Is there anything else that can cause blue smoke to come out of exhaust?
05-26-02, 03:56 PM
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Is there anything else that can cause blue smoke to come out of exhaust?
I just had put in new turbos and rebuilt exhaust manifold day before yesterday and for the first start up today I saw light blue colored smoke coming out consistently for like 3 minutes. What the **** can it be!!!! the turbos are brand new and the exhaust manifold is rebuilt!!!! I need to know what the **** is causing the blue smoke!!!!!I spent 3400 dollars on the turbos and new actuators and everything and I still have the same problem!!! I have both of my cats off but is the exhaust light blue when the catalytic converters are off!!!! I dont know what other possiblites can it be!! I mean the oil pressure is normal and the oil dip stick reading is full so I mean what did I get a pair of faulty turbos!! 
05-26-02, 04:24 PM
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I guess next time before just guessing and spending $3400.00 you should take it to a GOOD rotary mechanic. Which we told you to do. Even if there is not one close to you, to have your car shipped to one, or to drive to one and get your car fixed probably would have cost less than $3400.00.
All in all don't be pissed because you spent $3400.00 and your problems not fixed. The spending of the $3400.00 was your own mistake.
I plus alot of other people have told you before, I recommend you take the car to a mechanic to get it looked at before spending any more $$$.
All in all don't be pissed because you spent $3400.00 and your problems not fixed. The spending of the $3400.00 was your own mistake.
I plus alot of other people have told you before, I recommend you take the car to a mechanic to get it looked at before spending any more $$$.
05-26-02, 04:28 PM
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I dont need lectures here, I need a diagnoses. These mechanics are good for they are licensed through racing beat. By the way its not the coolant o rings, its ****** blue smoke! not white smoke. Now could it be that the oil metering pump is pumping to much oil into the combustion chamber?
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05-26-02, 04:37 PM
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Question: Why not let the "Mechanics Liscensed from Racing Beat" figure out what it is, since you're not going to be fixing it yourself anyways?
BTW, your motor has OIL SEALS that could go bad too..
Go buy a Mazda manual and you'll see.
It amazes me how you just spent $3400.00 on new turbos, on a whim that they were the problem(might I add you're pissed that they weren't the problem) and now you want us to guess at what your problem might be so you can waste more money on another whim? We can't tell you what EXACTLY is wrong with your car, we can only tell you what it might be and lead you to things to check out. Which we have already done. Anyone who can tell you EXACTLY what's wrong with your car over the internet in this situation is fully bullshitting you.
BTW, your motor has OIL SEALS that could go bad too..
Go buy a Mazda manual and you'll see.
It amazes me how you just spent $3400.00 on new turbos, on a whim that they were the problem(might I add you're pissed that they weren't the problem) and now you want us to guess at what your problem might be so you can waste more money on another whim? We can't tell you what EXACTLY is wrong with your car, we can only tell you what it might be and lead you to things to check out. Which we have already done. Anyone who can tell you EXACTLY what's wrong with your car over the internet in this situation is fully bullshitting you.
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05-26-02, 04:42 PM
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Buddy if i had oil seals that were going bad then I would be losing oil pressure and my Oil on the dipstick would be low, which means that the engine is burning oil, well guess what thats not happening to me. This is a brand new engine with only 43000k on it, so its no oil seals problem. And your remark about why i dont get a licensed racing beat mechanic? well they are, now what I am trying to say is could it be that the oil from the bad turbos may have access still in the combustion chamber and the access is just spitting all out? I diffinintly dont have a turbo issue because these turbos are brand new and a rebuilt exhaust manifold.
05-26-02, 04:44 PM
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Man I really ****** had it with you black 99, you should just ****** stop replying man, You give no help but ****** yap away with how wrong we are about things, ****** stop replying man your completely useless
05-26-02, 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by RotaryRockeTT
now what I am trying to say is could it be that the oil from the bad turbos may have access still in the combustion chamber and the access is just spitting all out?
now what I am trying to say is could it be that the oil from the bad turbos may have access still in the combustion chamber and the access is just spitting all out?
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05-26-02, 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by RotaryRockeTT
thats not your worry buddy, sounds like to me your interested in the posts i put up haaaaaaa
thats not your worry buddy, sounds like to me your interested in the posts i put up haaaaaaa
Again a great reply from you.. 
Yep again you know everything, you even know where to find a "Mechanic liscensed by Racing Beat" I've been looking for a mechanic that's liscensed by Racing Beat for years. 
But it sounds like Racing Beat might want revoke that liscense soon.BTW: Let's keep the flames to a minimum. You should spend less time worrying about my comments, and more time learning something about your car.
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05-26-02, 08:34 PM
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Blue smoke could mean blueberrys....
Seriously, like others have said you should have properly diagnosed the problem before throwing hardware at it..
Here's a thought, how bout before poppin $3400 on new turbos, disconnecting the any intercooler hose and running it n/a for a while to see if the blue smoke stops....If it's still there it aint ur turbo's.
Point is, is that Im sure there are about 10 different quick and farely simple tests you (or your mechanic) could have done to better get an understanding of the problem.
But You went about it entirely backasswards and then "panic post" and then start cop'in a attitude to people who reply. Not very cool.
Anyway, best of luck tracking down your problem.
Sorry I didnt have the silver bullet your looking for.
Seriously, like others have said you should have properly diagnosed the problem before throwing hardware at it..
Here's a thought, how bout before poppin $3400 on new turbos, disconnecting the any intercooler hose and running it n/a for a while to see if the blue smoke stops....If it's still there it aint ur turbo's.
Point is, is that Im sure there are about 10 different quick and farely simple tests you (or your mechanic) could have done to better get an understanding of the problem.
