Should i buy this 93 Twin Turbo for 9000.00
12-05-03, 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by SterlingFD
It doesn't take 40k to play w/ a Ferrari. I raced a brand new 575 Mararnello right outside work and we were nose to nose, even w/ my 2nd turbo boost leaking to 10 psi. That Ferrari sounded like an E46 M3--sort of a raspy reving.
I had PFS intake, PFS SMIC, DP, Resonated MP, Racing Beat CB, Power FC tuned to 14psi. He didn't think I'd be fast since I have a stock looking R1, but I showed him.
Don't forget, a 575 Maranello weighs 1,000 lbs. more than an FD.
It doesn't take 40k to play w/ a Ferrari. I raced a brand new 575 Mararnello right outside work and we were nose to nose, even w/ my 2nd turbo boost leaking to 10 psi. That Ferrari sounded like an E46 M3--sort of a raspy reving.
I had PFS intake, PFS SMIC, DP, Resonated MP, Racing Beat CB, Power FC tuned to 14psi. He didn't think I'd be fast since I have a stock looking R1, but I showed him.
Don't forget, a 575 Maranello weighs 1,000 lbs. more than an FD.
Hijacking this thread:
I'm considering a move out to California.
I have very similar mods to yours. How do you pass smog out there with all these visible mods?
12-05-03, 11:48 PM
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When I smogged my car, I had all those listed mods except the midpipe. I barely passed the dyno smog after three attempts with the main cat intact.
Most smog shops have never seen an FD, and the PFS intake and intercooler look stock, so they didn't even give it a second look. You shouldn't have a problem passing smog with the stock cat and some mods, unless your motor has been ported.
If you have trouble passing, there's a thread in the West Coast section regarding passing smog by adding denatured alcohol into your gas tank to help the emissions.
Most smog shops have never seen an FD, and the PFS intake and intercooler look stock, so they didn't even give it a second look. You shouldn't have a problem passing smog with the stock cat and some mods, unless your motor has been ported.
If you have trouble passing, there's a thread in the West Coast section regarding passing smog by adding denatured alcohol into your gas tank to help the emissions.
12-11-03, 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by teamstealth
damn bio weapon beat me to it. If you wrecked ur civic hatch stay WAY WAY WAY away from an FD. That car puts probably 70-75hp to the wheels and you will NOT be able to control 400hp in this light of a car to go "shittineg on ferraraaereis"
damn bio weapon beat me to it. If you wrecked ur civic hatch stay WAY WAY WAY away from an FD. That car puts probably 70-75hp to the wheels and you will NOT be able to control 400hp in this light of a car to go "shittineg on ferraraaereis"
12-11-03, 11:30 PM
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honestly i think it seems like a good deal, but just remember that if you buy a car at that price, it will be a "do-a-up-per-er" as long as you accept the fact that the car will end up costing you quite a bit more then $9000, then go it
12-12-03, 01:21 AM
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Re: Should i buy this 93 Twin Turbo for 9000.00
Originally posted by yellowFD
Hi my name is David and im am interested in buying a 3rd gen Rx-7. I saw this one in the local auto trader for 9000.00 with 50,000 miles on it. Is this a good buy? I want a different car in my life. Im tired of the same old Honda Civic ****(crashed my Hatchback), i want to hook one of this babies up with like 400 plus horsepower, RE Amemiya body kit rims the whole 9. I know its gonna cost money but the end result is very pleasing. I want to be able to **** on Ferraries. Is this possible? Oh and buy the way how much did you guys pay for your third gen?
ps sorry for it being so long
Hi my name is David and im am interested in buying a 3rd gen Rx-7. I saw this one in the local auto trader for 9000.00 with 50,000 miles on it. Is this a good buy? I want a different car in my life. Im tired of the same old Honda Civic ****(crashed my Hatchback), i want to hook one of this babies up with like 400 plus horsepower, RE Amemiya body kit rims the whole 9. I know its gonna cost money but the end result is very pleasing. I want to be able to **** on Ferraries. Is this possible? Oh and buy the way how much did you guys pay for your third gen?
ps sorry for it being so long
So now my car has been in the shop and 11 grand later I have a brand new engine with a single turbo setup with all the goodys! So im happy, even though I got ripped off bad. now my car will be putting out close to 400rwhp.
