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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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A quick preveiw (opinions whanted)

This is one of the things I have been working on over the winter. This setup will be stock twins run parallel. With a V-mounted duel pase radiater (fluidyne) and intercooler (APEXI). I will be running a full unrestricted 3" exhaust. I also will be running a Power FC. The main reason for me sticking with the twins and running them parallel in this way, was to see if I really like the whole single idea.

Has anyone ever run the twins in this fashion before?

Tell me what you think, I am open for CONSTRUCTIVE Criticism.LOL

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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A couple of more pics. Last two are to show the direction I am going with the car this summer. No I will not be painting the hood this year, maybe when I repaint the whole car. 93 paint really sucks!
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Good catch.

Still deciding were to put it. I have a blitz BOV. I am leaning towards putting it before the intercooler and after thr Y. Would it be better to put it close to the throttle body?

I also have an AST delete. So I will not be using an AST.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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any more pics of how you set up the twins? did you modify them at all (compressor wheel, ect.) or are they stock? any perticular reason you decided to get rid of the stock y-pipe?
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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but overall very interesting and innovative good job! I cant wait to see the finished product and hear how it works out.

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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They will be mostly stock. I do plan on modifing the exhaust manifold also. I am pondering the idea of going with an external wastgate. Not shure if they would be any advantages to this or not.

I didn't really think that the stock Y pipe was efficient for what I had in mind. The Y, I used from some leftover piping from a Greddy twin turbo setup for the 350Z. Actually all the turbo to intercoller to Greddy elbow is from that kit.


I like to try things that I don't think have been done before. This is hard with a popular tunning car that is 14 years old (build date on mine is 92).

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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very interesting.. With that setup you would have no choice but the run the in non-seq mode. Props for innovation!


Edit: At first glance i was like.... Why the **** is he running his exhuast through an intercooler :p
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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I attempted to be a little different with mine as well. although you win, i have definately never seen anyone do this before. I did a custom intercooler and fabricated the endtanks and intercooler pipes as well as the cooling plate.



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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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very nice. cant wait to se how it performs.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Very interesting....you couldn't call that poor man's non-sequential!

I would put the BOV after the intercooler.
Looks like pretty good work there....maybe more work than the stock twins needed...
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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jhnrx7- your car sure looks pretty. looks like fangs!!
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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Thanks for all the kind words.

Unfortunatly from what I understand. The stock twins fail at higher boost levals, becuase of the heat in the exhaust housings. I will try to address some flow advantages there as well.

So from my understanding, this has not been done before?


JhnRx7,

Your car looks very nice. Like I said before it is hard to be different in this crowd. and still have a clean looking FD.

rynberg,

Thanks, I like to take thing to extremes for minamal cost out of pocket. I like to do things my self. I dont really add up time as a cost. I think I will put the BOV were you stated, any advantages to this location?

Alot of these parts were purchased through this forum. When I have completed my project I will post a thank you list to all the great people that I have delt with, and maybe provide a price list if I can find all of them. I have saved alot of money going through the forsale section and grabing parts at great prices. Lucky for me I did not get scammed, or given somthing I didn't order.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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Any one else?
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I had an opportunity a few years back to meet Corky Bell at his old shop in San Antonio and sit down to talk to him - got to learn all kinds of turbo knowledge for about an hour, great talk! Anyhow, I asked him about BOV placement. He said that there really isn't an advantage to putting it before or after the intercooler - he said you just put it where you can, since you run into packaging/space problems most times. Just FYI.

Looks like a really sweet setup! It'll be interesting to see how it performs!

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Great job, i've never seen anybody do a custom y pipe like that. From what I see in the pics, your car's paint looks very good too....
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Very interesting work, and great job so far. I wonder what, if any, advantages this setup will hold over the current y-pipes most people use in the interest of simplicity and one less source of error. How many couplers will this add to the system?
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Thanks for that info. I think I will be putting it just past the intercooler on the throttle body side. I hope to have my welder freind come over this weekend and finish up the welding. Then I get to pull it all apart and swap out the motor. I am glad to see that some of the senoir people like this setup. THANKS!
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I had an opportunity a few years back to meet Corky Bell at his old shop in San Antonio and sit down to talk to him - got to learn all kinds of turbo knowledge for about an hour, great talk! Anyhow, I asked him about BOV placement. He said that there really isn't an advantage to putting it before or after the intercooler - he said you just put it where you can, since you run into packaging/space problems most times. Just FYI.

Looks like a really sweet setup! It'll be interesting to see how it performs!

Dale
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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The still only has 30,000 on it, But the primer coat chips real easy. It also has been covered or in storage most of its life also. Doh.
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Great job, i've never seen anybody do a custom y pipe like that. From what I see in the pics, your car's paint looks very good too....
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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I will be using as few of couplers as possible. Elbow<>pipe<>intercooler<>Y pipe<>secondary turbo. Iam going to try and make the Y pipe bolt to the primary turbo with no coupler. I might try to make the secondary solid also, But this would not leave any room for eror clocking the turbos. I wonder how this setup would work with some BNR or Knight sports turbos?

Originally Posted by Shinobi-X
Very interesting work, and great job so far. I wonder what, if any, advantages this setup will hold over the current y-pipes most people use in the interest of simplicity and one less source of error. How many couplers will this add to the system?
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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I would recommend welding the intercooler pipes instead of using duct-tape

jk, car looks good. looking forward to checking it out in person sometime this summer.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by vel525
I would recommend welding the intercooler pipes instead of using duct-tape

jk, car looks good. looking forward to checking it out in person sometime this summer.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by vel525
I would recommend welding the intercooler pipes instead of using duct-tape
I am suprised it made it to the second page before some said somthing like this. LOL

If anyone local whants to check it out, I wouldn't mind. But I might put you to work.
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car is looking good Brandon...
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Wow Brandon....nice! Always good to see ppl thinking outside of the box Keep us updated!

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