Wouldn't that be restrictive?

 

Not if there was stretch armstrong resin

 

If you don't wanna go for the UIM, how about FMIC tubing, or some Elbows like the greddy one?

 

belly pans. belly pans. belly pans. there's 3 votes.

 

well Feed does have a UIM cover.. but its pretty expensive..

 

I like carbon fiber when it serves a purpose, i.e. hood, body panel etc. Putting it on top of stuff just doesnt really make any sence. If anything its ADDING weight to the car. Plus it doesnt hurt to paint it. The only reason you seem them unpainted is most of these honda drivers dont have the cash to paint the CF hood. You wouldnt put a steel hood on unpainted. Just my .02

 

Just throwing somthing out there, I was thinking a CF ABS heat sheild would look nice and clean up a little bit.

 

seatbelt, cupholder and how about cig lighter

 

I like carbon fiber when it actually serves a purpose for increased performance. For those who like the look of CF, hey, that's fine. But any CF piece that has any type of decent structural integrity requires the fabric to be "pre-pegged", meaning that it has the proper resins already "pre-impregnated" in the fabric, and the component must be molded in an autoclave to ensure there are no air pockets and density is uniform throughout the molding of the piece. This is hugely expensive to produce, obviously. Regular CF fabric used in all these cheaper (well, relatively speaking) parts needs to be reinforced with another fabric like kevlar or (wouldn't you know it...) fiberglass, and needs additional resin to maintain any type of decent strength, because without pre-pegging the fabric and specifically molding the part in an autoclave, a layer of CF behaves basically like a single layer of fiberglass (with basically more weight because of the additional layers and resin needed), and can be snapped in half like a twig.

Too many people think that just because a part is "carbon fiber", that it is far superior in strength and weight to anything made of a different material.

 

And a front undertray, radiator ducts, etc. All of these are flat and easy to produce.

 

We are interested in reproducing an already designed object that has already been proven to be effective or fit a certain part. I wouldn't want to have to fabricate something because it would take too much time to test the product for effeciency and safety. He has a facility to use. The quality should be good, since he is not just doing out of his garage.

 

Hell ya, underbody panelling, that would be awesome. I would buy it.

 

Why?? What advantage would this provide. It might be slightly lighter than the plastic, but not much. Strength isn't important in that location. No one is going to see it because of its location, so looks are not important.

A CF belly pan sounds like a HUGE waste of money to me.

 

How about a copy of the 99 spec fromt lip spoiler, and maby incorperate the under pan with it.

 

I just ordered:

scoot style CF hood


carbon creations c-west style CF bumper


carbon creations CF fenders


haha thanks insurance company!

 

I don't mean a front undertray, I mean a full underbody panelling, completely smoothing out the underbody, or at least covering the exhaust and tranny tunnel. This would provide a HUGE aerodynamic advantage, especially with the RE rear diffuser. It's not about looks, if the CF was somewhere people could see it, I would paint it anyway. And why not make it out of CF, he's asking what parts people would want, and that's what I would like.

BTW, how is that CF intake basically impossible to heat soak, the CF yarns I work with hold tons of heat, yes it dissipates quickly, but as long as it's exposed to heat, it holds it well. Doesn't seem to resist it like other materials (i.e. aramid, vectran etc.).

 

aerodynamics....

didnt you ever see that mercedes TV ad for that car w/ the underpanel cover...where they had the car in a wind tunnel to show the bottom had increased aerodynamics to give a smoother high-end ride w/ noise reduction.....yep

 

I think he's asking what advantage it would have over the regular plastic under tray. The answer is there is none.

 

I have not seen that commercial. I find it difficult to believe that this type of aerodynamic device will have any measureable effect on a Cadillac driving down the road at 75 MPH. Sounds more like a marketing gimmick to me. Of course, some people might be gullible enough to believe it.

I can see it making a difference in a high speed race car. Of course, it would have to be designed by someone with an engineering background, and access to really sophisticated testing equipment. I don't think that is going to be the case with what is being described here.

 

Better hope you don't have to traverse any steep driveways, dips, or hit anything with it. ABS-type plastics will just bend and/or gouge; CF will crack, snap, and/or shatter into little bitty pieces...

 

Because you are a cheap bastard.

 

The thermal conductivity of carbon fiber exceeds that of aluminum by almost a factor of two, according to the literature I have available. There are companies that are making CPU heat sinks out of it, so it's certainly not immune to heat soak

There's no data that I can find on the specific heat of carbon fiber composites, although the specific heat of carbon is known to vary widely with temperature and is probably around 0.180 in the temperature range of our engine bay, which is quite a bit under aluminum's 0.902.

If someone has a chunk of cf composite they would like to send me I would be happy to take it to the lab and test the specific heat in a calorimeter.

 

I am not a Cheap Bastard JUST because I don't like carbon fiber.................

However, your point is valid, and difficult to dispute

 

ROFL

 

[QUOTE=adam c]I am not a Cheap Bastard JUST because I don't like carbon fiber.................

iam with you on the belly pan. my platsic oen was scrapped and pushed in form speed bump and toerhe road crap hittign it. now if you ahve a cf one first speed bump you skim tehre goes your cf under tray.