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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Safe Engine temps??

I just got my PFC installed and am curious exactly what is too hot / when I should get worried. I only have the stock engine temp gauge in so I am using the PFC to tell temps. I wait till it warms up to around 60*C before driving around. What is pretty much the highest I should let the engine get to before pulling over and popping the hood?? I got up to 115*C yesterday in traffic...

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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average in winter is about 88*C and in the summer it will hover around 99*C with the fans kicking on slightly over 100*C

personally i prefer to lower the fan switch on points, the engines run hotter than i like to see with the factory settings. 100*C is pretty toasty warm..

if you start nearing 110*C or higher then you may want to consider pulling off the road and turning the engine off because you probably have a problem.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fendamonky
I got up to 115*C yesterday in traffic...
ha, so he has a problem. check your radiator fans.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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I run between 180 and 220 stock.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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For the record 115C = 239F
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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239 is too hot. 230 is about as high as I would ever want to see an FD engine. I try to keep mine to a maximum of 210-215. This can be easily done with a fan controller.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Yes~~~ Normal temps are around the 85-90 range.
Higher than 120 - 130 then you need to pull over and cool it down... it happened to me when I was heading to Vegas and on the up hill it started to rise~~ hehehe.
But if its stock setup then there is no worries~~
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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How do you know what your engine temperature is?
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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I made the mistake of turning me engine off after running my car pretty hard and when it sat there and heatsoaked I saw 106 degrees on the PFC.

For me though, normal operating temps are 82-85C on most days, 87 is the hottest normal operating temp. I've ever recorded but that was on a very hot day. I guess that's the magic of the Koyo. I never hear my fans click on when I'm driving.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Hrm... I have a Koyo in there. How would I reprogram my fans to cut on at a lower temp??

I think part of the problem may be that I am missing that plastic belly tray that runs under the radiator to keep air from flowing past the rad and under the car. I will be getting up with Fritz this weekend (hopefully) to pick up one of his spares... hopefully that will help alleviate the problem. I typically see right around 90*C on regular highway speed driving.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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that is a HUGE part of cooling. I think lots of people underestimate the importance of a good, functioning undertray. They help massively to help extract hot air from the engine bay. Seriously, they make a BIG difference, and I don't think you should do other modifications until you log the difference once you get that piece on.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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There is something wrong with your cooling system. Period. Your fans are not operating properly or there is something wrong with the coolant or your t-stat.

You need the FC-Datalogit (or borrow someone else's) to lower the temps that the fans turn on.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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A missing undertray would cause problems at speed, not so much when sitting in traffic.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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PM me if you need any help.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by snub disphenoid
I made the mistake of turning me engine off after running my car pretty hard and when it sat there and heatsoaked I saw 106 degrees on the PFC.
It's going to heat soak if you let it cool off after a hard run or not. in the summer mine may get over 100C, from a normal 85-86C, if I park for 5min then come back and crank it up.

And for the other guy if you saw any where near 120C on the street you have a problem, and no an upgraded radiator won't fix it unless the stock one is messed up. I can run a 25min session on the track and not even hit 110C, and that is with twins.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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last time my temps got over 120 i needed a new engine.....coolant seal
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Authentikdit
How do you know what your engine temperature is?
Drive at 30 miles per hour. Swith on your heater on the # 3 setting. Stick your index finger out the window and count to ten. Then multiply by 100 and roughly that equals your water temps in C.

To roughly convert to F: double that number and add 32.


got it
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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Umm..HUH??
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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no seriously:

Most of us have a PFC or a temp gauge.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Lol..Oh okay I was expecting teal on your previous response but didn't get any so I almost took you seriously..Better invent in 1 of those 2 then.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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lol

but yeah a temp gauge is a great idea. But if you are in the market for a power Fc might as well get that instead.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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Honestly, I think the 115*C was due to heat soak. I noticed that after I came out of the store and just popped my hood for a couple of minutes before driving. Definitely plan to get the undertray this weekend. Going to look into budgeting for a datalogit. Anyone have a used one, or know where I can get one?
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