nismosilvia270r

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does anyone have any idea what durometer the himni motor mounts are.

i asked them three times and all they tell me is that they absorb all vibrations for 650HP engines.

im looking for mounts in the 60a-80a range without breaking the piggy bank

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Not sure the number but the Himni are pretty hard. I bought the Excessive 65D mounts after the Himni and they were much less harsh inside the car. YMMV.

Grip

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Himni is a garbage company.

JTurtonRX_7

I have himni motor mounts, only issue is a slight vibration at 1200 rpm. Otherwise great motor mounts, im happy with my purchase because I can snag 3rd now without issues.

XLR8

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I am 100% happy with my IR Performance mounts. They offer 2 different stifness ratings. Hit them up, and Ihor will take care or you.

Gringo Grande

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Question: If you ask a company 3x and they cannot or will not provide information about their product, why would you want to buy from them? Himini has a VERY hit and miss reputation on this forum regarding their customer service.

I know there are more out there but 3 companies that make motor mounts that many people are happy with include: IRP, Banzai Racing and Excessive (which has a different design from everyone else IIRC).

My apologies in advance for sounding harsh but if $150-$250 (depending if you have two steel arms or not) for motor mounts is breaking the bank for you...this car is really going to hurt you at some time in the future!

nismosilvia270r

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It's simply unreasonable to ask someone to pay four times as much as material costs especially when there is no real r&d involved beyond making a bunch of different stiffness and trying them out.

I'm convinced people think parts MUST be expensive because the rx7 is a top notch car. That's just dumb.

What do a DIY poly mount at 65a, excessive 65a poly mount, and (insert name of customer raping company here) 65a poly mount have in common?
- they're all 65a poly mounts.
Difference?
- price
Why?
Because for some reason people like to pay a lot more for the same thing.

Himni could **** on my lawn if they wanted to, as long as I get 65a poly mounts for third of the price of other companies.

The car isn't hurting me at all. I've replaced many parts and havent spent more than I do on any of my other cars. Smart shopping.

No offense taken. I realized some people prefer to pay a lot for things and say that product is better.

I've decided not to get Himni btw. General consensus is that they are too stiff.

bufferovrflo

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I've had Himni mounts for over a year now and zero complaints. I like your approach OP; this car isn't a damn Lexus and shouldn't purr like one either.

XLR8

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You could always buy a cylinder of different durometer polyurethane from ebay and make your own mounts. Why pay $90 at all? That's just dumb.

nismosilvia270r

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boom. just may do that

Kiku

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you pay for the convenience of having a bolt on kit....and that someone sourced all the parts for you.

i purchased the banzai-racing kit. Definitely stiffened up the drive train but its not unbearable. Gives the car a nice purring feedback at low idle.

Scrub

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This isn't directed at you xlr8, I know you're just making a point, but I wanted to add to it.

Why should the few rotary businesses we have take the time to figure out what materials will work, which will be too stiff and which will be too soft at all then if you can do it yourself for a fraction of the cost. Motor mount stiffness is subjective. Would you have known what to order if it wasn't posted somewhere on the forum?

Personally if someone has taken the time to make something that works well and it's easily available for a reasonable price, I'd rather support that business.

I'm all for DIY projects, but time is also money, unless you've got lots of free time. If it's going to take me a few hours to source the parts, then cut and fit those parts I'm really not saving that much in the end. It's a little ignorant to say it's dumb to but a prepackaged product that's ready to install when you can make it yourself cheaper, don't you think? Saving money is great, but you can't really knock someone who wants to purchase a part instead of making it themselves.

How much do you think it costs Dominos to make a large pizza? Maybe $2? BUT THEY SELL IT FOR $10!? INSANITY! You can make you own pizza and save a few bucks but I have better things to do and the pizza guy does a better job anyway
*End rant*

+1

Well said.

Gringo Grande

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To some people time is money. I'd suggest a large part of FD owners LOVE to tinker and DIY...by circumstance or necessity the car seems to attract that type of owner. I can certainly understand the DIY desire with many parts and projects. That being said...

Let's look at the OP's post: He's contacted Himni FOUR times now with no response? Apart from the obvious outstanding customer service he's receiving, time has been wasted, even if it was four emails and he still doesn't have an answer.

So now he's going to "Make his own". Completely logical to take the time to find, buy, have shipped and then cut our poly. Sweet! We've got motor mounts! Oh wait...damn...now we need to source various pieces of hardware! Crap more time and money!

