Possible 1993 VR R1 Sale
06-05-12, 01:26 PM
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Possible 1993 VR R1 Sale
I own a red 1993 R1 with 46k on the odometer. The car is completely stock, except for the Aluminum radiator and AST. Garage kept, winter stored. Never any major engine or body work, basically a creampuff. What's it worth if I decide to sell? Any interest??
06-05-12, 01:49 PM
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Hard to sell relatively stock R1 (even with low miles) at 15k when you can buy a modded one with relatively the same miles on engine for same price.
May find a buyer looking to keep her stock but I would venture to guess most will end up modding dp/IC/radiator/etc
May find a buyer looking to keep her stock but I would venture to guess most will end up modding dp/IC/radiator/etc
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06-05-12, 02:32 PM
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I respectfully disagree...but it all depends on where the buyer puts their "value".
Unless you plan on keeping the car stock, I think in the long run you are better off buying a modded car for 15K vs a stock one for 15k...even if it is just reliability mods.
I don't think 15K is far fetched for what OP has though..just may be more difficult to get that sale.
Unless you plan on keeping the car stock, I think in the long run you are better off buying a modded car for 15K vs a stock one for 15k...even if it is just reliability mods.
I don't think 15K is far fetched for what OP has though..just may be more difficult to get that sale.
06-05-12, 02:44 PM
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I respectfully disagree...but it all depends on where the buyer puts their "value".
Unless you plan on keeping the car stock, I think in the long run you are better off buying a modded car for 15K vs a stock one for 15k...even if it is just reliability mods.
I don't think 15K is far fetched for what OP has though..just may be more difficult to get that sale.
Unless you plan on keeping the car stock, I think in the long run you are better off buying a modded car for 15K vs a stock one for 15k...even if it is just reliability mods.
I don't think 15K is far fetched for what OP has though..just may be more difficult to get that sale.
06-05-12, 02:54 PM
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AGREE...but stock cars have their own problems...even original ~20 year old ones.
I've seen a lot of stock cars not good because they never got any "reliability" mods and were driven hard even with low mileage...or they were screwed up by Mazda trained mechanics...hell Mazda sold cars that required TSB for engine fires in the beginning lol.
Again...to each his own. I wouldn't drop 15k on a stock FD but I know some purists out there who might....What the hell do I know thoughg...I'm just some guy that would bastardize a CYM by putting an LSx in it lol.
I've seen a lot of stock cars not good because they never got any "reliability" mods and were driven hard even with low mileage...or they were screwed up by Mazda trained mechanics...hell Mazda sold cars that required TSB for engine fires in the beginning lol.
Again...to each his own. I wouldn't drop 15k on a stock FD but I know some purists out there who might....What the hell do I know thoughg...I'm just some guy that would bastardize a CYM by putting an LSx in it lol.
06-05-12, 03:04 PM
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I have to agree with evot23. I'd say the community here is unreasonable...out of love...regarding the value and price of these cars in a stock condition. I believe people who "value" these as collector items are out of their minds unless you want to wait 20yrs and then perhaps prove me wrong.
I wouldn't pay above 10k for the OP's car. Anything above 10k? Better be getting an FD with a solid engine + quite a few aftermarket parts.
I wouldn't pay above 10k for the OP's car. Anything above 10k? Better be getting an FD with a solid engine + quite a few aftermarket parts.
06-05-12, 06:03 PM
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tard of teh century
I had bought my 93 R1 completely stock back in 06 for 15K even. Had either 40K or 42K miles on it and the owner had all the receipts for any work and maintence done on it. It was garage kept it's entire life and the underbody was retardedly clean. None the less, every bit of rubber on the car was shot and when I took off the upper intake manifold it seemed like everything was just crumbling when touched. So in my opinion no matter how well kept the car is, as soon as something small breaks it's going to turn into a lot of small things to get replaced along with it.
06-05-12, 06:15 PM
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Paint/body/weather stripping
Interior
Engine
SUSP
Trans
Diff
Tires
Glass
Anything broken missing or leaking
If everything is very good it's a 15k car easily (probably not the case with close to 50k miles). However if it needs paint it's a 12k car. If it sort of needs paint it's a 13k car. Now start adding anything else wrong with it and it may very well be a 10k or lower car as it sits right now.
NOPE at this time it's all about the condition of the car and the mods are not that important in fact if the car has any aftermarket body parts or a single turbo/non sequential the value may be reduced unless those mods are done correctly which again is super rare even when done by rotary shops with good reputations because they are limited by the customers budget. No AC or PS even harder to sell etc...etc... There are rare occasions when you'll find a properly modded FD but that's more difficult than finding a nice stock one.
For example FD3Boost (Dave's old car) is for sale now at 25k. It doesn't have a radio, AC, PS, No ABS has been repainted a non stock color etc...etc... basically all the wrong things done that would ordinarily reduce it's value but to some folks those are all the right mods done the right way so different strokes for different folks.
06-05-12, 06:20 PM
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I had bought my 93 R1 completely stock back in 06 for 15K even. Had either 40K or 42K miles on it and the owner had all the receipts for any work and maintence done on it. It was garage kept it's entire life and the underbody was retardedly clean. None the less, every bit of rubber on the car was shot and when I took off the upper intake manifold it seemed like everything was just crumbling when touched. So in my opinion no matter how well kept the car is, as soon as something small breaks it's going to turn into a lot of small things to get replaced along with it.
Maybe the garage was in the desert
06-05-12, 08:16 PM
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I guess i'm in the minority so far as i wouldn't buy a stock knowing full well I wouldnt keep it that way. I'd look at a modded one first...but I guess you have to be in the mindset that you're willing to work bugs out, deal with repairs and previous owner quirks. With the knowledge I have now about these cars, stock isnt for me unless the price is in the 10,11k range.
I think first time buyers may feel safer knowing one was stock (?) but just not me.
I think first time buyers may feel safer knowing one was stock (?) but just not me.
06-05-12, 08:18 PM
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The orginal owner said that was the one thing he was concerned about and after he described the condition I was like no worries.
I've owned several low mileage cars and they all had very good vac lines. I also remember driving all way down to GA to look at a car with 28k miles that had faded paint, bad vacc lines etc..... I should of known the buyer only wanted 12k. I thought I scored big time LOL. Hey on the bright side the interior was good.
