Solution to "hollow tin" sounding door
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Originally Posted by IOJINXOI
Thanks for saving me from the cash spent on dynomat. I was actually going to pick some up this week.
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
I would still recommend Dynomat/B-Quiet. Those products also make the door speakers sound much better and kill the road noise rather than just helping with a "hollow door" sound solely.
I couldn't agree more. I did the seam sealer and the door closing sound was a million times better. Then, just a couple weeks ago, I got some insulation and took care of the doors and sunroof... oh my god, the car is so much quieter on the highway. The stereo clarity is MUCH higher, too!
Take care,
Shad
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Originally Posted by Shad Laws
Hello-
I couldn't agree more. I did the seam sealer and the door closing sound was a million times better. Then, just a couple weeks ago, I got some insulation and took care of the doors and sunroof... oh my god, the car is so much quieter on the highway. The stereo clarity is MUCH higher, too!
Take care,
Shad
I couldn't agree more. I did the seam sealer and the door closing sound was a million times better. Then, just a couple weeks ago, I got some insulation and took care of the doors and sunroof... oh my god, the car is so much quieter on the highway. The stereo clarity is MUCH higher, too!
Take care,
Shad
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Originally Posted by WaLieN
Can you give us the details on what you used?
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Use Quiet Car instead!!
Hi guys,
I have a much better solution than DynoMat. It's way too pricey and it weighs too much.
Check out Quiet Car at www.quietcoat.com. The product is a viscoelastic polymer that sprays/paints on the car. It is not a rubberized undercoating, but a material that actually bonds to the surface of the car to eliminate vibrations, thus eliminating sound/noise. I've written up the application and results of the product under:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ight=quietcoat
The bottom line for me was a 14db reduction in noise which is significant. Here is a chart showing the three phases of the project and the results:
For me, the product worked great.
I have a much better solution than DynoMat. It's way too pricey and it weighs too much.
Check out Quiet Car at www.quietcoat.com. The product is a viscoelastic polymer that sprays/paints on the car. It is not a rubberized undercoating, but a material that actually bonds to the surface of the car to eliminate vibrations, thus eliminating sound/noise. I've written up the application and results of the product under:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ight=quietcoat
The bottom line for me was a 14db reduction in noise which is significant. Here is a chart showing the three phases of the project and the results:
For me, the product worked great.
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
I would still recommend Dynomat/B-Quiet. Those products also make the door speakers sound much better and kill the road noise rather than just helping with a "hollow door" sound solely.
I think what is important here, if you have the "pingy" door closing sound, fix it without using dynomat, take advantage of what already works w/o adding weight.
Then if you still don't like the way your speakers sound then add dynomat (or whatever system you want to use) for additional sound deadening.
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Originally Posted by turbojeff
Good point.
I think what is important here, if you have the "pingy" door closing sound, fix it without using dynomat, take advantage of what already works w/o adding weight.
Then if you still don't like the way your speakers sound then add dynomat (or whatever system you want to use) for additional sound deadening.
I think what is important here, if you have the "pingy" door closing sound, fix it without using dynomat, take advantage of what already works w/o adding weight.
Then if you still don't like the way your speakers sound then add dynomat (or whatever system you want to use) for additional sound deadening.
The "pingy" sounding door did not exist when the car was new. It is an issue that develops over time (due to the seam sealer breaking causing the door skin to seperate). The point of the thread is to point out that this issue can be solved by fixing the inherent failure. This fix will effectively bring the sound of the door back to the way it was when it was new. Sound deadening can always be added on top of this for improved effect.
-Rob
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I understand the weight thing for you guys who actually have race only cars, but I mean to dynamat both doors cost me all of 8.5 lbs and I could care less about that weight because I can get dynamat at cost.
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Originally Posted by jsplit
I understand the weight thing for you guys who actually have race only cars, but I mean to dynamat both doors cost me all of 8.5 lbs and I could care less about that weight because I can get dynamat at cost.
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Just begining to piece my car back together after paint restoration and shot some seam sealer in seperated areas like dicussed. Worked like a champ! No more pinging door! Thanks Guys.....
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
I used the B-Quiet stuff. The shipping box TOTAL (including the box) was 6lbs which contained 3 sheets of the material, some papers and the rolling pin tool. I used 2 sheets. Doing both of my doors probably added maybe 2lbs at the most.
Mahjik, where'd you order the B-Quiet from?
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Originally Posted by jeremyb
uhm....b-quiet dynamat? damper? extreme? ultimate? Which one works the best?
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Originally Posted by jeremyb
uhm....b-quiet dynamat? damper? extreme? ultimate? Which one works the best?
IMO, if you are just doing the doors, the spray type stuff like Quietcar is a waste. If you are coating everything (i.e. undercar or have the entire interior ripped out like one of TurboJeff's project cars), then Quietcar would be ideal.
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Bringing this thread back from the dead...
So, I'm about to do this...but for the life of me, I can't find any sort of automotive seam sealer at my auto parts stores. All they have is window/windshield sealant, RTV, and other gasket sealants. So, my question is: What other type of sealant is equivalent/capable of this fix? JB Weld? Expanding foam? Construction-grade adhesives?
So, I'm about to do this...but for the life of me, I can't find any sort of automotive seam sealer at my auto parts stores. All they have is window/windshield sealant, RTV, and other gasket sealants. So, my question is: What other type of sealant is equivalent/capable of this fix? JB Weld? Expanding foam? Construction-grade adhesives?
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Originally Posted by FDeez
Bringing this thread back from the dead...
So, I'm about to do this...but for the life of me, I can't find any sort of automotive seam sealer at my auto parts stores. All they have is window/windshield sealant, RTV, and other gasket sealants. So, my question is: What other type of sealant is equivalent/capable of this fix? JB Weld? Expanding foam? Construction-grade adhesives?
So, I'm about to do this...but for the life of me, I can't find any sort of automotive seam sealer at my auto parts stores. All they have is window/windshield sealant, RTV, and other gasket sealants. So, my question is: What other type of sealant is equivalent/capable of this fix? JB Weld? Expanding foam? Construction-grade adhesives?
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Some people also said they used expanding foam to get more of a thud sound from the door. Can anyone give some details on this also? Where would the foam go?
And what is the vapor barrier for? I don't think mine has it. Is it for sound insulation? Can it be replaced with the quiet coat stuff, or dynomat?
And what is the vapor barrier for? I don't think mine has it. Is it for sound insulation? Can it be replaced with the quiet coat stuff, or dynomat?
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