From the pictures, it looks like the Himni mounts are missing at least one piece I see on other kits. When it comes down to it, motor mounts, from a time/money perspective were easier for me to order for $150 and have it bolt on...boom...took all of 5 minutes to order and 10 to install...less than the OP has invested at the moment.

Totally don't understand the OP's thought process but go nuts and let us know when you've got 2,3,4+ hours invested in your motor mounts and that you've "saved" $100.

I'm all for the DIY if you genuinely want to DIY but don't pretend you are "saving" money and sticking it to all of those companies "ripping you off" when you are losing time. Good luck!

RENESISFD

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^ I completely understand the logic "time is money"

There are many instances where it is easier and cheaper for me to buy a finished product simply because of the time saved if I had done the project myself.

I have the ability to work side jobs as a mechanic for select people I chose to conduct business with and by me working on their heavy construction equipment I can make more money an hour that I would save by wasting my time trying to make a product for my car. So for me I actually save money by purchasing a completed product from some vendor here.

One example is the Sakebomb garage HID headlights, The parts to complete the kit without labor is approximately $450.00 however it would take me about 10 hours of labor to make the lights. In those 10 hours I could be fixing a backhoe and make more than the 450.00 I woluld save if I made the retrofit myself.

I know I am fully capable to make the lights but it was easier for me to purchase them finished so all I have to do is install them. In fact I retrofitted the FX-R projector into my girlfriends 2001 focus but I did that only because no one makes a quality kit for that car.


But if the OP does not have the ability to make extra money on the side and would be doing nothing productive if he was not making the motor mounts than it would definitely be money saved.

GoodfellaFD3S

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^well said Johnny-o. Nice avatar too.

Time is money indeed. IMO If someone typically makes $8 an hour at their job as a Walmart cashier, then they'll be much more inclined to bitch and complain about the price of things and attempt to go the 'DIY' route.

nismosilvia270r

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this is my specific situation. and this is why what i have said, applies to me. if it applies to you, or doesnt, then bonus.

i have an interest in cars.

this interest does not correlate time with money. because i dont expect to get paid for something i like to do. i fly helicopters for a living. ive done it for free, and i wouldnt mind doing it for free again.

if i had the tools to do everything i wanted to do to my cars, i would happily do them with my time and i wouldnt feel like i lost money doing so.

it DOES seem like the rx7 attracts owners with more money than time. also, attracts owners who would rather make money doing whatever else, than working on their car.
- my wife is one person who would love for me to be one of these owners, but there isnt much else that i would rather be doing than working on my cars.

p.s. a quick CTRL+F found that "ripping you off" was never stated in any of the posts, so please dont put words in our mouths. i dont feel like those companies are ripping anyone off. people most certainly will pay for the convenience. I, for one, would pay, if it were an inconvenience. working on cars is not an inconvenience for me.

btw himnis are 95a. too stiff for me. i like the softees, haha

ps.s i do not work at walmart, but my income does average to about $8/h given that my duty day is >12 hours per day, seven days per week. and damn proud of it.


pss.s the more i read over the posts i feel more inclined to add to mine. it might be worth noting that while i am "wasting time pretending to DIY" i am actually DIY to one of my other cars. I am no stranger to multitasking, and i do so pretty efficiently.

pssss.s my current stock mounts are not damaged, so the car is not deadlined. i still drive it frequently. i would certainly agree with the comments about wasting time, if the car was sitting at some garage costing me storage fees, or rental car fees, or whatever else could make time=money.



if the prices were actually reasonable, i owuld agree.
also, i cannot make a pizza, but i can make a poly mount. i guess i pick and choose where to spend my convenience

GoodfellaFD3S

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As a proud veteran who served five years active duty Army, I feel you on that

Glad you didn't take offense, as that was a general statement not directed at you in particular.

RENESISFD

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^^ Well, I cant argue if you get enjoyment out of it.


Myself and a friend of mine made a single turbo kit for my car mainly because we wanted to do it, and be able to say we did it. You can't put a price on that. It would have been MUCH cheaper for me to purchase a used kit on the forum and go from there, but I would not have been able to say WE did it. Plus we made the kit from scratch in about 2 months much faster than if I had ordered a new kit.


Goodfella, you like my avatar eh?

nismosilvia270r

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apologies for saying its dumb to pay for convenience. i realize i am willing to spend more time than others on my cars, and everyone has their own specific time vs money situation.

to each their own


edit. no offense taken. the internet doesnt exactly put everyone's life out there for everyone to analyze--- [facebook]

and i am a cheap bastard. i have no shame because i once did work that min wage job and i guess the mentality never left me.


