I havent but I would like to if anyone gets their hands on some.

 

Please post those pics!!!!!

 

All those pics your talking about are in the
Yamagugchi/Dinkle book.Its for sale all over the place but I know they have it at speednation.com . Its a must have for any Fd owner.

 

I thought the rt10 viper came out in 94. plus i'd like to add 1997-1993 is 4 years not almost 10. no doubt vettes ripped off the styling but they still look real nice. I've had people tell me they thought I was a vette rolling up untill I got real close

 

Ef-Dee, lmao, i was readin this semi-serious thread and then i saw ur sig...thats some funny **** man..haha

 

The Yamaguchi book is great and is loaded with Rx7 everything! Its a must have....anyways.....I dont know when the viper came out but they were testing a prototype Rx7 in Germany back in late 1990. This was a finished, running version not wind tunnel or flywheel dyno crap....no,no the real deal was up and running. They actually started the project: designing and rendering, etc. in early 1987. Mazda and thier engineers spent many years and alot of hard work to do what they did. From 87' to the selling of the first Rx7's in Japan (91') ...... Rx7's Rock!!!!!!!

 

Please remember that the car originally was released in Japan and other areas in 1991 and is currently on sale in Japan and Australia (possibly others?) as a 2002 model. It can be seen at this website ( http://www.rx-7.mazda.co.jp/ )This is eleven plus years. It was imported into the USA as 1993-1995 model years only from 1992-1995(6?). Some have been accidentally titled as 1992 and 1996. I have heard of a few actual J-spec 1996-98 models brought from Japan and titled in America, but only a handful.

I have read rumors that it is slated for remodel/redesign and possible release to the USA in 2004 as a 2005 model year.

This makes for a long run of the same body style with minor fascia and power changes.

Tim

 

There are a lot of cars that "borrow" styling cues from other car manufacturers, it's not really a bad thing, it's a good thing *smiles like DDP* .

A lot of people on here think the C5 is ugly but at the same time say that the C5 stole (if you really want to say stole) designing aspects from the FD, it does look similar to the FD but the large *** in the rear kinda messes it up. Fiberglass wouldn't be my first choice for the body of a car, but hey, whatever works.

 

For those of you that have one, if you were to READ your Yamaguchi book, the FD's body was finalized in 88, and the double bubble was added to the body in 89. The double bubble on the Vuiper's weren't added until the GTS came out. So the REAL question remains, WHEN was the RT/10's body finalized?

 

The only thing I see ugly about it is its ***. It is just SOOO big and flat. I mean, think about it. HOW much thought REALLY went into the design of the rear bumper? It seems little to almost none to me It looks they got to the rear of the car and they said "Ok fok it. We ran out of time"

 

I think the knife that they used for the styling clay broke towards the end so they were just left with a box for the rear of the car...

 

No man. I think the kids just ran out of Play-do

 

is anything ever a "new" design?

not really, the FD borrows considerably from the NSX, and the NSX is a rip off of a Lambo IMO

ferrari and lambo lead the pack in terms of design cues for hard core sports cars....always have

 

The big flat rear end is actually designed to improve the Cd and to reduce lift without using spoilers and wings. Not to say I like the look though...

 

WTF...I don't see a single bit of NSX in the FD. The NSX has very angular lines while the FD doesn't have a straight line on the entire car. Not to mention that the NSX is tail heavy like Lambos. While the FD certainly does not have the long hood and short deck of the 1st gens, I wouldn't call it tail heavy.

 

the front facia of the early NSX and the FD are very similar....look closely at the pics...they definitely borrowed from it

 

When was the first generation NSX introduced? I'm just curious because I doubt much "borrowing" went on since the NSX was around in '91 I believe, but the FD designs had been approved in '87. Mazda skunks might be great automotive designers in their own right (painful build quality), but I don't know about seeing into the future to take some lines.

Just a thought.

 

Its true, but look at a Modena. EXTREMELY elegant yet functional, and you can't tell me GM doesn't have as many resources as Ferrari. I just think they should have put a little more effort into it. If they would have, they wouldn't have to already be worring about the C6.

 

When was the first generation NSX introduced? I'm just curious because I doubt much "borrowing" went on since the NSX was around in '91 I believe, but the FD designs had been approved in '87. Mazda skunks might be great automotive designers in their own right (painful build quality), but I don't know about seeing into the future to take some lines.

so Honda borrowed from Mazda? yeah, give me a break....the original '93 FD brochure refers directly to the NSX as a primary target (competitor)

 

I don't see anything about the NSX in the FD. nothing.

I think you're mistaken.

 

I don't think you understood what I was saying, given that the FD was in development in 86-87 and the NSX did not exist they could not have taken keys from the design of the car. The FD predates the NSX, so how could Mazda have taken anything from something that was not yet in production?


I just said I was curious, I don't know when the first NSX hit the streets, the best I can remember is around 91, at which time the FD had already been completed and put into production for some time.

 

The FD predates the NSX, so how could Mazda have taken anything from something that was not yet in production?

this is an entirely trivial conversation, but I'd really love to see your source citing that the design for the FD was finalized in '86-'87, SIX YEARS prior to production....you're nuts....the Japanese work on a two to three year development cycle, much faster than American automakers....furthermore, Mazda may very well have had access to pre-production designs of the NSX as early as '88 or '89, during early development by Honda

anyone who thinks the front fascia of the FD is not a copy of the NSX is blind...

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...649299-6031211

No conversations are trivial to those whom are involved, this is an entire NG dedicated to a car. Not even the primary car for the vast majority of owners, but a TOY. So, by definition, the majority of these conversations are trivial, but entertaining.

The book listed above brings up the initial design decisions of the car, all of which began in 86 when the first trials of the FC were being done in public. The initial design drawings were put out late that year and early in '87 the design was pretty much finalized. The only changes were in late '89 when the 'double-bubble' was added for drag reduction, and the front markers were made a little different for aesthetic reasons. However, the nose of the car didn't change from the first 'finalized' drawings.

 

ok, I'll take your word for it, I guess, but the similarity is seems too striking to be coincidence

 

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