You live you learn!
12-12-03, 01:37 AM
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The big problem with the cars is the price of all the add on stuff. The cost of a engine is high, the low end is about 3000 and the sky is the limit. The turbo packages are expensive a real joke. The inter-coolers are right there as well. The problem is the small market for this equipment drives up the price. I mean a set of engine mounts for 500 dollars is just crazy. If you get one you will surely love the car when it runs and stress over it when it doesn't. I pick up one with a bad motor and see the price of things as insulting. I love the car and will build an engine myself because of my back round but for someone who doesn't have the knowledge its a lot of money. I picked up my car from a young guy who didn't realize the cost of owning and he lost 5,000 for the few months he owned the car. I have two other cars which are "normal" and run all the time.
12-12-03, 05:14 AM
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Well guys
i always wanted an FD and i got an FD
my search lasted two years and got 19 of them viewed all around Italy (not much left here)
finally got one for €8500 with 146000 km and a fresh engine with 19000 km
had to repaint it
and do some minor jobs to had it work fine (stocked three years in a warehouse) costed in total
€8500+2000+1800 or something like that
i love my baby and i am very pleased with her
i would never change it for any other car
and btw i am the only here around with an FD
(actually saw only one one time in the nearbys)
no one knows what kind of car it is, but the real car enthusiasts love my baby!
i always wanted an FD and i got an FD
my search lasted two years and got 19 of them viewed all around Italy (not much left here)
finally got one for €8500 with 146000 km and a fresh engine with 19000 km
had to repaint it
and do some minor jobs to had it work fine (stocked three years in a warehouse) costed in total
€8500+2000+1800 or something like that
i love my baby and i am very pleased with her
i would never change it for any other car
and btw i am the only here around with an FD
(actually saw only one one time in the nearbys)
no one knows what kind of car it is, but the real car enthusiasts love my baby!
12-12-03, 10:50 PM
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That sounds like a good deal, if the car checks out. I paid 16k for mine it had 65k miles on it and the motor was rebuilt at 50k, at 68k I had to rebuild the turbos. Some people have gotten pretty good milage out of there FD (100k or more, thats low milage for a recip motor). When you check it out take a boost gage with you, take a long vacume hose and hook it up to the upper intake manifold on the left side as you look at the motor there should be a nipple there. Put the gage in the car so you can see it when you drive the car. The boost should go up to 10 psi by 3k with WOT and then drop to 8 psi at 4k and then go back to 10psi by 4500. This 10-8-10 is the boost pattern of stock turbos and will tell you if the turbos are working correctly. If not then you will have fun with the hundereds of vacume lines.
Anyway welcome to the board and if you decide to buy the FD you will be making alot of frinds on the board here. There is a lot of info here sometimes its just hard to find. And youl will have to get used to the hater & nockers here to, but sometimes its fun to hear the stupid stuff that comes out of there mouth.
Good Luck.....
Anyway welcome to the board and if you decide to buy the FD you will be making alot of frinds on the board here. There is a lot of info here sometimes its just hard to find. And youl will have to get used to the hater & nockers here to, but sometimes its fun to hear the stupid stuff that comes out of there mouth.
Good Luck.....
12-13-03, 04:56 AM
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Originally posted by RX187
25k for an older NSX like a 91 is a bit too high. I've seen some go for as low as $15k with 100k on the odometer.
25k for an older NSX like a 91 is a bit too high. I've seen some go for as low as $15k with 100k on the odometer.
$15k might buy you a trashed/salvage NSX that has serious problems. Average is $25k-$26k for a clean, 100k+ mile NSX. A low mileage (<30k miles) '91 has a market value of low-mid $30k's.
