The VERY LAST FD brought to the US? Or BS??
They claim this is THE LAST FD brought to the States...I coulda sworn someone on the forum said theirs also had a build date in 12/95 and even had a 96 ABS unit...
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...2&aff=national
PS...My FAV part of the ad is this "All inventory HUNDREDS under Blue Book!!!" then look at their asking price lol
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...2&aff=national
PS...My FAV part of the ad is this "All inventory HUNDREDS under Blue Book!!!" then look at their asking price lol
Originally Posted by FDNewbie
They claim this is THE LAST FD brought to the States...I coulda sworn someone on the forum said theirs also had a build date in 12/95 and even had a 96 ABS unit...

There's an 00530 serial number out there somewhere, so this one isn't even the last one in the serial number sequence.
Since the cars weren't imported in order of serial number, it's not even necessarily the last one imported into the U.S. My '95 PEP (00237) wasn't imported and sold/titled until April of 1997, along with another '95 PEP. Because they were imported so late, they were updated with the '96+ ABS.
And finally, it's definitely not the last one sold/titled, because the thread I mentioned above was about the new ~100 mile '95 automatic Marlin (?) Mazda put on Ebay that hadn't been sold/titled yet.
The one from Marlin Mazda is truly a peice. Ive seen it in person, and now I know why people loved these cars when they first came out. Also I think Jimlab is right about the Marlin one being the last FD being sold from a dealership in the US.
Originally Posted by oneflytrini
now I know why people loved these cars when they first came out
interestingly I seem to get more comments and compliments as time goes on....some old guy came up to me yesterday and said "they must have sold a TON of these cars, they are so good looking!"
btw Jim, if you don't mind me asking, what did you pay? tcb100 told me he got his FD brand new for $22k (it's a '93)....amazing
Originally Posted by the ancient words
come again? they didn't sell crap when they first came out...sticker shock I suppose
It might just be me, but seeing an FD in the MAZDA showroom is amazing. Then an FD that was hardly driven still in showroom condition after 10 years is pretty badass. The sticker might have sent people over to the BMW dealerships tho
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Didn't you participate in the thread where this was discussed ad nauseum? 

Since the cars weren't imported in order of serial number, it's not even necessarily the last one imported into the U.S. My '95 PEP (00237) wasn't imported and sold/titled until April of 1997, along with another '95 PEP. Because they were imported so late, they were updated with the '96+ ABS.
Originally Posted by the ancient words
btw Jim, if you don't mind me asking, what did you pay? tcb100 told me he got his FD brand new for $22k (it's a '93)....amazing
Originally Posted by jimlab
No, that's one thing I kept. 

Got any pics of it? (I'm guessing it's visibly different...given that the guys at PFS noticed that my 94 ABS unit was diff from the rest they had seen (on 93s)
Last edited by FDNewbie; Nov 29, 2004 at 12:58 AM.
Originally Posted by FDNewbie
I see they eliminated that heat shield/manifold that was on the 94s and 95s? Between the right edge of the ABS unit and the rest of the engine bay...
The 1995 parts .pdf (Chassis, page 2-L 7) shows that FD31-43-7A0A was replaced with FD31-43-7A0B, and I've yet to find someone else with a 1995 who says their ABS assembly looks like mine.
There was an upgrade in the ABS unit mid-year in 1993, then again for 1994, then another (and the last that I know of) for 1996.
I did a little more research...
The 1993 Chassis parts microfiche lists FD04-43-7A0C replaced by FD04-43-7A0D, supporting the mid-year change. However, 1994 just lists FD04-43-7A0D, indicating that there was no further change until 1995, when the part number FD31-43-7A0A was introduced, which was replaced by FD31-43-7A0B at some point. Or at least that's the way I read it.
Part numbers immediately followed by a second part number in parentheses usually indicate that the part number in parentheses is the replacement and supersedes the original.
The 1993 Chassis parts microfiche lists FD04-43-7A0C replaced by FD04-43-7A0D, supporting the mid-year change. However, 1994 just lists FD04-43-7A0D, indicating that there was no further change until 1995, when the part number FD31-43-7A0A was introduced, which was replaced by FD31-43-7A0B at some point. Or at least that's the way I read it.

Part numbers immediately followed by a second part number in parentheses usually indicate that the part number in parentheses is the replacement and supersedes the original.
Interesting! I've got a dealer copy of the '95 shop manual that came with the '95 Service Highlights book, and it documents a different brake or ABS setup. I haven't studied it that much, but I'll have to look at it and see if they're referring to the newer/different ABS pump.
Do you know if there's any significant difference with the pump? Looks to be smaller, but hard to tell size-wise from the pics.
Dale
Do you know if there's any significant difference with the pump? Looks to be smaller, but hard to tell size-wise from the pics.
Dale
I believe the pump is smaller and the proportioning valve was changed somewhat, but I don't know in what way. My unit is fairly light (I didn't weigh it) and seems to be smaller than previous units that I've seen in '93s and '94s. That was one reason I chose to keep it.
Originally Posted by x605p747R1
Interesting. Thanks Jim for the research.
Does the 96+ ABS unit have any advantages, besides weight?
Does the 96+ ABS unit have any advantages, besides weight?
Originally Posted by 2dark2Bslow
So should I assume that all years of ABS perform equally as well or are there advantages to certain years???
Originally Posted by jimlab
I've never been able to find any information on what was changed, besides the external appearance and (potentially) weight. In fact, I didn't even know mine was different than other '95s until someone commented on a picture I posted and said that it didn't look like theirs. 

Attached are some pictures of the ABS unit in my 95 PEP. It looks to be indentical to yours, but I don't have any pictures of what a 94-95 unit looks like, so I can't be sure. I do know that it is definitely different from the unit that my R1 had. Does it look to be a 96+ unit to you?
My car has a build date of 12/20/95, a release-to-port date of 1/10/96, a release-from-port date of 3/21/96, and an in-service date of 4/11/96.
- Mike





