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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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The 787B was a non-turbo engine. You'll find that 1st and 2nd gen RX-7s that are non-turbo generally have very long lifespans.
So Mazda made a conclussion after the RX-7 FD that turbos and rotary engines don't mix.
So the Renesis engine had to be a NA version, how interesting.
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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You would think Mazda would have learn how to build a sturdy Wankel engine after they built the 787B. It lasted 24H in a row without breaking down
You do know that each manufacturer has multiple entries in LeMans to improve the chances of one of their cars winning/finishing the race, right?

Mazda had 3 787B cars in the 1991 race, and the now-famous #55 car finished only 2 laps ahead of the first of the Jaguar XJR 12s that finished 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. The other two 787Bs finished 6th and 8th. The previous year, the best showing for Mazda was a 767B car that finished 20th, and the two 787B cars did not finish.

People like to focus on the 1991 win as the high water mark and talk about how the rotary was banned from LeMans after the win, but Mazdas finished 15th in 1994, 7th in 1995, 25th in 1996, and 17th in 1997, all of which were 3- or 4-rotor powered cars. A Mazda also finished 4th in 1992... with a 3.5L V10.
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lone Raider
So Mazda made a conclussion after the RX-7 FD that turbos and rotary engines don't mix.
So the Renesis engine had to be a NA version, how interesting.
Yep...the conclusion is called "emissions".
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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Yep...the conclusion is called "emissions".
So you don't think Mazda cancelled the turbo because of engine durability?
That is what I would think, I mean I big company like Mazda could easliy make a turbo version of the Renesis make the emission regulations.

I think there is more to it than that.
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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You need to do more "thinking"....as in research into how long Mazda has been selling turbo rotaries, the Wankel's poor combustion efficiency, ever-tightening emissions standards worldwide, etc., etc....
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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If rotaries were reliable, then more people would want them... so therefore they would cost wayyyy too much for a lot of the people on this board to own. So it would be an entirely different community. There are some reasons to be thankful it isnt reliable!!

I too am looking for a rotary, I'll pick up a blown turbo 2 FC for around 1k NZD when I can find one
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kento
Yep...the conclusion is called "emissions".
Well, that and rapidly declining sales. 1996 OBD-II emissions requirements were just the last nail in the coffin, not the coffin itself.
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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sorry to sound retarded and all but i g2 know...

why shouldnt you drive it in the winter? i mean is it just to keep wear and tear down
or is it just generally bad on the engine to run in the cold?

whats wrong with it being a daily driver? uhg so confused
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by yanyan1
why shouldnt you drive it in the winter?
RWD cars don't get very good traction on wet or icy roads (or snow) and are easy to lose control of.
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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isnt traction all about the wheels?
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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isnt traction all about the wheels?
Very little weight over the drive wheels = very little traction. That's why FWD/4WD/AWD vehicles handle accelerating in wet or icy conditions better than RWD, although all stop about the same.

You're from Wisconsin and you don't understand this?
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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Very little weight over the drive wheels = very little traction. That's why FWD/4WD/AWD vehicles handle accelerating in wet or icy conditions better than RWD, although all stop about the same.

You're from Wisconsin and you don't understand this?
Not when he only gets driven around by his parents.
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Very little weight over the drive wheels = very little traction. That's why FWD/4WD/AWD vehicles handle accelerating in wet or icy conditions better than RWD, although all stop about the same.

You're from Wisconsin and you don't understand this?
I have very icey condition for 4 months here in Sweden and you get a lot a training driving in slippery conditions. I prefeer RWD in the winter, that way I can have a little fun sideways

But if you are not used to driving i icey roads you will bang up your car or worse.

But if I had a RX-7 I would only use it in summer time, winter conditions is hard on a car. RX-7 should be in the hands of careful owners.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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If you think 5g(at least) into your car every year isnt bad...then its not very expensive
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by diablone
Not when he only gets driven around by his parents.

your so gay go die
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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your so gay go die
Goddamn the truth stings, doesn't it?
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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your so gay go die
You brought this on yourself.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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$5k is a lot for a year .... I got my car with 82k and probably spent less than $1k on oil/plugs. I didn't race it everywhere, and even used it as a daily driver for a while (a couple months). Of course, the engine gave out at 85k miles. But that is a decent life for the FD. If you are spending $5k every year, I'd say stop racing a stock engine every weekend and expecting it to make it more than a year.

The amount of money you end up spending in a year is dependant on how you drive it. Unless of course, its in the 80-100k mile range. Heh, then you may not have any control (Like me, stock boost, not in gear, not on accel, slowing down at a light ... *pop* ... the end.). Then the fun part is getting to put together a new engine!
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Goddamn the truth stings, doesn't it?

hey ive been driving for 6months sue me (which obviously means i havent drove in the winter yet, just laying it out for yall ignant folks)
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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/\ it's not really a matter of experience, you know it's not a good idea to punch a grizzly bear in the mouth but you don't have to try it to figure that out. (at least I would hope )
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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New Zealands wierd... we've got basicly japanese cars.. and some holden v8's.... so yea stock the RX7's are some of the fastest cars on the road.. along with RZ supras and.... Hondas!! BAh!!
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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hey ive been driving for 6months sue me (which obviously means i havent drove in the winter yet, just laying it out for yall ignant folks)
Six months of driving doesn't make you qualified to own an RX-7. Please come back in five years. Have a nice day though.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Counterpoint:

I have been driving Mazda rotary engine cars, off and on, since 1973. Here is a list of the cars I’ve owned:

1972 Mazda R-100
1973 Mazda RX-3
1984 Mazda RX-7 GSL-SE
1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II
1993 Mazda RX-7 (still own)

I haven’t blown any engines or had any major mechanical failures. I kept all of my cars completely stock. I maintained them according to the manufacture’s recommendations. I drove all of them in the winter, except for the 1993. So don’t let these guys scare you. Rotary engines can be reliable. I admit I only have 14,000 kilometres on my 1993. I suppose tragedy could strike any day!
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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dont ever DROVE your rx-7 in bad weather. its bad enough dry!
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Black97VR4
Six months of driving doesn't make you qualified to own an RX-7. Please come back in five years. Have a nice day though.
It doesn't matter, he can't afford it.
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