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no_more_rice 08-10-10 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by djseven (Post 10156769)
I feel that way after reading 99% of your posts.

Do I care what you think? Was that post addressed to YOU? 99% of the world doesn't get alot of things, that's why "broad is the way that leads to destruction". It's a world of many fools.

djseven 08-10-10 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by no_more_rice (Post 10156951)
Do I care what you think? Was that post addressed to YOU? 99% of the world doesn't get alot of things, that's why "broad is the way that leads to destruction". It's a world of many fools.

Touche ;)

dgeesaman 08-10-10 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by unreal-icarus (Post 10155467)
the base map of the power fc can blow up your engine? For sure? Really need to know that, planning to install a pfc in my s8.
sry for offtopic and gl mustangeater!

The base map of the PFC will not blow your engine if you operate within it's limitations. The big one is 10psi of boost on stock twins and fuel system.

It's up to you to make sure your car does not boost more than the tune and fuel system support. Depending on the mods, that could mean boost controller, ported wastegate, etc.

David

TRWeiss1 08-10-10 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by no_more_rice (Post 10156951)
Do I care what you think? Was that post addressed to YOU? 99% of the world doesn't get alot of things, that's why "broad is the way that leads to destruction". It's a world of many fools.

Yeah, and you’re the one that’s got it all figured out. Get off your high horse. :rolleyes:

arghx 08-10-10 12:55 PM

You may have been able to lower the boost by adjusting the settings under the Boost Control screen of the Commander. but with a full catless 3 inch exhaust you may be overwhelming the wastegate anyway.

neit_jnf 08-10-10 03:10 PM

I've drag raced, autocrossed, twisty "roaded", open track raced, drifted, car show exposed, and daily driven my FD... I love all of it!

BTW, I have a compression tester that I loan out - pm for info

t-von 08-10-10 08:31 PM

Original engine???? Sound like the original 3 piece apex seals went bye bye!!!

littlemimus 08-11-10 04:59 AM

since all we have in cali is 91 octane what do u guys recommend we do lol.

djseven 08-11-10 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by littlemimus (Post 10158778)
since all we have in cali is 91 octane what do u guys recommend we do lol.

Water/Meth kits can be had for $350.00 on ebay(I like the AEM setups) with everything needed to install. Takes about 4-6 hours to install a kit depending how anal you are at hiding the wires. Your problems will be solved for the most part.

TRWeiss1 08-11-10 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by littlemimus (Post 10158778)
since all we have in cali is 91 octane what do u guys recommend we do lol.

You must have a race gas supplier SOMEWHERE near you, right? :P Also, you can use octane booster as well. :icon_tup: Dave always tells me you can never put in too much! :lol:

Luckily for me I have access to 110 for $8/gal or 115 for $11/gal if I want to run my higher boost setting. :) Otherwise, we have 93. :D

adam c 08-11-10 09:06 AM

You don't need 93 octane or water injection for a moderately modified FD. You do need a proper tune, with the proper mods to support your higher boost level, and functional boost control.

Running 15 psi at 8300 rpm on a base map does not fall into those parameters regardless of octane level.

no_more_rice 08-11-10 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by adam c (Post 10158943)
You don't need 93 octane or water injection for a moderately modified FD.

Running over 14 psi you do, or you're running precariously close to the edge


Running 15 psi at 8300 rpm on a base map does not fall into those parameters regardless of octane level.
Nonsense. Try running 87 with 15 psi and your apex seals will be ejected out the tailpipe on the street. Where do people come up with this kind of misinformation?

TRWeiss1 08-11-10 09:55 AM

I think adam meant that running 15 psi @ 8300 rpms on the base map does not fall into the category of having proper mods to support the higher boost level, as stated earlier in his post. :icon_tup:

alexdimen 08-11-10 10:01 AM

Don't forget that if you spit a seal out, you'll probably need a new primary or secondary turbine wheel too. Turbine wheels spinning at 10s of k's RPMs don't like metal thrown at them.

And you can't just look in there and tell, you actually have to take the turbine housing off and get a full, unobstructed view of the turbine to check damage. I almost missed one with a fiber optic camera snaked up in there. Best to put your greasy hands right on the problem.

