would eject any really bad dates through the sunroof.
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Originally Posted by mikeric
In the U.S., especially in the south, you need your A/C so I can't help you there. Although I deleted it in the Miata. At 90 MPH in a convertible, you can't feel much anyway.

Here is an idea (yes, I have been drinking): A/C, Anti ****. This would involve an ejector seat on the passenger side that would eject any really bad dates through the sunroof.
Ahhh yessss..... The old eject0-seat0 "Aye"! I like I like
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With a little bit of varsol, the letters AC rub right off.
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NOS button!

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What you are describing is and ecutout. Sounds like a good idea for the AC switch:

http://www.racereadyperformance.com/

Here is what it would sound like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29fAxkuoBxA&feature=user
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^ beat me to it. Apexi makes an ECV, exhaust cut out valve, but its manually operated with a cable. There are a few others that make remote cutouts. I doubt any of them would stand up to a rotartys exhaust for very long, though.
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^ Also changing the back pressure drastically like that would not be a good idea in my opinion, unless you had tuning for both situations.
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Leave it there and use it to turn fans on when your temps get high. I did'nt eliminate any wiring so it still works.
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Originally Posted by Tanjo
^ beat me to it. Apexi makes an ECV, exhaust cut out valve, but its manually operated with a cable. There are a few others that make remote cutouts. I doubt any of them would stand up to a rotartys exhaust for very long, though.
The Race Ready unit is warranted for life and it's meant to take high high temps.

You should also tune for the ecutout. If not, possible boom!
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Originally Posted by impactwrench
Leave it there and use it to turn fans on when your temps get high. I did'nt eliminate any wiring so it still works.
Thats exactly what I did, removed the A/C and use the switch to kick the fans on higher.
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Some good posts/ideas here.



But i still like my Activate Chaos idea



Im not sure how the flapper will work but ill have to figure it out.




=Ben
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Originally Posted by phantom works
Thats exactly what I did, removed the A/C and use the switch to kick the fans on higher.
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A/C Button

If you have a button that has the letters A/C written on why don't you install an air conditioner system in your car to maintain cool in the summer.


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Originally Posted by RXtacy
^ Also changing the back pressure drastically like that would not be a good idea in my opinion, unless you had tuning for both situations.
Are you kidding.....Thats a GREAT thing. No back pressure in a turbo 3rotor is just what the Doctor ordered!

If (when) the car is tuned through the RPM rang then it's tuned for an ecutout....It should open either by RPM or TPS so it's only under full throttle when it takes place.

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Originally Posted by internal comsucktion engi
Are you kidding.....Thats a GREAT thing. No back pressure in a turbo 3rotor is just what the Doctor ordered!

If (when) the car is tuned through the RPM rang then it's tuned for an ecutout....It should open either by RPM or TPS so it's only under full throttle when it takes place.

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If he is talking about an ecutout that is included in his tune then yes you are right. However my understanding is the Apexi cutout that was mentioned earlier is manual, and when all back pressure suddenly dissapears and there is not tuning to compensate obviously your are going to overboost which is a serious problem. I was simply warning him to make sure he had the tuning to support it and took into account the affect it would have on his boost level.
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Originally Posted by RXtacy
If he is talking about an ecutout that is included in his tune then yes you are right. However my understanding is the Apexi cutout that was mentioned earlier is manual, and when all back pressure suddenly dissapears and there is not tuning to compensate obviously your are going to overboost which is a serious problem. I was simply warning him to make sure he had the tuning to support it and took into account the affect it would have on his boost level.
Ehhh maybe with the stock twins and wast gate but I do not think you would have any real issues with a larger more efficient manifold/wastgate like Dave has.

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good place for a Start button too
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Originally Posted by sevensix
good place for a Start button too
I was about to say that. Though I think the 4-way button would be a better Start button.
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Originally Posted by RXtacy
If he is talking about an ecutout that is included in his tune then yes you are right. However my understanding is the Apexi cutout that was mentioned earlier is manual, and when all back pressure suddenly dissapears and there is not tuning to compensate obviously your are going to overboost which is a serious problem. I was simply warning him to make sure he had the tuning to support it and took into account the affect it would have on his boost level.
Wire the ecutout into the ECU and have it automatically activate based on boost, TPS, etc. This is how mine works so the ECU controls everything and the tune is right. The Race Ready unit also comes with a manual switch that could replace the AC button so you can scare away wannabe racers. If you did romp on it, the ECU would take over and everything would be fine. This is of course, assuming his ECU can control the ecutout like the Haltech can. On the 3 rotor, an instant shot of 40-50 WHP
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Originally Posted by apexFD
Some good posts/ideas here.



But i still like my Activate Chaos idea



Im not sure how the flapper will work but ill have to figure it out.




=Ben
Earth to Ben, don't reinvent the wheel, it's already done and called an ecutout. Check out Race Ready Performance for high quality warranteed for life units. I've actually met the guy that owns the company and have been to his shop in Dallas. The Race Ready units are exactly what you are describing and are pretty economical. They can be controlled manually or can be wired directly into your ECU. Wire it into the ECU so your tune will be correct. Keep the manual button to play with wannabe racers while sitting at a light.


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