But You went about it entirely backasswards and then "panic post" and then start cop'in a attitude to people who reply. Not very cool.
Anyway, best of luck tracking down your problem.
Sorry I didnt have the silver bullet your looking for.
05-26-02, 08:55 PM
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Try revving the engine after it's warmed up to 4krpm.
Do you still see smoke?
Does you smoke smell like oil? (Just confirmation since the blue smoke usually indicates oil burning).
If it does smoke after the 4krpm test, most likely your oil seals (oil control o-rings) went bad or it could be the intermediate housing is worn out where the oil seals ride. You won't see any pressure loss since it's a very small leak. The oil leaks through the wear on the housing (or bad oil control o-rings) as the rotor sweeps across the intermediate housing. The leaked oil will get burnt in the combustion process on top of the small amount of oil being injected by the OMP. No real performance loss, but it's annoying to have smoke coming out of your car until you have an engine overhaul.
You can check your OMP for a possible failure, but I think if the electric OMP fails, you'll still have 50% duty cycle of oil injection. I think there is an error code for OMP malfunction if the electrical part fails.
If the turbos are at fault, you will NOT see smoke with the 4krpm test (unless it's real bad like my ceramic ball bearing turbo shaft wobble failure -- bad CHRA).
A compression test will not catch the oil seal wear since it really doesn't cause a loss of compression.
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Do you still see smoke?
Does you smoke smell like oil? (Just confirmation since the blue smoke usually indicates oil burning).
If it does smoke after the 4krpm test, most likely your oil seals (oil control o-rings) went bad or it could be the intermediate housing is worn out where the oil seals ride. You won't see any pressure loss since it's a very small leak. The oil leaks through the wear on the housing (or bad oil control o-rings) as the rotor sweeps across the intermediate housing. The leaked oil will get burnt in the combustion process on top of the small amount of oil being injected by the OMP. No real performance loss, but it's annoying to have smoke coming out of your car until you have an engine overhaul.
You can check your OMP for a possible failure, but I think if the electric OMP fails, you'll still have 50% duty cycle of oil injection. I think there is an error code for OMP malfunction if the electrical part fails.
If the turbos are at fault, you will NOT see smoke with the 4krpm test (unless it's real bad like my ceramic ball bearing turbo shaft wobble failure -- bad CHRA).
A compression test will not catch the oil seal wear since it really doesn't cause a loss of compression.
J
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Alright calm down for a minute man. First, whenever you have work done on the car underhood there is a possibility of smoke from spilled oil or protective grease. Its entirely possible that there was some oil in your exhuast or in the turbo that is leftover from the install. For now I'd drive it around for a week and see if the problem persists, give the stuff and chance to burn off. I had my turbos rebuilt and the mechanic told me it smoked for 15 minutes straight while on the lift because there was a layer from the finish on the surface of the turbos themselves that needed to burn off. If thats not the case, and its not the turbos, it could be the oil control rings, which when they get old will not seal properly until they are warm. It COULD be the OMP, but if the OMP is broken (it will default to 50% injection at all times if this is the case) it will trigger an engine light. Don't be fooled by the fact that the oil level isn't going down, 3 minutes of smoke at startup isn't that much oil, and you could be getting fuel dilution. For now I'd just drive it around for a bit, and also check for oil in your intake, smoke on boost, and any external leaks.
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Originally posted by KILL ALL RX-7'S
why don't u guys shut up,black 99if u don't like him posting,then show it and not reply,hey do u drive a 99 rx-7 or a 99 ecco[**** the spelling]
why don't u guys shut up,black 99if u don't like him posting,then show it and not reply,hey do u drive a 99 rx-7 or a 99 ecco[**** the spelling]
Yeah I drive an "ecco"
You're another smart one. Learn to spell and learn something about RX7's before you join with a username like that. 
You sound just like RotaryRockeTT either it's just a coincidence that you two jackasses are friends. Maybe jackasses flock together? Or you are the same person with an personality crisis.
05-27-02, 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by RotaryRockeTT
i think i am going to cry ****** fagget
i think i am going to cry ****** fagget
a.) Crying because you "jumped the gun" and spent $3400.00 on turbos before you truly knew they were bad. And now the problem isn't fixed.
b.) Starting 45 posts about your problem before you've tried to figure anything out yourself, asking dumbass questions that could be answered with a search, and bitching because no one can tell you EXACTLY what the problem is.
c.) Flaming members who tell you what to take a look at, instead of actually getting motivated and going to work on your car.
05-27-02, 12:10 AM
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What makes you think I done get my hands dirty buddy? I ****** work on my car all the time!!!!! man **** shut up and stop coming in my threads!!!!! I told you to stay out and take your ****** talk and give it to someone else who cares!!!! man your a geek probably an ugly looking one to. Ok mommy I will get my hands dirty, **** man you dont know me and you say **** with no evidence to back it up, **** listen dont come into my threads and give me your big talk. You think you run the show on this forum or something? telling one of the other guys on his post to do a search and ****, **** you the moderator or something? go find another hobby man and stop coming on here and being so air headed.
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Time for the Moderator to Ban "Rotaryrockett" this guy never listens, just clutters up the forum with bunk! I have the feeling this guy has been here before under a different name, and was kicked out then. If you draw a timeline of his posts, I think you will see it is all 
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Many of us genuinely like to assist others on the forum, we may not always be right but we try. Lets put it to a vote!
My vote is to ban "Rotaryrockett".
And your little dog too (Kill All RX7's)
.Many of us genuinely like to assist others on the forum, we may not always be right but we try. Lets put it to a vote!
My vote is to ban "Rotaryrockett".
And your little dog too (Kill All RX7's)
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