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Old 12-23-15, 04:38 AM
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^This. And guesstimate using the oz. window on the side...usually erring on the side of more based on anticipated gallons to fill up. Takes 30 seconds...done. No little bottles, no funnel and no jabbing tools into my fuel filler neck.
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That's what I do with the Echo 2-stroke pre-measured bottle.
Works great.
Precise, not messy and cheap.

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I bought some squeeze bottles like this:


and marked OZ lines across them. I keep 2 in the bin w/ rag in a ziploc baggie.


I use my Pettit Protek-R w/ pump & hose to refill the squeeze bottles. Pretty easy setup IMO.
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Lots of ingenuity in this thread -- very cool.

My objective was to make it easier for the next guy like me and I'd say mission accomplished.

Thanks to everyone who's contributing!

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Originally Posted by Tem120
you dont really need to hold the flapper open , even if you use a quart bottle (which I use) it will go down into the tank maybe not as fast as if you had it open but it makes life alot easier I think ..
I think you do need to hold the flapper open. Theres drains in the filler area, one on each side. If the oil pools up in there, it will go down the drain.
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Originally Posted by Fuhnortoner
I think you do need to hold the flapper open. Theres drains in the filler area, one on each side. If the oil pools up in there, it will go down the drain.
Its not 100% necessary, but I don't want to be careful, nor want to spend more time than needed when fueling up. Holding the trap door open (with whatever method/tool) speeds up the process, and the oil goes where it should go.

BTW - Doing the quarts, keeps me from having to restock on 2 stroke oil. I can fit 6-8 quarts on the floor behind the driver seats (all lined up), that means that I get 12 to 16 gas tanks before having to restock on 2 stroke oil.
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Its not 100% necessary, but I don't want to be careful, nor want to spend more time than needed when fueling up. Holding the trap door open (with whatever method/tool) speeds up the process, and the oil goes where it should go.

BTW - Doing the quarts, keeps me from having to restock on 2 stroke oil. I can fit 6-8 quarts on the floor behind the driver seats (all lined up), that means that I get 12 to 16 gas tanks before having to restock on 2 stroke oil.
It IS 100% necessary IF all the oil you pour in doesnt reach the fuel tank. If you put in 5 gallons of fuel, and you measure out 5oz of oil, and only 4oz of oil reaches the tank, your mix is too lean.
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I use the normal octane boost bottles that are clear. I have a 5, 10, & 15 oz at all times in my bin as I run E85 so most of the time I fill up when able so I am not always on empty.

You also dont need to depress the flap to get it into your tank. Thank makes a messy job messier!
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Originally Posted by Fuhnortoner
I think you do need to hold the flapper open. Theres drains in the filler area, one on each side. If the oil pools up in there, it will go down the drain.
It will go down the vent or vapor return holes, which either lead to the filler neck or tank itself. Either way, the oil goes where it's needed. No need to stick tools into your filler neck unless your trying to poor at a rate nearing the rate of the gas pump itself.

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If you're worried about the oil getting trapped in the vent tube or something.... Just use a little gas from the nozzle right after the pump turns off. Pull the nozzle out real quick and the small amount of fuel dribbling will flush the oil out of the vent tube and into the tank.
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There will probably be the smallest residual amount of oil left at the filler opening or that little "trap door". Not nearly enough to make a difference. The moment you begin to pump fuel, it will quickly wash whatever is there down into the tank.

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Guys,

If you go on Amazon, they sell screw-on spouts for oil bottles. The one I got has a twist-close tip, and it allows you to just pour into the tank straight from your Idemetsu (or whatever) bottle without any devices to open the fuel filler flap.

Also, I picked up an oil bottle mount (with rubber strap) mount intended for snowmobiles and ATVs to mount in the trunk so you don't need to take an oily bottle/rags/funnel in and out of the interior. I have an alcantera center console to it was only a matter of time till that was going to get dripped on on the way to and from the bins.

