You got us all excited, where the heck are all the pics!!!

Anthony

 

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yeah its about that time.

 

I definately have to see some pictures now

 

Pics!!!!!!!

 

Awesome! Can't wait to see some pics!

 

blingy ring ding til the mother ****** falls off the hook kid

GET SOME DAMN PICs........PRONTO!!!!!

TGM? Titanium Grey Metalic?

 

Just FYI. The CYM paint was not original and the car needed a full paint job regardless. I figured while I was at it I'd make it the color I really wanted. Not to mention that whoever did the prior $8K CYM paint job didn't even pull the seals or glass.... Figure that one out. I don't have the car yet BTW ;o). Soon, very soon.

 

Just got off the phone with the shop. I've decided to pick the car on Tuesday Jan 2nd instead to allow them more time to detail the car. Better to wait a few more days than to create a rush scenario....

 

you're killing us.

 

Word Wanklin U Shouldve Waited To Tell Us...lol

 

This is TGM:

 

You **** tease. I have blue ***** now

 

I've attached 3 shots of the car when it was a bare shell and a couple shots showing the widened 99 spec 17" wheels for good measure. The Burnout flares in the wheel pics have long since been ditched for the metal work. I did this for aesthetics (I wanted to keep an OEM look) and structural integrity. The front fenders have been rolled and removable, fiberglass weel well liners have been made for the front to allow ample room for the 275mm tires. I haven't seen the rears yet but my understanding is that they did somewhat of a miny tub to extend the existing wells.

If the body guys haven't trashed the burnouts I'll be putting them up for sale shortly. Maurice, you have dibs if you want them.

A little side note: I have also had some custom OEM-looking badges made for the car. I drew the design and the emblems were CNC'd from metalic looking plastic and red high sheen plastic. I'll post pics of those later, but I'm really happy about the way that they turned out ;o)

 

You had stock '99+ wheels widened? What kind of guarantee did they give you about the durability of welding to cast aluminum?

No offense, but my life is worth a bit more to me than being able to run a P315 on a stock style wheel. I would have bought properly sized wheels.

 

The company that I had perform the work has used this same process on cast alloy wheels for years with no issues. The aluminum extension rings which were welden in are of a slightly thicker gauge than the rim halves and the welds are as stout, deep and clean as they come. The rim was cut in half then the ring was welded in on a jig while the fabricator made sure to constantly check and recheck that everything was properly aligned. The resultant weel weights, I don't have the figures on hand, were not noticeably heavier, and the custom hub/wheelcentric spacers are light as well. The guys that I had mount mounted my tires were shocked to see the wheels balance out perfectly.

Don't knock it until you try it ;o)

 

On cars with a 170+ mph top speed?

Good info. Just FYI, aluminum welds are always weaker than the material on either side.

 

Of all the people on the forum to make this comment WOW

With all due respect of course

 

Not that speed means anything but I know what you mean and the answer is yes. This process is has been used on drag cars that lay down a lot more torque than I have plans for.

Good info as well. The fabricator tried to compensate for this with the thicker center rings allowing for more massive welds. I could not make my current powerplant powerful enough to break these wheels if I wanted to.

How's your theater coming along by the way?

 

Hi Fritz. Have I ever compromised on safety with any of the changes I've made to my car, or is this just because I still believe the weight of stock turbos should include the required cast iron exhaust manifold?

Of course.

Unfortunately, I'm one of the few people on this forum who understands that a P315 doesn't offer significantly more traction than a P285, given equivalent tread design and compound, so to go to lengths like this to fit a wider tire doesn't make any sense to me. The reason wider tires are associated with better traction is because they're heavier and harder to spin... not necessarily because they grip any better.

Wanklin, best of luck with your wheels and your car. I'm looking forward to seeing pictures of your fender mods.

 

I honestly didn't mean any offense. I simply regard some risks as not worth taking, and I hope for your sake that there's none involved with that mod. Enough people die in these cars as it is.

Fine, thanks.

 

OOPs I misread your comment and thought you were referring to him wasting his time not his life/mortality so I'll proceed to insert foot into mouth

Regarding the tire thing if he's making 400 rwhp he'll use those 315mm tires no problem. Remember I have some experience with wheels and tires.

Which is why I was ribbing you because to me you guys are both crazy *** fools building these wild projects but I sure love following the mix and hope his and your car both come out beauuuteeefulll!

AND for the last DAMN time you don't include the exhaust manifold with the twin turbos SHEEESH

 

I understand. I did quite a bit of research on this procedure before pulling the trigger on the project. If I thought I was putting myself at risk I would not have proceeded with it, no matter what. Fortunately, based on my research I have concluded that the widening is safe. I understand how people may be hesitant to take this route based on intuitive skepticism.

Ofcourse you are correct, but the same logic applies in reverse. a 285's contact patch is not such a huge leap from a stock 255 either. It's a game of nickles and dimes any way you look at it, there's no way to objectively classify what is and is not worth while.

I appreciate the kind words. I'm amped to get this car back home. Once I do, I'll be sure to snap some pics and post them ;o).

 

I'm cluttering up the thread, but do you have any links that go over this is detail?

I've heard alot of different theories about this over time and I'd like to know your take.

 

You of all people don't need any help with this concept

If we could fit 335s we would run faster laps. Z06 boys are running 335s all the way around and they have less power and just a little more weight than us single turbo folks and I'd bet they'd go bigger if they could. Sure eventually there's a equalling out but 315 on a high power FD is nothing they have to worry about spinning. **** I couldn't even drive my last single turbo car at 14 psi without spinning through the first 2 gears and I was running sticky 285s and that's in a straight line. Imagine how much faster you could go in a come out of each turn with more tire.

However the street is completely different and if Rob's building this car for the street then he's really a wild man lol. On the street I don't like running more than 255s because you have to go too fast to have any fun.

 

It's pretty intuitive, as long as you have a basic understanding of physics. The 315s have an additional 1.3" of contact patch over 285s on average. By spreading the weight of the car (mass x acceleration due to gravity), and therefore the normal force (can be called pressure x area), accross a wider contact patch you effectively reduce the force of friction (normal force x coefficient of friction) per unit of rubber.

The net friction force is the same for all tire, regardless of tread width, but wear is more rapid on a narrow tire. The main advantage of big meats is treadlife and the ability to use softer compounds. With that being said, I stand behind my decision for the same reason that Jim put 19" blingers on his FD ;o) Because I can....

If you're wondering why dragsters use such wide tires... It's because the swell-to-deswell change in tire diameter acts as a final gear reduction. There's also the issue of a different type of friction on drag strips which results from the stickiness of the track tires and road surface which creates frictional force which is to a large extent independent of Normal Force.