Actually, I may need to go back and look now to verify. I ordered some replacement parts for the stock headlights when I installed my KS kit and I can't remember if I ordered new arms or not. It's been several years since I installed the kit. ;) I do remember that the kit reuses the stock motors.

Gordon said his kit came with new motors. I assumed this with my post and also assumed the only way to control the height of the popup without a pivot controller is to modify the arms, which I believe KS does for you with their kit.

I have the KS kit and it does not come with motors.

http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/FD...5/DSCF0394.jpg

Gordon may have mistaken some of the equipment for his HID version (early on) for motors, but the KS kit uses the stock motors.

We're all preaching from the same book are we not? KS = shortened arms which I would think comes with the kit. The evo-r ones = need a pivot controller or shortened arms, neither of which comes with the kit. As a matter of fact, you can't order the evo-r kit, at least not thru the website so that may have been the only kit available.

eBay. :suspect:

Not available thru eBay either I don't think.

message him. He offers it with the pivot controller for like $400

neither.

look at my sleepy eye kit
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wrong!

wow, id hate to say but if it wasnt for the KS sport kit pics your post would had made me go with the evo-r hid kit and just do some minor but manageable modification (fitment, cutoff, etc).


are the KS original or replica Gmonsen and mahjik? they look amazing btw:icon_tup:


so either way it will mostly be for aesthetic purposes.

Ive seen fd's with non pop up lights and they look horrific, bubble covers? wtf? horrible fitment! and nevertheless bad lighting.

i guess its going to the wire on what i decide to do, but all your post have been very insightful:icon_tup:.
thanks for all the replies. and natey keep us posted on the evo-r/ebay kit:)

Sorry, but I just don't like the look of that. The entire car is rounded, including the front bumper lights, and then you add a rectangular sleepy light. Not good IMO. I know the stockers are rectangular also, but why not improve this when doing the upgrade?

Both are original. Gordon has the HID version, mine is the non-HID version. There are several others on the forum with them as there was a Group Buy for them a few years back.

Since we rarely see pop up lights these days and this car is meant to have pop ups, I'm for sleepy vs sleek..

I don't blame you the KS are pure hotness. Since I'm keeping my car till the day I die I just may purchase some and have them ready for whenever I feel like going retro.

We're talking headlights that you can actually BUY without lurking craigslist for years to come. ;)

Those Veilside lights are nice (!), but pretty much unattainable. You either got lucky or went to Japan...and got lucky.

I'll say pop-ups (sleepy or not) until I see a sleek light kit that I actually like and works. I'd be open to the idea, but it hasn't been invented yet.

I went with the RE-Amemiya kit. I like how they are flush with the body. I belive the evo's have a bubble in it. And then bought HID's, Xenon's for Amazon. The 2 head lights alone were $1,200. Still have to install the kit.

The Evo-R kit came today. From the looks of it, I'd say it's pretty much identical to the KS kit. Once I install them, I'll update with pics...and for the record, I'll definitely need to find someway to sleep-ify my pop-ups.

Packed well, got here quick, and the bulbs look pretty nice. I sure hope the cut-off is halfway decent.

sweet!
hows the plastic cover/housing....quality or crap?
can you post pics of the kit, or pm them to me?

Here are a few pics of the kit. If anyone wants different angles or hi-res or whatever just ask. :)

Pic # 3 is the inside of the shroud. Looks like fiberglass to me. It seems pretty strong to me...maybe f/g body kit quality..? I definitely wouldn't call it flimsy. One more thing to notice is all the bubble wrap and other packing material around...it was packed pretty damn well, IMO.

It'll probably be a few days until I either locate a Pivot controller or modify my stock h/l motors or arms. I'll post some installed pics ASAP.

oh wow, those things look quality. the bezel itself looks pretty sturdy.

done!

ok thanks for everyone's input/vote.

i went ahead and ordered some re-a single airduct sleek lights.

and when they arrive(hopefully b4 SS) ill try to make something similar to weals old setup.... pure sex!

so like Montego said "have them ready for whenever I feel like going retro":lol:

.....
The FD was meant for pop ops ..
Nothing compairs

Sex on wheels

http://www.wallpapergarage.com/libra...1280x800_1.jpg

sleepy knightsport. The best....

Btw where can I get the KS headlights? The ones I found cost as a fifth of my car thats about 3000+ dollar...