I don't have my car or I'd post pics.
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
Guys,

If you go on Amazon, they sell screw-on spouts for oil bottles. The one I got has a twist-close tip, and it allows you to just pour into the tank straight from your Idemetsu (or whatever) bottle without any devices to open the fuel filler flap.

Also, I picked up an oil bottle mount (with rubber strap) mount intended for snowmobiles and ATVs to mount in the trunk so you don't need to take an oily bottle/rags/funnel in and out of the interior. I have an alcantera center console to it was only a matter of time till that was going to get dripped on on the way to and from the bins.

I don't have my car or I'd post pics.
I've seen these also at Advance Auto Parts - the screw on funnel.

The only reason I prefer the method I described is that if you use the quarts with the funnel, you still have to clean up the funnel and deal with the residue or drip.

Even though it's an extra step to pre-measure and fill those bottles up, it eliminates any cleanup whatsoever at the pump.

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The one I got has a closeable spout, so nothing to clean up really.

Amazon.com: Hopkins FloTool 10100 Spill Saver Oil Spout: Automotive Amazon.com: Hopkins FloTool 10100 Spill Saver Oil Spout: Automotive
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Trunk mount:

Amazon.com: Ski-Doo OEM Extra Oil Spare Quart Holder/Caddy/Bracket/Mount Kit REV, RF 861804000: Automotive Amazon.com: Ski-Doo OEM Extra Oil Spare Quart Holder/Caddy/Bracket/Mount Kit REV, RF 861804000: Automotive
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Originally Posted by MiamiFD3S
I've seen these also at Advance Auto Parts - the screw on funnel.

The only reason I prefer the method I described is that if you use the quarts with the funnel, you still have to clean up the funnel and deal with the residue or drip.

Even though it's an extra step to pre-measure and fill those bottles up, it eliminates any cleanup whatsoever at the pump.

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You don't need a funnel dude. Pour the quart in the filler neck, do nothing to the flapper and all will be fine I promise.....Or fill up your bins with junky crap and ketchup bottles, thats a pretty sweet idea too.

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Originally Posted by DriftDreamzSS
You don't need a funnel dude. Pour the quart in the filler neck, do nothing to the flapper and all will be fine I promise.....Or fill up your bins with junky crap and ketchup bottles, thats a pretty sweet idea too.
Lol I agree you don't need a funnel dude! I know the oil will go down the spout without a tool. I just prefer to have ketchup bottles and crap in my bins

I use them primarily to counter-balance my weight. I find it usually allows me to carry 0.00000001 more G in turns.

If you aren't doing this, you won't realize the true handling potential of your FD.

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I use this from WalMart. Has measurements on the sides and you can twist on and off.
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^ I have the same as above^ I took a utility knife and trimmed the lip of the black ring so it doesnt catch on the lip of flapper. Oil goes in in seconds and clean up is easy, of course not easy enough for some.
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^ screw that funnel type thing, i bought 2 and both of those ***** leaked on me not only through the hose, but around the twisty part aswell when locking it shut or open
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^ screw that funnel type thing, i bought 2 and both of those ***** leaked on me not only through the hose, but around the twisty part aswell when locking it shut or open
Yeah, my philosophy with the car in general is: "less is more". If I can eliminate the need for a funnel and also package the pre-mix oil in a way that's impossible to spill, than that's what I want.

You can't go wrong with several of the setups in this thread, but look for the ones with the least attachments/steps at the pump and that's the way to go IMHO.

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Originally Posted by MiamiFD3S
...look for the ones with the least attachments/steps at the pump and that's the way to go IMHO.

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Agree. Quart bottle...open...guesstimate... pour... close bottle...add fuel. Done.
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this is what I use. 12oz without the coke lol
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Seriously people really over think this. A fuel additive bottle or even a soda bottle is all you need! Having messy funnels and un-needed tools to push down the flapper just clutters up your car and over complicates a VERY easy process.
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DEAR GOD. I just use a funnel and a couple of squirts of brake clean to clean out the funnel. Some of you are over engineering.


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