ska*utomatic

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i've been looking at intercoolers and decided i want to go stock mount. I don't want to relocate the battery. The best IC looks to be the medium m2 but this is just a little too expensive for me. any intercoolers out there that are as effective as the m2 but cheaper.

SanJoRX7

Nope. The only SMIC's out there that are really worth their salt are the M2 ($$$$), the Blitz ($$) and the Greddy ($$). Neither the Blitz or the Greddy can come close to the M2 in terms of performance based solely on the IC core size.

If you want max performance gains out of an SMIC, probably just best to sack it up and save some dough and go for the M2. Oh, and put your order in about 100 years in advance, because they're never going to get it to you.

SanJoRX7

Sorry, forgot to include the PFS SMIC ($$$) to this list...it's apparently quite well built and great for people that dont' want an FMIC. I'll definitely be considering this one, if I can't find a 2nd hand M2 or a unit built by the guy that designed them (or whatever...there's some threads about this)

suprfast

there is one FMIC that utulizes everything in the same position. rick at ricks rotary makes it, same as rx7 fashion. that is the one i will be getting. pricey, but look at how it actually bolts somewhere. instead of the M2. M2 is 1499 new then you need to buy the elbow. this one is 100% bolt on. rick is an honest guy. only guy ive let touch my car when it gets to the point of being stumped
kris

GoodfellaFD3S

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You mean SMIC, right ?

Also, what is the link to rick's?

ludeowner

http://www.ricksrotary.com/

GoodfellaFD3S

iTrader: (213)

Ah. Very counterintuitive

kyle@insight

I agree with everyone else, M2 (or ricks) seems to be the way to go. I'll be ordering mine soon

1stand3rd

Does Pettit still offer the Coolcharge II? This may be another SMIC option, but also $$$.

ptrhahn

iTrader: (9)

Am i missing something? Ricks is a FMIC, that requires serious cutting to install, and repudedly has serious pressure drop due to end tank design, and is 1700+... hardly a comparo to an M2 medium stock mount.

GoodfellaFD3S

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I just surfed all through the site and couldn't find anything. Maybe suprfast really did mean FMIC......

maxpesce

Also iirc M2 is no longer distributing the Med & Large SMIC's as they are now once again being built & distributed by Kevin Wynum (sp?) of ASP who developed them originally. also the both require a Smaller AirBox/Intake and either a smaller battery or relocating the battery.

the Blitz & Greedy SMIC's are TRUE stock mounts in that they work w/ the stock IC piping, AirBox & Battery, The BLITZ even works w/o modifing the Stock IC Duct

GoodfellaFD3S

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Yup, Kevin Wyum is manufacturing them. I believe that is his username. Get in touch with him guys.....he provides top notch products .

moehler

iTrader: (12)

Pettit CCII works very well and fits with the stock IC pipes and battery location. It's a little more expensive than some others, but it works. There's a pic of the fitment here:

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=193945

suprfast

sorry i didnt reply back but check out this link goodfellas.
http://autoparts.zoovy.com/product/1002
that is a link to ricks site. try www.rx7fashion.com he has a few things under the mazda aftermarket section. i think he makes quality parts. he bought the business from chuck at rotary extreme like 4 years ago. i have an exact quote from chuck somewhere.

"I founded RX-7 Fashion, owned it for 2 years and I sold it to Rick's Rotary about 4 years ago. I sold him the right to make that APEX GTR core custom intercooler so I don't make or sell them anymore. If you need one, you will have to talk to Rick's Rotary. Sorry that I can't help you on this one."
--Chuck Huang

id call rick and ask him what is the deal with the end tanks then...im sure he can clear up why they are either made like that or if they do cause problems. i know he has one on his car with the RZ twins.
kris

ZeroBanger

just want to throw some of my propaganda here...I recommend a small stock IC and DIY water injection. You get fast spool up, low pressure drop and better cooling/detonation protection than any front mount alone could offer. And it will cost less. I have a Blitz SMIC which is very small and costs only $850. For me if someday I had to replace my Blitz I would get a M2-Medium probably. But it may not be worth it since the alchol/water cools so well anyway. If you consider you need a greddy elbow (150) and the IC (1450) + tax/shipping your probably at 1800. JUST MY 2 cents Small IC + Water injection =fast spool and more power than Large IC alone and ofcourse no IC to block your radiator. All the claims I make are based only on research I did on the net.

I have been a loyal customer of Ricks for sometime, he did all the work on my car except some of the minor things that I did. While his IC is top notch, it does require cutting of the bumpersupport to fit the IC. The point behind this is that the IC is then supposed to reinforce the bumper since its put in place.

Its not recommended for a daily driven car. He will even tell you that. Plan on running VERY hot on a warm day.


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"One of the Largest Frontmount on the Market for your 93-95 usa RX 7 24" by 12". The word Custom means its not just a drop in you have a lot of work to do like removing the front bumper. Modifications are nessessary to the car. Its not for the faint of heart if you are the installer with beginner capabilities and limited tools, but they are simple enough for the hard core hobbiest that will work on their cars for a couple of weekends. We do install them here in 3 to 4 hours "custom " installation fee, which is less than some of the other frountmounts that have to remove battery,air conditioner condenser,radiator, in that sense it is a drop in after removeing front bumper and cross member and drilling two holes. Not recommended for street type trafific(every day commute car) but is do-able with fan modifications,(unplugging air conditioner compressor and leaving both fans on at all times).Picture is a custom polished intercooler face costing $2675 with blow of valve welded in and polished to show quality. Warning, as always, these are race applications, made for race conditions off road only use, is highly recommended. ("special order Item, allow 3-4 weeks delivery.")
Price: $1,799.00 "

suprfast

two large fans from spial(sp) or flex a lite can be added to the fmic or the m2 medium to help pull air though when at lower speeds. i think that would help too. the only thing i dont like about the intercooler is that it is a FMIC and blocks the radiator. since the stock radiator is still in the same spot i think a custom under belly tray is in order. time to do some modding or call rick to do that.
kris

speedypete

I thought Pettit's intercoolers were ASP designed as well. Anyone? The PFS and Blitz are pretty small. Do a search, there's a link to a comparo of intercoolers. I think it's the Lightning in a World of Thunder one, but I'm not positive...

Niiice

Rick is an INCREDIBLY honest guy. <B><I><U>LIGHTYEARS</B></I></U> ahead if M2 in customer service and guest relations. He has my car for an engine rebuild and we were discussing intercoolers. Unfortunately, due to insufficient demands, he no longer manufactures his intercooler.