View Poll Results: What HP is ideal?
Leave it stock
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2.82%
300hp
24
33.80%
400hp
30
42.25%
450+hp
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21.13%
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What max HP that still allows car to be 'fun'
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What max HP that still allows car to be 'fun'
I know this is a broad topic... but I have read alot about how the 3rd Gens get to a point where they are no longer much "fun" to drive. So this post is mainly aimed towards people who have modded their ride.
Have you driven a RX7 that had too much HP which made the ride less enjoyable? I am just looking at getting the ideal amount of HP without overdoing it. I want this car to be drivable, not not for commuting to/from work.
Thanks
Have you driven a RX7 that had too much HP which made the ride less enjoyable? I am just looking at getting the ideal amount of HP without overdoing it. I want this car to be drivable, not not for commuting to/from work.
Thanks
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To help explain the poll...
I loved my 2nd Gen RX7... had to sell it to get something more 'practical.' I miss it & want to buy a new 3rd gen. Since those "Fast & Furious" movies came out, it seems like a lot of idiots are 'tricking' out their Civic or Eclipse with a lot of show parts, but leaving the performance parts stock. I do NOT want to be one of those people that buys a "pretty ricer" ... I want my car to have enough power to shut anyone's mouth when they start to say that its another junk "fast & furious ricer"
Hope that explains what I'm after.
I loved my 2nd Gen RX7... had to sell it to get something more 'practical.' I miss it & want to buy a new 3rd gen. Since those "Fast & Furious" movies came out, it seems like a lot of idiots are 'tricking' out their Civic or Eclipse with a lot of show parts, but leaving the performance parts stock. I do NOT want to be one of those people that buys a "pretty ricer" ... I want my car to have enough power to shut anyone's mouth when they start to say that its another junk "fast & furious ricer"
Hope that explains what I'm after.
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I had a 2nd Gen & didn't have many problems (no more than what I would expect with an average car with same miles). Are the 3rd gens a lot more prone to breaking, or is it just that most people are not familirar with the rotory engine & this causes problems?
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RE says 400PS is the limit where you can still be able to control the car , have fun and still have enough power to go fast. I think 400PS is pretty conservative. don't you think?
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Originally Posted by TMadlem84
I had a 2nd Gen & didn't have many problems (no more than what I would expect with an average car with same miles). Are the 3rd gens a lot more prone to breaking, or is it just that most people are not familirar with the rotory engine & this causes problems?
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#9
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Originally Posted by nightzonekids
RE says 400PS is the limit where you can still be able to control the car , have fun and still have enough power to go fast. I think 400PS is pretty conservative. don't you think?
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well...i have a mid 300's FD and now mine will be a 450ish FD. I always ahve the option of turning it to low boost(10PSI) and sit at mid 300s. Mine will be a daily driver for a little while until i get another car. Even in the snow i still like driving it, just have to careful. I do go to the track a lot and race on the highways so for me i do like a lot of HP, but that doesnt mean that i will use it all of the time. Dont have to go WOT all the time. Do whatever you are comfortable with.
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Drivable power is with stock twins at about 325-350whp not more if you go more than it becomes slugish and stoplight comute becomes a pain in the *** literally. Couse moste of the time you wont get out of second gear. If you are looking for more power than that you are facing the realliability question.
A friend of myne had a 99 RX7 that he brought from Japan it had a 3 rotor in it. He was pushing about 950-1000whp it was imposible to drive becouse nomater what gear you were in if you step on it it wuld get you loose. Lounching hard was out of question becouse it would go sideways until you hit 3 gear or so.
I hope it helps you make the right choice
A friend of myne had a 99 RX7 that he brought from Japan it had a 3 rotor in it. He was pushing about 950-1000whp it was imposible to drive becouse nomater what gear you were in if you step on it it wuld get you loose. Lounching hard was out of question becouse it would go sideways until you hit 3 gear or so.
I hope it helps you make the right choice
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I would chime in at the 300-350 mark on stock twins and stock fuel.
When I get another one in the future I'll stick with DP and a RB Catback.
I would chime in at the 300-350 mark on stock twins and stock fuel.
When I get another one in the future I'll stick with DP and a RB Catback.
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Originally Posted by rotarycrazy
A friend of myne had a 99 RX7 that he brought from Japan it had a 3 rotor in it. He was pushing about 950-1000whp it was imposible to drive becouse nomater what gear you were in if you step on it it wuld get you loose. Lounching hard was out of question becouse it would go sideways until you hit 3 gear or so.