HOOAH! goodfella indeed

XLR8

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I bought a 12" cylinder of 90A durometer polyurethane for around $15 from a company store on Ebay. They had many options. If you search you should find it. I made my own FC poly mount quite easily.

Yeah Scrub, I was poking fun. Glad you caught it.

Ah, the FD and it's infinite ways to spend all our money. Bring those RZ seats!! ......LOL

vrx8

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I have the Delrin Mounts from ebay, love them. Motor is solid very little vibration.

HIMNI Racing

nismosilvia270r: As we explained before, we do not give out our mount compound information. We worked directly with a stock disputer to achieve our blend. They are not a stranded off the self shore range as it was imposable to nail down the perfect result using any of the basic available stocks. This is why we buy our stock in bulk & do production batches rather then a few sets here & there. Anyone that has ordered their HR mounts & landed between our batches know that their can be a delay due to this steep stock lead time. To confirm, we did not just say it will handle X amount of HP with no vibrations but rather did our best to describe to you what you can expect from them in terms of feel & results. We also told you at that time that we do not give out our compound info. It's disappointing that we spend time to reply to you & that you greatly downplay any effort we put into our multiple responses to you.

We of course don't give out our compound info #1, because random 'shops' are constantly attempting to rip off many of our products, as usual, & #2, because it's more involved than just comparing it to a standard shore density. We worked for many years to hit that sweet spot of perfect smooth feel while locking the engine solid can not offer certain details about how. And in the end it doesn't matter how your mother board works exactly, only that it does. Keep in mind that we have been producing rotary motor mounts for 9 years + now.

JTurtonRX_7: Are your mounts Red or black? If black, the red ones (the newest, most up to date compound) are the ones you want if you are looking for OEM smooth feel & rock solid engine stbillity. For anyone with the older black compound looking for the butter smooth feel of the red, please email us & we are happy to discount the newest ones for you, on exchange of the old, no matter how long you've had them. You must be the original purchaser of the mounts. We do this because our customers & the results you get from anything we sell matter most to us.

Grip: I'm sorry, what? Who says stuff like that? We work 7 days a week with our main priority being take care of everyone of our customers no matter what they need. Our gratification comes from making each one happy, their buying experience enjoyable & attempting to exceed their expectations. Certainly no one can make everyone happy but we will continue give it our all anyway. We quite literally live & breath rotary 24/7 & are contently looking out for & giving back to the rotary community. Even right now is after hours & I'm addressing this because a forum member brought it to our attention... I'd rather be eating dinner right now.

If anyone has any questions, please email us direct at himniracing@digital.net as we sadly have zero time for the forums these days. On a side note... The buzz on the HR limited edition hand crafted exotic wood shift ***** with engraved rotor on top to fit all S5 & S6 RX-7's is fact. These are very limited guys, with less then 19 made & I believe off hand, only 15 available for release. (coming this week) We do not plan to produce any more after this & was thing that landed on my desk as something I couldn't pass up to make available to you guys. Boost hard, stay safe!

nismosilvia270r

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you're descriptions are much more subjective than the comparisons i have received through the forums. the messages tell me nothing important and still do not address my question. your efforts to write small fictional stories did not help me. i came here

others have said that they are comparable to other mounts in the 90-100a durometer range. although, not scientific, it's still the most feedback that ive gotten so far

HIMNI Racing

Again, ours are not comparable to any of the others. If we were to tell you it's like a certain density, it would not be correct information because the two are not comparable. It's not at all like a 60A, etc & there for we do not advertize any comparable durameter rating. An accurate description is key & comparing apples & oranges using the same system of measurement one 'believes' will work as a definitive answer, does not apply here. In explaining that they hold the engine with next to zero movement under full load, that in of it's self tells you that they are nothing like a 60A, as a 60A would allow the engine to flop around more than stock. I can lie to you if you like? Lets go with 70A then. Tune into our next post where we will describing waste gate applications based on HP ranges followed clutch kits by HP & not torque.

nismosilvia270r

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your lie is contradictory

and your sarcasm is unwarranted

perhaps your cold dinner spoiled your mood.

difficult for me to believe that there is a blend of polyurethane that does not act like polyurethane. that is strictly my position on this.

cant figure it out, but tried closing the thread because the thread has met its purpose and has since turned into something else. himni need not defend its long established company in a forum thread