TwinTriangles

Who cares...!

rx7dave77

$100,000? Definitely the Viper...oh wait, that's not a choice right?! Well, at least I thought the RX7 looks like the Viper's little bro. Guess that if you have $100,000 then you can ensure the Mazda can stay a daily driver. I went with the RX7 on looks only! Plus, there's always something about telling people that you have a 1.3 rotary engine that's quicker than a lot of the 6's and 8's. With all that said, I probably would have made a more "responsible" decision by buying the Supra because of reliability issues. But I have a hard time seeing any decision as "responsible" when it comes to buying a sports car. I don't have the money to make it my daily driver, that's for sure! So, since I already anticipated that fact, I went with the one I wanted more. I've considered trading it in since then because of all the griping and complaining I have heard about 'em, but it hasn't failed yet that when I go walk outside to get in my car, I can't think of anything else I could affordably have! Bottom line, get what you want - I can't see any car being an "investment".

ArchangelX

Man..I hate these threads.

It ALWAYS turns into a flame war between people...their egos seem to get in the way of the true intent of the thread. Plus...everyone always says..oh..I wouldn't do that..I would buy a viper. People..that's not the question that the guy was asking...so why do you go off-topic?

The fact is, both cars are simply incredible machines that anyone worth his salt should be happy to own.

The truth is..I "settled" for an RX-7 because I couldn't afford the car of my dreams..the 98 Supra TT. I had a SWEET deal..but the owner just wouldn't pay the tax to have it licensed probably...which would have tacked on another 3k to the price, making it practically a 40k car that was 5 years old. I settled for a 93 RX-7, and haven't looked back since. I fell in love with the 7...completly. So far..I've spent every nickle and dime that I would have gone to just purchasing a Supra TT, into rebuilding and modifying my RX7.

And now..I can say I don't regret it one bit. I've had my car rebuilt since Mar, and it's running absolutely fantastic with no problems, and it's a daily driver running 12 pounds of boost through some of the crappiest weather the sorry azz city of Tacoma, WA can dish out. I think alot of of people have grenaded their engines, simply because they didn't tune it correctly, or didn't take time to do things right the first time, or they were careless with their modifications. That's just my opinion, of course.

It handles like a go-kart, it's power is immediate, and clearly definable, and the difference in handling between the Supra and the RX7 is clearly evident..not in the differences of ability..but just the feeling. It's still modern in many ways, in which the Supra is lagging, such as ergonomics, for example. The Supra's interior is very squarish, and very outdated looking when compared to today's standards.

But I'll tell your right now..the Supra can be made to handle just as well, and with even more HP than the RX7 could ever dream of having along with better reliability, and the Supra by far is the car every import fan looks to as the "god" of power and handling.

But they're are so many pros and cons, it's ridiculous to try and ask people to give their opinions. You NEED to find them out for yourself through careful research, and your own exploratory search for the strengths and weaknesses of each car. Don't let others influence your decision with their opinions. Pick what is best for you.

They're two different cars...if I had the chance..yes..I would still purchase a Supra, no doubt about it. But only if I had a 7 in the garage.

Louis M

Great Answer...

Ashkon

One thing that is for sure, is that once i test drive both cars, I defently see which one I feel more comftorable witt.

I wanted to buy the Supra. All friends and families suggested Supra over RX7. That is exactly why I thought the best place that people would fight over RX7 would be here.

I personally love RX7. and I see supra as THE beast.
RX7 is somewhat unique comparing to other cars. It's just something else. It's in a different category, one of itself. Thats what I like about it.

And yet, I just love the

Toyota AB-Flug Supra S900

or

1999 Toyota Veilside Supra Limited

And it's quiet amazing how much HP these things could go up to...

and for RX7s

the Veliside is a beaty and alot cheaper...

I like supra more, yet I think RX7's price is more affortable.

Street King

If you're going to get a Veilside kit, by all means get the Supra. =)

Kento

Couldn't agree more...

Ashkon

Is it really worth paying at least 20 (CN) Grand for that bodykit?

particleeffect

damn, i think that ab-f kit supra looks sweet, kind of reminds me of a lotus elise, but bigger of course. it's worth it if you want it enough, its no basic kit, it looks like it replaces almost every body panel.

Rhode_Dog

hey ashkon, you been to these places www.suprastore.com (suprastore, has everything) www.i-m-racing.com www.titanmotorsports.com these should be helpful for parts on the supra. Be warned though, the follow up to that stupid movie(i am sure you know which one) will be out soon, and once again the prices of these cars will skyrocket.

DavidDeco

The RX-7 for sure. It is better looking and just in its own class. A Supra will never be confused for an exotic. An RX7 often is, especially with some basic body mods like a hood and '99 bumper, but then at times even stock.

For $100k I can easily erase the difference the SUpra has built in for power potential and infrastructure (e.g. fuel system, etc)

If you said $20k (in mods above and beyond the car itself) I would still pick the FD but you would have a strong argument for the SUpra if power was all you were looking for.

DavidDeco

Are u smoking dope??!! No offense but the Viper is so much nicer IMO.