Montego 08-11-10 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by adam c (Post 10158943)
You don't need 93 octane or water injection for a moderately modified FD. You do need a proper tune, with the proper mods to support your higher boost level, and functional boost control.

+1. People make it out to be as if 91 will detonate your car just by looking at it. 15 psi seems to be safe concensus around here.

Either way it is always a good idea to have AI just in case you over boost, get a bad tank of gas whatever.

RX7 RAGE 08-11-10 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Montego (Post 10159160)
+1. People make it out to be as if 91 will detonate your car just by looking at it. 15 psi seems to be safe concensus around here.

Either way it is always a good idea to have AI just in case you over boost, get a bad tank of gas whatever.

Do you run 15 psi with the gt35r on 91 octane Elliott?

Montego 08-11-10 11:57 AM

yes sir...

When we first tuned the car, my mechanic and I drove it to his test spot where he basically beat the shit out of my FD for about 15 minutes non stop WOT at 15 psi. It was a mountain road near his house, up hill, down hill, tight turns, mutha f@cker even drifted a corner. At some point I thought we were gonna slide off the cliff and eat shit :lol:. Finally we ended the trip with a few 140+ MPH pulls. Of course we monitored AFR's, EGT's, injector duty cycle, knock... and the car was fine no AI, no octane booster just straight chevron 91.

I do need to get AI in order to protect myself from a bad tank of gas or an over boost situation. I'm actually tuned for higher but at that point it makes me REALLY nervous...

arghx 08-11-10 02:36 PM

in my experience, timing (relative to the intake temps and octane level) blows engines more than anything else... i've unintentionally leaned out (usually due to dropping fuel pressure) many engines, piston and rotary, and they have survived. too much timing and they will undoubtedly knock though.

R1_stormrider 08-11-10 05:19 PM

i got a methanol injection system from alky control. need to work a few kinks out, but once thats done ohhhh man, i get the benefits in dividends!

to the OP, just get a compression test like everyone else is saying man. that is the best way to figure out whats going on.

adam c 08-11-10 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by no_more_rice (Post 10158991)
......Nonsense. Try running 87 with 15 psi and your apex seals will be ejected out the tailpipe on the street. Where do people come up with this kind of misinformation?

Read the thread moron. We are talking about the difference between 93 octane and 91 octane. Even you should be smart enough to figure that out. Its no wonder so many people on this board regard you with so little respect.

littlemimus 08-11-10 11:01 PM

[QUOTE=TRWeiss1;10158890]You must have a race gas supplier SOMEWHERE near you, right?
oh hell yah. i got race gas suppleirs up the ying yang but you know the problem? this state is ran by a bunch of fucking idiots so guess what? carb passed a law that suppliers can only sell the stuff to cars without a license. they require the time and dates of the sanctioned race event that we will use the fuel. no longer can u just go buy it. the fines are hefty as well

TRWeiss1 08-12-10 07:53 AM

^ Wow...That is some BULLSH*T right there! :cursing: I just go into Dougs speedshop and tell them if I want 110 or 115. :)

no_more_rice 08-12-10 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by adam c (Post 10160059)
Read the thread moron. We are talking about the difference between 93 octane and 91 octane. Even you should be smart enough to figure that out. Its no wonder so many people on this board regard you with so little respect.

That was completely uncalled for, asshole. Granted I misread your post, but it wasn't worded all that clearly. Disagree with the statement, there isn't any need for personal attacks.

TRWeiss1 08-12-10 09:08 AM

Here’s a thought. Maybe if you didn’t get so high and mighty like you know everything there is to know about these cars people wouldn’t have such a problem with you.

YOU misinterpreted his post and then jumped all over it calling “bullshit” on something that YOU misread. Then, on top of that, you proceed to call it misinformation!! And you wonder why people get pissed? Seriously?! :rolleyes:

People would overlook this if it happened once or twice, but you seem to do this sh*t all the time and people are sick of it, hence why adam called you out on it…

It also makes me laugh how you say his name calling was "completely uncalled for," yet you turn right around to call him an asshole. Pot calling the kettle black? Again, get off your high horse. You'll get a lot more respect when you come down here and join the rest of us. :icon_tup:

JStrib 08-12-10 11:53 AM

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