12-14-03, 06:05 AM
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magic bling bling carpet... LMFAO no way... The more i think about that the more hilarious it gets. As for "shiiting on Ferrari's"(that's the correct spelling, this thread has is wrong about 100 times), the only think you're gonna buy that's gonna **** on a Ferrari is a pigeon, and the only winner's circle that's gonna get you into is the one where Big Bubba and Ray Ray dish out the trophies. Ferrari's cost $150K+ for a reason, Italian engineering at it's best, 400HP no turbo's which = no lag. NO FD that can outperform a Ferrari can claim that. Unless of course you count the 787B, but that's like comparing a Diablo VTTT to a Civic, and the 787B DOES cost more than 150K, A LOT more. Engineering my friend, engineering, no T-88, T51R KAI, or KKK turbo is gonna make up for that. Even though the VTTT does have 2 KKK's, it also has 12 Cylinder's of ItalDesign, as does the Koenig Marenello Twin Turbo.
01-24-04, 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Bio-Weapon
if you managed to crash a civic hatch, stay the hell away from a high horsepower rear wheel drive car. The chances of me owning one sometime in the future decrease when irresponsible kids buy the cars then crash them.
if you managed to crash a civic hatch, stay the hell away from a high horsepower rear wheel drive car. The chances of me owning one sometime in the future decrease when irresponsible kids buy the cars then crash them.
01-24-04, 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by DeepInTheGame
magic bling bling carpet... LMFAO no way... The more i think about that the more hilarious it gets. As for "shiiting on Ferrari's"(that's the correct spelling, this thread has is wrong about 100 times), the only think you're gonna buy that's gonna **** on a Ferrari is a pigeon, and the only winner's circle that's gonna get you into is the one where Big Bubba and Ray Ray dish out the trophies. Ferrari's cost $150K+ for a reason, Italian engineering at it's best, 400HP no turbo's which = no lag. NO FD that can outperform a Ferrari can claim that. Unless of course you count the 787B, but that's like comparing a Diablo VTTT to a Civic, and the 787B DOES cost more than 150K, A LOT more. Engineering my friend, engineering, no T-88, T51R KAI, or KKK turbo is gonna make up for that. Even though the VTTT does have 2 KKK's, it also has 12 Cylinder's of ItalDesign, as does the Koenig Marenello Twin Turbo.
magic bling bling carpet... LMFAO no way... The more i think about that the more hilarious it gets. As for "shiiting on Ferrari's"(that's the correct spelling, this thread has is wrong about 100 times), the only think you're gonna buy that's gonna **** on a Ferrari is a pigeon, and the only winner's circle that's gonna get you into is the one where Big Bubba and Ray Ray dish out the trophies. Ferrari's cost $150K+ for a reason, Italian engineering at it's best, 400HP no turbo's which = no lag. NO FD that can outperform a Ferrari can claim that. Unless of course you count the 787B, but that's like comparing a Diablo VTTT to a Civic, and the 787B DOES cost more than 150K, A LOT more. Engineering my friend, engineering, no T-88, T51R KAI, or KKK turbo is gonna make up for that. Even though the VTTT does have 2 KKK's, it also has 12 Cylinder's of ItalDesign, as does the Koenig Marenello Twin Turbo.
Well, you COULD beat a "modern day" Ferrari, such as a 308, 328, and 348... but no way could you beat an F40, F50, 360, 355....
Some of the guys on this board from what I can tell would beat a Ferrari in a straight line, but would then promptly get their asses handed to them on a road course (given equal drivers, of course).
01-24-04, 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by SterlingFD
It doesn't take 40k to play w/ a Ferrari. I raced a brand new 575 Mararnello right outside work and we were nose to nose, even w/ my 2nd turbo boost leaking to 10 psi. That Ferrari sounded like an E46 M3--sort of a raspy reving.
I had PFS intake, PFS SMIC, DP, Resonated MP, Racing Beat CB, Power FC tuned to 14psi. He didn't think I'd be fast since I have a stock looking R1, but I showed him.
Don't forget, a 575 Maranello weighs 1,000 lbs. more than an FD.