I saved the money on the Viper to sink back into my FD so go figure...half the price I would have paid (I owned my FD for almost a decade so I'm not counting purchase price) in mods makes and FD as slick looking and faster.

Ashkon

thx Rhode Dog

I don't think it would effect Supra that much, last time was good enough

And by the boosted price this is what I mean...

Veliside Price

Ok this freak costs 15 K plus see that note at the bottom:

"*not for the light hearted, this kit requires expensive body work, probably in excess of 10k for install*"

thats 25 Grand... Is that worth it?

Shinobi-X

Ashkon,

Were you planning on making a purchasing decision, based off the responses you recieved in this thread? If so, you would need to know a lot more about the 7 and Supra, and the various issues both of them deal with. Most people do not have that 100K budget to spend on the cars, so bringing it down to a realistic level would probably serve you better if you are indeed planning on purchasing one of these cars.

What are your aims for the car? and what type of conditions will they be subjected to (I.E. will you be racing, and if so, what type of racing)? etc.

Rhode_Dog

i wouldn't pay 25k for a veilside body kit, there are others things out there that would serve better purpose.
The TRD wide body is more functional, and is just more tasteful overal. But thats my opinion
Shinobi asked a good question, just what are you planning to do with all that cash?

t-von

iTrader: (8)

I would go with the Rx7. I love the idea of how the Fd was designed solely as a PURE SPORTS CAR Everything down to the layout screems pure & total performance. Light weight, perfect balance, great power, unique power plant, timeless looks, (I get complements all the time from people asking me if it's a new 2003 model ). Hmm not bad for a 12 year old design. Any ways it's all about preferance. My preference is to drive something differant from everyone else. I also like the fact that I posses 1 of only 2 in my town. I guess you could say that I hate to keep up with the Jones's. With that being said, if my Rx7 was as common as a Mustang or a Trans-Am, I definetly wouldn't love my car as much.

stik6shift00

and be like the other 600 people with in 10 miles...

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

Who cares...

Trust me, once you get an FD and you are waiting for months for parts or just to be able to drive the thing you'll be envying all those Z06 owners (brand new vehicles, with 405hp stock and warranties).

I've had an FD for over 5 years. If you actually purchase one, you'll see.

juliof

I would take the FD over the Supra, its so exotic looking fast nimble and such a pure sports car.The thing that sucks the most is the fragile motor, thats the only thing I would swap from a Supra. Accually my dream FD would be RB26DETT powered .

DRAG0NEER

supras are "out" IMO...

you don't even see them in options magazine anymore.

But the FD is still "in" since the made the last one in 2002.

MAGICO

RX7 for sure. Who wants to drive a boat? If I did id buy one that floats on water. People who go on about FD RX7s reliability should be shot.

Unit 5302

I've got a friend who just purchased a 93 RX7. 79,000mi. Engine needs a rebuild. Turbos need rebuilding. The oil pan needed to be resealed. The cats were just replaced. I think the testimony of the enthusiasts here speaks volumes. They know their car isn't the most reliable car out there, but also understand it's not too bad of a deal so long as you don't have much downtime. Bottom line is the reputation for reliability issues severely undermined sales of the car. Enough people out there have nightmare stories (most likely about poorly maintained cars), that the car has gotten a pretty bad reputation for reliability all around.

I think there are multiple reasons the RX7 is considered so unreliable. Starting with the lack of people who are able or willing to work on them. The service quality out there for the rotory is pretty poor. The lifespan of the engine. Most people expect an engine, even a high performance one, to go well over 100,000mi. The FD RX-7 cannot hold up to that, and if it does, the power output would be miserable. The reliability when significantly modified is questionable.

What it all boils down to is the car as a whole. Light, fast, manueverable, unique, exciting, and a blast to drive. The compromises are there, obviously, but when the car is matched with the right owner, you obviously have an intoxicating relationship.

For me, I'm all about Mustang's. They've been my interest since I was 17 and got my first. Though I can certainly understand their compromises, they're nonetheless fun to drive, and they match what I want from a car, most of the time. Doesn't hurt that I can replace anything on the car with a day.

rotary crazy

I buy a 2002 spirit R in japan and keep it stock and drop a 20B in my 94 touring.

A few of my friends have supras and they dont get nearly the same atencion as my fd does. Also it seems like theres one in every drive way.

Scrapiron7

LOL! I guess by those standards, my wife's old Ford Escort ZX2 was a sports car!

Shinobi-X

I purchased my FD, and it has had it's fair share of downtime, I'd say almost more than I've driven it. However, I don't envy the Z06 in any shape or form. I love the car, and thinks it's excellent, but I also love my FD, and the fact that I get to do my own work, and see the results of my work with the performance I achieve. The Z06 would be the more practical, and logical buy, but when owning an FD (or any sports car), the former does not always hold the most weight, and the latter holds true to a point. For half the price of the Z06, I can easily defeat one, and in this was the logic behind my decision in buying the FD. On a side note, I can't envy a car that I see almost every day either. It's all a matter of the individual.