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Originally Posted by TMadlem84
Sorry if this is a stupid question... what "RE" says 400PS is the limit (what does RE mean)... & what does PS stand for? Thanks
Ironically in German, it stands for PferdeStarke , which literally means horse power. It also is designated PS and I think it is 1 to 1 conversion. So be careful what country you are in.
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Originally Posted by iceman4357
well...i have a mid 300's FD and now mine will be a 450ish FD. I always ahve the option of turning it to low boost(10PSI) and sit at mid 300s. Mine will be a daily driver for a little while until i get another car. Even in the snow i still like driving it, just have to careful. I do go to the track a lot and race on the highways so for me i do like a lot of HP, but that doesnt mean that i will use it all of the time. Dont have to go WOT all the time. Do whatever you are comfortable with.
I am sorry, but I find it disturbing that you drive your FD in the snow. IMO, that is an atrocity.
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Originally Posted by LUV94RX7
Get Racelogic Traction Control. With high powered FDs it can save your life and car .
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A semi rig moved over forcing him to go into the wall doing about 160+ (people from suraunding areas should know the big *** concrete dividers that they have on I85 going to Atlanta) thats what the cops sead. Its totaled beiond any kind of repairs. The really sad part is that he was trying to sell it.
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Originally Posted by rotarycrazy
Its too late now he totaled it about 3 weeks ago coming back from Atlanta GA.
A semi rig moved over forcing him to go into the wall doing about 160+ (people from suraunding areas should know the big *** concrete dividers that they have on I85 going to Atlanta) thats what the cops sead. Its totaled beiond any kind of repairs. The really sad part is that he was trying to sell it.
A semi rig moved over forcing him to go into the wall doing about 160+ (people from suraunding areas should know the big *** concrete dividers that they have on I85 going to Atlanta) thats what the cops sead. Its totaled beiond any kind of repairs. The really sad part is that he was trying to sell it.
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I'd say the minute you ditch the twins in favor of a single it becomes a "drag" car as oposed to a sports car and is probably not as satisfying to drive.
Absolute horseshit. You either have never driven a singled car or cannot drive a singled car. They are WAY more fun then a twin. Not to mention a assload of fun on a road course. Drag racing is for pussies that are afraid to turn.
Try riding in a well built single turbo car and then tell me you think it is no good. The reliability of the turbo system alone is enough to switch. Not too mention how much harder they pull. Sorry you are wrong.
Absolute horseshit. You either have never driven a singled car or cannot drive a singled car. They are WAY more fun then a twin. Not to mention a assload of fun on a road course. Drag racing is for pussies that are afraid to turn.
Try riding in a well built single turbo car and then tell me you think it is no good. The reliability of the turbo system alone is enough to switch. Not too mention how much harder they pull. Sorry you are wrong.
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Originally Posted by BigIslandSevens
Absolute horseshit. You either have never driven a singled car or cannot drive a singled car. They are WAY more fun then a twin. Not to mention a assload of fun on a road course. Drag racing is for pussies that are afraid to turn.
Try riding in a well built single turbo car and then tell me you think it is no good. The reliability of the turbo system alone is enough to switch. Not too mention how much harder they pull. Sorry you are wrong.
Try riding in a well built single turbo car and then tell me you think it is no good. The reliability of the turbo system alone is enough to switch. Not too mention how much harder they pull. Sorry you are wrong.
I must say the only singled FD I've driven seemed quite laggy but perhaps it wasn't set up well.
I just picked up a mk3 supra and even it seems to on/offish in the twisties for me sometimes. But it is my first turbod car.
Anyways,I've always liked the way the seq. twins felt in the FD.
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Originally Posted by tsmysak1
PS is the Japanese power unit. It is real close to horsepower, but I don't remember what the conversion is. It is not 1 to 1. I think you would have to ask a Japanese friend to get the correct pronunciation.
Ironically in German, it stands for PferdeStarke , which literally means horse power. It also is designated PS and I think it is 1 to 1 conversion. So be careful what country you are in.
Ironically in German, it stands for PferdeStarke , which literally means horse power. It also is designated PS and I think it is 1 to 1 conversion. So be careful what country you are in.
What is different is the reference base gross, net, etc. With Standards socities such as SAE, DIN, JIC ... all are similar but alittle different due to metric / imperial round off (see below). Car companies use SAE net in US, DIN (PS) in germany and JIC (PS) in Japan, probable not more than 5 Hp diff. between them; unlike US Gross Hp figures of the 60's ...bare engine, no auxillary equipment such as water pumps, alternators, fans.
Horsepower is a measurement of the ability to perform work. One SAE horse is the ability to lift 33,000 lbs one foot in one minute. One DIN horse is the ability to lift 450000 kg one cm in one minute. For the same power the SAE measurement is thus 98.629% of the metric DIN measurement.