It doesn't take 40k to play w/ a Ferrari. I raced a brand new 575 Mararnello right outside work and we were nose to nose, even w/ my 2nd turbo boost leaking to 10 psi. That Ferrari sounded like an E46 M3--sort of a raspy reving.
I had PFS intake, PFS SMIC, DP, Resonated MP, Racing Beat CB, Power FC tuned to 14psi. He didn't think I'd be fast since I have a stock looking R1, but I showed him.
Don't forget, a 575 Maranello weighs 1,000 lbs. more than an FD.
1) are you sure the other person was even TRYING to race you?
For example, some idiot in an Integra came up next to me on the interstate and then dropped gears and floored it... I just kept my car in 5th gear and stayed along side him up until about 90mph (at only 1/4 throttle, mind you) and backed off since I wanted to avoid a ticket... I bet the Integra owner thought he "owned" me... just like it may be the way you think you beat the Ferrari...
2) You're assuming equal drivers.... he may not know jack about driving, or at least, you know more than he does....
I heard a story on the MkIV forum about some guy who thought he smoked a Lamborghini Diablo in his stock Supra... and how? He explained that the Diablo owner just lit up the tires and didn't move for the first 2 or 3 seconds... shortly after (but after the so called "finish line", the Diablo caught up.... and that's with a 2-3 second head start for the Supra.... yet, the Supra owner still thinks he "beat" the Lambo... I guess, technically he did, but do you really think that Supra REALLY won?
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back to the subject of buying the FD....if you know people that would help you in building the monster that you want (good freinds) go for it....if not this car would be a big learning experience to your wallet.....parts and labor are prices are outragious....
all i can say is good luck.....that's a great price, but i'm almost certain it might be due for a rebuild....if not why so cheap??
all i can say is good luck.....that's a great price, but i'm almost certain it might be due for a rebuild....if not why so cheap??
01-27-04, 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by fd3virgin
If you want to play with ferraries I hope you have 40k+ some in your pocket to put in to the car.
If you want to play with ferraries I hope you have 40k+ some in your pocket to put in to the car.
If you are taking out your bentley on a day like that, i wonder what he drives in the summer.... maybe its a ferarri!
good luck kevin - let me know when you find one, i'll ride shotgun!
damn, i put close to 40k and now i can't find a ferrari to play with. i guess they don't live in my neck of the woods.
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01-27-04, 02:00 PM
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I've never lost to a Ferrari (328's, 355's, or the new 360 Modena Stradale). In fact, they have all been CRUSHED.
As far as handling, a stock R1 pulled 1.01G (better than these Ferraris & that was 11 yrs ago gang). I recall an article (posted 100 times on this Forum) showing how Danny Sullivan obtained the fastest time on a race course in a 93 R1. It beat the vaunted "F40", the 911 Turbo (got 2nd), the NSX, the Corvette w/the Z51 handling package, the Supra, and 1 other car I can't recall (300 ZX TT I believe).
Ferraris are nice cars. They are NOT all that quick compared to a modified forced induction "race car" like an RX-7. I proved that point to a few Pasta eaters
There is always someone faster/quicker than you. Just be careful "who" you decide to run - especially older Turbo cars - they may be running more "boost".
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As far as handling, a stock R1 pulled 1.01G (better than these Ferraris & that was 11 yrs ago gang). I recall an article (posted 100 times on this Forum) showing how Danny Sullivan obtained the fastest time on a race course in a 93 R1. It beat the vaunted "F40", the 911 Turbo (got 2nd), the NSX, the Corvette w/the Z51 handling package, the Supra, and 1 other car I can't recall (300 ZX TT I believe).
Ferraris are nice cars. They are NOT all that quick compared to a modified forced induction "race car" like an RX-7. I proved that point to a few Pasta eaters
There is always someone faster/quicker than you. Just be careful "who" you decide to run - especially older Turbo cars - they may be running more "boost".
-Matt
'93 CYM (Modena Stadale crusher
'88 Turbo II (328 GTS killer)