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dhahlen 03-22-05 07:05 PM

WHat the hell did this? JAcked up Twins =P
 
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THought you guys might want a look at this.

My friend got his 7 (94 FD R2) for 8k, he didn't even look at the car... like an idiot.

Well... boost problems, oil leaks, etc etc... anyway... these are what his turbos looked like... well at least his primary, his secondary looked fine. My twins are going into this ride since I Am going single.. there is a pic of his turbo, my turbo, and my single next to the twins. ANyway... some pretty rough shit.... maybe a rock or some crap?

ANyway, enjoy...

the_glass_man 03-22-05 07:14 PM

FOD!

dhahlen 03-22-05 07:14 PM

haha, FOD... thats not a word I want to hear on leave... haha

Jayseven 03-22-05 07:15 PM

damn that sucks

dhahlen 03-22-05 07:19 PM

He's lucky he got the 7 when I was doing my single conversion. I Just saw a set of twins go on ebay for $800, wtf was up with that? My twins were new and only have 13k on them, so he's getting a smokin deal for $300 =P

saburo 03-22-05 07:19 PM

looks like a small rock or other piece of debris got sucked into the turbo inlet.

kuroi FD 03-22-05 07:22 PM

maybe an apex seal..

mtmetzger 03-22-05 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by kuroi FD
maybe an apex seal..

That's what I was thinking...

dhahlen 03-22-05 07:29 PM

hrmm, his engine seems to be working fine aside from the oil leaks and boost deal, althought it was burning some white smoke from the engine. Once he gets his shit put back together I'll recommend a compression test =P

MR_Rick 03-22-05 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by dhahlen
haha, FOD... thats not a word I want to hear on leave... haha

SH*t I'm not even on leave and I don't want to heard the word FOD since that what we have done for the past 2 days, FOD'D 2 engines this week so far.

rynberg 03-22-05 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by kuroi FD
maybe an apex seal..

An apex seal hitting the COMPRESSOR wheel?

Kento 03-22-05 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by rynberg
An apex seal hitting the COMPRESSOR wheel?

Damn, rynberg beat me to it...

dhahlen 03-22-05 07:36 PM

they get thrown out the exhaust, I suppose they wouldn't even make it up there... unless it flew in through the stock airbox =P I've seen some weird shit... "APEX SEAL BLOWS OFF UIM, AND LOOPS BACK AROUND INTO TURBO INTAKE!" I saw a woman that was 8 feet tall once... anything is possible =P

Cgotto6 03-22-05 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Kento
Damn, rynberg beat me to it...

Haha, me too. I was scrolling down, and hoping that nobody was gonna say it...

jimlab 03-22-05 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by rynberg
An apex seal hitting the COMPRESSOR wheel?

No, but a nut dropped down the intake would make a handy substitute... :p:

ijneb 03-22-05 08:05 PM

8k for a 94 (in good condition?) isnt bad.
Thats what I wish I would have done now, but a blown motor and a roller, rebuild the motor and start fresh.

dhahlen 03-22-05 08:17 PM

I told him to wait... lol. HE failed emissions horribly... when he brought it over to me I looked down at his o2 sensor... the cable was ripped out of it... oh well, I guess we'll figure out the engine deal sooner or later, lol.

zmarko 03-22-05 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by dhahlen
they get thrown out the exhaust, I suppose they wouldn't even make it up there... unless it flew in through the stock airbox =P I've seen some weird shit... "APEX SEAL BLOWS OFF UIM, AND LOOPS BACK AROUND INTO TURBO INTAKE!" I saw a woman that was 8 feet tall once... anything is possible =P

The magic apex seal theory as he drove by the grassy knoll.

Jodeny 03-22-05 08:26 PM

Most likely it was caused by unfiltered air getting by the filter. The dust and dirt particles eat away at the blades.
John

ijneb 03-22-05 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jodeny
Most likely it was caused by unfiltered air getting by the filter. The dust and dirt particles eat away at the blades.
John

And if thats the case, they have been eating away at the rotors/apex seals/housings and the hot side of the turbo. But the blades in the first picture, thats not the case. There was something big in there beating on those blades.

Still- it wasnt that bad of a deal as long as the rest of the car is in good shape. If he would have paid 12-15k for it in that condition, that would be bad.

dgeesaman 03-22-05 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by Jodeny
Most likely it was caused by unfiltered air getting by the filter. The dust and dirt particles eat away at the blades.
John

If by dirt particle you mean an M6 nut, I agree.

Siltation erosion doesn't break pieces off the leading edge. Those appear to be brittle fractures, probably caused by a nut or something nasty.

Dave

Jodeny 03-22-05 10:04 PM

Let me take a closer look....hold on.
John'

Jodeny 03-22-05 10:06 PM

Both of you are correct. I didn't click on the pic to look. The blades are actually broken...not worn. Maybe a honduh rock was sucked in there.
John

dhahlen 03-23-05 01:39 AM

did you just say honduh rock?

BIO3M 03-23-05 01:47 AM

I had a friend that somehow left a nut in his intake tube then reassembled everything and started off down the road. Needless to say thats exactly what it looked like maybe alittle worse. maybe it was an acorn? anyone else seen that thread :)

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ighlight=acorn

dhahlen 03-23-05 01:56 AM

BWGHAGAGHAHAHAHHAHA that's some funny shit =)

kuroi FD 03-23-05 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by rynberg
An apex seal hitting the COMPRESSOR wheel?

sorry big guy jump down my throat the pic is dark it looked like the exhaust side.

DamonB 03-23-05 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by kuroi FD
maybe an apex seal..

Only if there was a car driving by which was spewing them out...


Originally Posted by kuroi FD
sorry big guy jump down my throat the pic is dark it looked like the exhaust side.

