DavidDeco

I'll take you up on that Tell our buddy to fix my boosting and not break anything else on my car and we can put my Hiflow to the test if and when I can ever drive it.

By the way, i *can* tell a pretty big difference between 12 and 14 psi on my car. Maybe not precisely but that's the sweet sopt for me where the rush kicks in. Even with my wimpy hi cat car

ttRx7racer

I need way more power then that
ill only settle for 700+

but seriously who does your tuning?

matty

mp=power
I mod my car to get more power...i run a mp.
Not everyone gets creep...atleast try the mp. I gaurantee once its in you wont remove it.

Goodfella...Dave is my tuner too...he is also a great guy and very honest. I would go aywhere else for a couple of reasons. Think about it from his side though... a mp is slightly more risky then a hf cat especially for some cars...he works on these cars to extract more power and improve afr's. Dont you think it is in his best interest to work on cars without mp's?

matt

Snook

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Hey Dave leave my tuner alone
He's my personal tuner haha

He is good but just very slow

You never had boost issues prior to the rebuild??
No **** your car was stock then you threw every mod on there except for a single turbo at once and now you can't figure out whats wrong. This is why you do one mod at a time so if something is happening after you do it then you point at the mod.

I was there this tuesday to visit my buddy and I didn't see your car....maybe he put it in the back and got tired of working on it.

I guess I am very lucky that my car doesn't have boost problems. Every car is different. I guess if you don't have a good grasp on your boost then lower it and run rich enough to allow for error.

I can tell the difference between 12 and 14 psi too but not that much. A huge difference is between 12 psi on the stock cat and 12 psi on the midpipe. You gotta hear the noise the 2nd turbo makes when it kicks in in 3d or 4th gear with the midpipe. It feels like NOS!! I haven't tried out 5th yet but I'd like to.

Dave just bring your car up here and I'll burn the hell out of you. (I'm counting on the fact that you will never get it back haha)

Midpipe=harcore power
highflow=conservative (I am happy with this much hp and I don't like the noise and smell. Why did you get a race car then?)

A midpipe is totally fine, I think the question you should ask is who is my tuner and why doesn't he want me to have a midpipe?

apneablue

Ok...this has all been very informative for me...seeing that I bougt my 7 as a toy (only drive it once a week) and to tinker with and to get the most out of it I think I will go with the MP...if I have problems then I will switch to a HFC...

Sooooo, after getting the MP if I do experience creep then a boost controler is in order correct? if yes, then which one do you recommend (somthing that would be compatible with a single turbo setup though)?

Is flames a big deal, is it going to melt off my rear bumper or make it black? I have the Racing Beat CB and it sticks out a good 2" past the bumper.

GoodfellaFD3S

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I was holding off, but now I'll say it---with regard to the above comments, you are talking directly out of your ***, my man.

I agree with most of what you say, but my car is sure as hell not conservative, and I drive it in anything but a conservative manner. Ask anyone who knows me .

I said it before and I'll say it again: Go make more rear wheel horsepower with the midpipe and stock twins and then come talk to me .

And by knocking Dave, you're bringing your own credibility into question. Dave doesn't want people to blow their motors b/c he's an honest guy. Sure, he could make more money if he just slapped a midpipe on every car. But he wants his customer's cars running and the customers happy. So he gives them the best advice he can.

I'm not against midpipes--in the right application. I'll have one soon enough....but these guys running stock twins and stock wastegates have to be careful with an open exhaust. Better safe than sorry

EDIT: I also just checked and see that you are 19 years old. I must say that I'm not surprised .

take it easy,
Rich

matty

i must say i am impressed with you rwhp especially that u have a hfc....how aggressive is your port job?
You still havent ran the 1/4 with those mods yet have you?...you should mid to low 11s!!!

matty

that's i wouldN"T go anywhere else for a couple of reasons.

Snook

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Rich,
I agree with most things that you say also.

