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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpine
this WRC car choose to mount the shoulder belt in between the strut tower, rather than directly behind the seat on the roll cage.
They probably did that because the angles were more appropriate. Make no mistake, that is NOT a strut tower bar, that is part of the cage the belts are mounted to.
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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actually most european racers mount it to a roll bar between rear strut towers, unlike american racers who like to mount it right behind the seat via a roll cage horizontal bar. From what I've heard so far, they do that to allow some give in the harness, when the harness is longer, it stretches more.

Some also mount it on the floor board, but with a horizontal bar behind the seat to keep the shoulder belt angle correct.



Apparently, they think it's important for the shoulder belt to stretch in a crash...
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpine
Some also mount it on the floor board, but with a horizontal bar behind the seat to keep the shoulder belt angle correct
No they do not. Those that do are just as wrong if they live in Europe as they are in the USA.

The harness in that last pic is not mounted to the floor, it's mounted to the crossbar right behind the seats. You can tell because you can see the wrap around clips and can just make out the fact that the harness is wrapped around the tube. The parts you see heading towards the floor are merely the extra length of the harness straps dangling from the clips.

I blew up the pic attached and you can see the harness is wrapped around the cross bar.
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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This harness guide bar is from i/o port racing

Stable Energies' guide bars attach to the stock seat belt mount on the "B" pillar, the "C" pillar for the 924/944/968, but still allow the use of the stock belts. Harnesses can be attached directly to the bar for low speed events or the rear lap belt mounts for high speeds. The bar can be removed easily when necessary.

http://www.ioportracing.com/Merchant...egory_Code=HGB
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Otherwise, for round bars used in high speed events, the routing of the harness over the bar guides the resulting impact forces back, instead of straight down, to avoid spinal compression. For that purpose, it works fine.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...m/harness2.htm
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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Correct mounting locations for shoulder harnesses...

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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Here's another....just ignore the 3-point shoulder harness and imagine a 4-point instead....



My bar will be done in a few weeks...

Larry from the RaceShop will be posting his info soon. For those of you who haven't seen this posted yet -- Larry was the fabricator for M2 (and several other vendors...).
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