The exhaust side of the turbos face eachother inside the spot where the downpipe attaches. You cannot see the exhaust turbines without a flashlight or taking them apart. The wheels themselves also look completely different.

RedR1 03-23-05 11:13 AM

Maybe the previous owner ran it without the airbox. . . . . just sucking air into the accordian pipes for less restriction. . . ?? Weird things happen all the time. .

And totally off topic, dhahlen, the chick in your avitar is totally hypnotizing me. . . . very hot wife/friend/fbuddy :bigthumb:

rynberg 03-23-05 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by kuroi FD
sorry big guy jump down my throat the pic is dark it looked like the exhaust side.

I wasn't jumping down your throat, man. You're going to have to grow a thicker skin to be a member of this forum... :)

adam c 03-23-05 12:17 PM

Maybe the car was going in reverse when it blew the apex seal, and that's why it wrecked the intake wheel. :rlaugh: :rlaugh:

WaLieN 03-23-05 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by kuroi FD
maybe an apex seal..

:confused: :confused: :confused: The last time I checked, Apex seals would go out the exhaust.

Kento 03-23-05 03:39 PM

Umm...I take it you didn't read much of this thread...

GoodfellaFD3S 03-23-05 04:29 PM

The majority of FD owners have no clue what their turbos look like, most likely b/c they have never seen a set off of the car.

At the shop I used to show customers old stock turbos we had laying around all the time. It's to be expected, really. How many people on this forum know anything about motor internals? Probably even less. Hell, when I bought this car back in 1998 I had no idea where the damn spark plugs were, let alone how to clearance side seals or properly set in an inner coolant seal :D

dhahlen 03-23-05 07:07 PM

blah blah blah, keep talkin captain... thats all you officers are good for... haha, and what the hell are you doing in new jersey, when the hell did you get there... what happened to tx? maybe i'm thinking of someone else... hrmm yeah i am about ot post some pics of my project, haha what a freakin mess my engine is...

OneRotor 03-23-05 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by dhahlen
hrmm, his engine seems to be working fine aside from the oil leaks and boost deal, althought it was burning some white smoke from the engine. Once he gets his shit put back together I'll recommend a compression test =P

if it's in that kind of shape, i wouldn't even bother putting it back together...go and rent a coolant system tester and check out if you have bad o-rings. white smoke from the engine normally means a rebuild. that, oil leaks, the turbos, the o2 sensor, you guys have your work cut out for you, but it should be a fun project.

Jim

dhahlen 03-23-05 07:44 PM

well, i found the source of the white smoke... oil dripped down onto the cat.. and it was burning off causing the smoke to come up the engine bay... his engine seems fine for now =P MUAHAHHAA (Dr. Evil LAugh)

Chaosx1 03-23-05 08:19 PM

Haha sorry but what's FOD?

dhahlen 03-23-05 08:27 PM

Foreign Object Damage =P

Toadman 03-23-05 08:50 PM

They do FOD walk-downs on carrier decks/runways looking for anything that can get sucked into the perfectly-balanced turbine blades.

I think he was following a certain green eclipse when it's flooring busted loose. :D

DGblk93 03-23-05 08:53 PM

I heard a Haines Beefy T can do that to a turbo....

GoodfellaFD3S 03-23-05 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by DGblk93
I heard a Haines Beefy T can do that to a turbo....

Speaking of which, where has 93BlackFD aka Brian Thompson been lately? That little weasel owes me some parts......

GoodfellaFD3S 03-23-05 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by dhahlen
blah blah blah, keep talkin captain... thats all you officers are good for... haha, and what the hell are you doing in new jersey, when the hell did you get there... what happened to tx? maybe i'm thinking of someone else... hrmm yeah i am about ot post some pics of my project, haha what a freakin mess my engine is...

Negative, private snuffy :D. no more texas, i now work in midtown manhattan but retain ownership in my shop. The FD and FC are rockin and rollin in the northeast now :bigthumb:

dhahlen 03-23-05 10:11 PM

Private SNuffy? LOL - you have a lot to learn about manners El Capitan... haha. Damn, now you're even futher, I could have made it to texas sometime... haha

OneRotor 03-24-05 01:54 AM

if that's the compressor side of the turbo, you should just rip apart the engine for the hell of it, because whatever did that to the turbo prolly fooked your engine's internals. how many blades have parts missing? something pretty big hit that wheel, and all those parts got tossed through the intercooler and into the engine...you'd be EXTREMELY LUCKY if you avoided internal motor damage. i personally think that's a good enough reson for a rebuild, port job, new seals, 99 spec/BNR stage 3 twins (sequential, of course), etc., etc., but that's just me...

dhahlen 03-24-05 02:43 AM

there was also a ton of sand in his intercooler... and oil in the pipes too... compression check will be necessary, i dont want to break the bad news to him if he has to rebuild... bullshit, fuck yeah i do.. it all comes with owning an FD, lol

dhahlen 03-31-05 03:51 PM

Oh, friend found 2 long ass pieces of metal sitting in his intercooler piping, luckily it didn't fly into the engine... wonder if he still has it, might get some pics, lol.

riptor 03-31-05 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by hondasr4kids
SH*t I'm not even on leave and I don't want to heard the word FOD since that what we have done for the past 2 days, FOD'D 2 engines this week so far.

what A/C do u work on..?
what branch

Jodeny 03-31-05 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by dhahlen
there was also a ton of sand in his intercooler... and oil in the pipes too... compression check will be necessary, i dont want to break the bad news to him if he has to rebuild... bullshit, fuck yeah i do.. it all comes with owning an FD, lol


What kind of air filter was he using.
John

dhahlen 03-31-05 09:14 PM

stock air filter


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