There is no way that I am saying anything bad about Dave. I think a midpipe is fine but in your situation where you are finely tuned then it seems risky. Common sense tells me that I could make more hp with a mp and be safe. In fact you can go make more rwhp yourself with a midpipe and then go talk to yourself If you are putting out that much power with the hfc then you could have maybe 380 rwhp maybe more maybe a little less when you get the midpipe but it has to be more no? You got a hfc for a different reason than most people it seems. No, your car isn't conservative at all and it is way faster than mine I was just saying that most people that don't get a midpipe do it because they can't handle the effects of it. Yes I am 19 and I was even younger when I got the car. I don't think I am the best or know everything because I don't know ****.
I totally agree it's better to be safe all the time but I don't feel putting on a midpipe should be considered dangerous if it is setup correctly with all the precautions.
I'm done with this mild argument if you have any facts to throw in I would like to see that so we can get somewhere. I don't have any hard evidence either I am just using some common sense and what I have learned on the forum and from my tuner.

Either way your car is awesome man and we have helped apneablue make his choice which was the point of the thread, so it's all good.

Mahjik

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No, that's the problem with "boost creep". The wastegate is already overrun so a boost controller won't do squat.

You'll have to add restrictors on the exhaust or port the wastegate to bring your boost under control should it happen to you...

DavidDeco

heeeheee, well I was trying to save money since I was spending so much(and I don't regret it either now).

I don't think it would have made much a difference.
They have been several boost leaks, vacuum hoses wrong, and boost controller attachment related. No aft ermarket component problems EXCEPT concerning the boost controller connection. Ohh and you didn't hear about my turbo coolant leak the day I got it back
Of course when I got THAT fixed, I had a (stock) injector leaking now the next day....

I say Hi Flow Cat but I've never tried a Mid Pipe. I am of the opinion of Goodfellas. His car is near identical to mine in terms of mods (a few different brands) and his experience with the MP means a lot to me. I bought my car when I was like 22 and was happy with its performance for most of a decade . I think a Mid Pipe, while maybe great for your age range is too obnoxious for some of us. I want to check you car out when you are in town and get a first hand observation but I'm shooting for a combination of sports car and refinement.
If I can get 368 RWHP from a setup with a HF and some good tuning, I'll be very pleased.

artguy

i have open exhaust right now....it stinks like a ****...holy crap...it sounds LOUD too. The power difference was noticible.

but...boost creep is an issue. As is the loss of backpressure which causes the loss of low end torque in exchange for higher peak hp in the power band.

Someone said once you go midpipe you wont want to go back....well Im one of the guys who wants to go back. My car is just too damn loud with open exhaust and it stinks like mad...its FOUL to stand by the car at idle. and honestly...its embarrassing.

if i lived in the boondocks then Id keep it that way...but I live in a crowded beachtown and while its fun to tear thru the neighborhood at 3am and watch lights come on I prefer not to have my car egged by those in the buildings close to me. hahah


btw...goodfella runs one of the highest hp cars with stock twins on this entire forum. If he wasnt dealing with the right people and the right parts his car wouldnt be here right now.

to all the noobs...go ahead and dont listen to the guys who have been thru this already...youll find out the hard way just like rich did the first time and just like i did the last time. youll blow yer **** up if you go to agressive and do not have all the right parts.

tis always someone who hasnt been thru the downside of certain modifications that suggests doing things against the grain of those with more experience. a perfect example yesterday when a couple idiots advised a new member to use turbo city to rebuild his turbos since its only 500 bucks there. I had to go tell them that I blew my turbos in ONE DAY after I dealt with that shop....i also let them know that that shop got sued and lost in regards to the high quantity of their failing turbos.

the point of this rant...if youre a noobie on this thread and you want power...always go the conservative route...listen to the guys who have found out their knowledge from personal experience...and trust that that conservative route is the smart way to go.

i.e..if people are blowing motors from boost creep on open exhaust than do you want to risk being one of them in the hopes to be one of the few who do not?

after two motors..three sets of turbos...another tranny and numerous other problems I found out the hard way that the conservative way is the best way.

jason

matty

i think its more of a preference thing then wants is right or wrong....do what you like!

twinturborx7pete

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Dave come to jax, florida, and i'll burn you =) hehe i'm on the stock twins still too =)

jg937

i am running full exhaust with a intake,ecu and hks evc4 and i get no boost creep,before the evc4 i spiked to 15lbs. get your boost under control and run more boost later when you get a intercooler and bigger inj's to be safe.