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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 08:41 AM
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Im debating on either selling my rhd rx7 or rebuilding it, need some guidance here. Had the car for a couple years now and its been nothing but problems for me, bought it with no motor, got one off the internet threw it in blown motor no warranty, got another used motor for a reputable motor shop, threw it in drove it for a summer parked in winter, took it out last summer blew an apex seal and now im here debating on what to do. I love the car, but i really dont have the time or funds to rebuild the motor at the moment, and i hate the car just sitting in my garage not being used. Not too sure how much i can get for the car as it sits now with a blown apex seal, and i know the rebuild is probably gunna cost around 2 - 3k. not sure if i should just cut my losses and sell or wait and rebuild. Need some opinions of others here. Basically dumped about 8k into it right now and its broken once again lmao
@BeachCat, I had a similar problem. I purchased a 93 back in 2008 and from the very start had issues with the engine. It started with leaking oil pan, which was fixed by @RotaryDynamics (Jim), then it was various other problems, blown rad, etc (again, fixed by Jim).

Then after about 2 years (less than 10,000KM) the engine was burning rad fluid.. I was left with the choice of what to do....

If you talk to people on here, I am in Toronto, so I had the usual people (who are helpful), and even had someone quote me on it (he is known around here, but do your own research)..

You are looking at good money if you rebuild.. If you cut corners, get ready for another disaster.. I remember when I was considering it, it was at least 5K.

The problem that concerned me was, reputable people, who know what they are doing. Find someone who is reputable.. I ultimately went a different route, I still have my RX7 though, would never sell it.

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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ken125
I also say v8, better performance and much better reliabilty. you also get to keep the great car that the rx7 is .....
While I do not entirely disagree with you, this forum is not welcome of opinions that deviate from Rotary engines.. Just a head's up.

Personally, I grew tired of the rotary non-sense, and wanted to enjoy my car. I did the swap years ago.

But.. That's a decision everyone makes for themselves.. You will get harassed for suggesting it.

As I already noticed, the "and that's a feature?" comment below.

Perhaps you should rephrase it.. You should say, if you go V8, you lack some of the issues you will face with rotary engines.. The V8 is a solid engine.. Powerful, lacks the constant maintenance that you find with rotaries..

The need to rebuild on V8s is only after many many many miles/km.. Every rx7 owner I know personally, do rebuilds on their rotaries within 50,000KM.. Spending 3-5K every 50k is not cost effective..
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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by real1st
The need to rebuild on V8s is only after many many many miles/km.. Every rx7 owner I know personally, do rebuilds on their rotaries within 50,000KM.. Spending 3-5K every 50k is not cost effective..
Rebuilds that fail within 50k are because of a substandard build or clueless modding... Recently picked up some parts from someone parting their car out to go V8. They were on their 3rd engine, apparently running 22psi on straight pump gas is OK because Subaru's do it and that somehow applies to our cars. Coolant seals also go because nobody changes their damn coolant.

With countless choice of unbreakable seals we have now, a rebuild every 50k nowadays is laughable and any rotary shop that says that is normal shouldn't be in business.

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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by thewird
Rebuilds that fail within 50k are because of a substandard build or clueless modding... Recently picked up some parts from someone parting their car out to go V8. They were on their 3rd engine, apparently running 22psi on straight pump gas is OK because Subaru's do it and that somehow applies to our cars. Coolant seals also go because nobody changes their damn coolant.

With countless choice of unbreakable seals we have now, a rebuild every 50k nowadays is laughable and any rotary shop that says that is normal shouldn't be in business.

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@Beach, Thewird is a great resource for information and if you need work done, last I checked he has been known to do work as well.

He was the person who checked out my engine when the seals were gone..
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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
I don't believe a rotary should be converted to piston power, though the resulting sports car is very good on its own as a sports car. However, to say you did it because the rotary engine needs to be rebuilt aft 50,000 miles is just wrong factually. There is no doubt the V8 shouldn't have any reliability problems related to the engine. The swap may create some. Suffice it to say that, while you have to do it without any factory support, the basics to make the rotary reliable while making twice the OEM power levels are simple, easy, and cheap. For those who like the Rx7 enough they live with having to solve these little problems. For those who don't love the car "enough" all this is too much and plopping a v8 in is a good answer and I'm okay with it, since it raises the value of the Rx7's.

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Your statement that a person who does a V8 swap does not 'love their car enough' is ridiculous. Your suggestion that problems will always be minor is also questionable. Just because you have experienced minor problems, does not mean others have had the same luxury. This forum is full of people who had more than MINOR problems.

If a person wants a V8, that is their business. Using your logic, it could be argued that any person who modifies their rotary in anyway, care little about it. All of you 'GOING SINGLE' people, and other modifications that have been done are PERSONAL choice, and may have nothing to do with problems at all, they just wanted something different.

@Beach, do whatever you want. Go rotary, stock or otherwise, get thewired to hook you up, as most of us know he can. His builds are great.

Whatever you do, don't let so-called purists sway you with illogical arguments that are based on ignorance or agendas. I have had both, I enjoyed both.
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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
However, to say you did it because the rotary engine needs to be rebuilt aft 50,000 miles is just wrong factually.
He actually said they are rebuilding every 50,000km...so about 30k miles....lol assuming that's a street driven car, some one is doing something VERY wrong.
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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by real1st
Your statement that a person who does a V8 swap does not 'love their car enough' is ridiculous....
Since the focus of the 'swap' debate is the engine, and focus of Gordon's reasoning was the engine, I read this as "doesn't love their rotary enough. In that understanding it isn't ridiculous at all.
Still, IMO the OP should probably just sell the car. His experience is the result of a series of bad decisions, the very existence of this thread suggests his commitment is low, and his funds are limited.
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Old Feb 24, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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The nannying in this thread takes out all the fun out of reading the ensuing drama lol...

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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 01:41 PM
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I love how everyone is just assuming things now, and how this went from a "rebuild or sell" thread to another v8 vs rotary debate lmao
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Old Feb 26, 2015 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
Actually, the point thewird was making is that most of the people here "pulled their punches"... The v8 vs rotary debate is soooo tiresome that nobody wants to get into it anymore. Its like Republicans and Democrats. Never going to agree... ;-)

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I do concur, and I was talking to thewird over the phone about my rebuild/build and Im probably gunna bring it to him to get all the work done, because I really dont have the time, space or resources that he does to complete it all. So all in all Ive decided to go with the rebuild option and not cheap out anymore cause Ive learned the hard way I guess, and I love the car way too much sell it hahaha
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