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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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Banzai Racing would be my next stop!

Keep us informed about the car, we can all learn from your mistakes. Its entertaining to.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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Oh man, this ordeal was crazy, I dont know how I missed the tread till now. You need to see if there is anyway you can get that engine back. You should have your new mechanics open it up and see if it was really blown or not. The comment about the bad coil sounds spot on to me....its exactly what I was thinking when you said the coil was bad.

Even if it cost money I'd buy it back. Then use it against them in court when you find out it was a good motor.

Do you happen to know if they did a compression test??? What were the results? You need to ask them for the compression test results then when they dont have them look at them shocked and say " you mean you didnt test it? Then how did you know it was bad?"

OMG - Man I feel so sorry for you

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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 03:11 AM
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READ THIS SITE!

Make sure you go through this whole checklist in the "Advice on buying a used FD" (even though you allready bought the car). There's also tons of other useful information in there.

I like this:

"Dealerships

The Mazda dealer service department may be the greatest threat to these 3rd generation cars. DO NOT go to a dealer for service unless you get a recommendation FROM ANOTHER RX-7 owner first. Some dealers do a great job. However, many dealers do not appear to be properly trained to service these cars and do more damage than repairs. There are enough good dealers and independent shops that specialize in this particular vehicle that service should not be a major problem."
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by 93BlackFD
$400 for pads?
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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First - Sorry, not $400 for just pads - I had to replace the front calipers, too.

Second - Guess what? My car's back in the shop. There is a major coolant leak. I took most of the hoses off and removed the airbox trying to find it myself, and I found that one little outlet on the water pump housing was leaking, shooting coolant everywhere when the engine was revved. Good news is, the part is under warrantee, so I get the job done for free. Sadly, they won't have the part in until next week, so I'm stuck driving the Jeep again. Maybe it's best, anyway - there is snow on the ground here. Anyway, I'll try to keep everyone posted, and thanks for the interest

- Tyler
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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Really late to this thread, but taking a rotary to the Mazda dealer is without a doubt one of the "7-sins". Sorry to hear about the crap your going through.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by disturbd
First - Sorry, not $400 for just pads - I had to replace the front calipers, too.

Second - Guess what? My car's back in the shop. There is a major coolant leak. I took most of the hoses off and removed the airbox trying to find it myself, and I found that one little outlet on the water pump housing was leaking, shooting coolant everywhere when the engine was revved. Good news is, the part is under warrantee, so I get the job done for free. Sadly, they won't have the part in until next week, so I'm stuck driving the Jeep again. Maybe it's best, anyway - there is snow on the ground here. Anyway, I'll try to keep everyone posted, and thanks for the interest

- Tyler
Good god man, get that car down to Chris @ Banzai before you go mad!
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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I really miss my car - on the way back down here, while driving in the crappy jeep, I passed 3 "modified" civics, a prelude, an MR2, an IS300, and a couple of Integras with exhaust! I feel so deprived not being able to race them! I need my car back ASAP, but at least I don't have to fork over any money this time.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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Is it just me or does anyone else suspect that there was never anything wrong with the engine, just a bad coil.
If they replaced the engine and they still had the problem and then replaced the coils and the problem went away, logic would dictate that the coils were the problem, not the motor. Did they compression test the engine before deciding to replace it?
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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Yes, they did - I know that for sure. (At least, that's what they told me). I think, the coil went bad, a boost sensor was already bad, and I had a hole in my turbo piping - and all that caused the engine to rip itself apart. Basically, that's just my opinion; who knows for sure? I just want my car back and in working condition - for once
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 01:49 PM
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The 3 problems U listed should not really harm the engine, unless it went like that for a long time.

And it would hardly be drivable in that condition. It would probably bearly start, if at all. Then smoke black smoke and pop when running. it would have no power either.


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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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I still don't have my car
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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Bring your car down to Columbus Ohio. I dont think we are that far from you. We will fix all the problems.

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 02:26 PM
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Please never take your car to the dealer again. For $4k you could tow your car to us, we would replace the motor and you would still have $2k left over for performance parts
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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I don't plan on ever taking it there again, and trust me - if I had know about you guys before my engine died, or even when my clutch went out, I would have never taken it to them in the first place. It was a matter of convenience that has turned into my worst nightmare - and it never seems to end. I hope to see you guys soon so you can install some aftermarket stuff, if 1.) I ever get my car back, and 2.) I ever have any money again

- Tyler
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by disturbd
I don't plan on ever taking it there again, and trust me - if I had know about you guys before my engine died, or even when my clutch went out, I would have never taken it to them in the first place. It was a matter of convenience that has turned into my worst nightmare - and it never seems to end. I hope to see you guys soon so you can install some aftermarket stuff, if 1.) I ever get my car back, and 2.) I ever have any money again

- Tyler
Hey Tyler... a little late...

but a burnt spot on an ignition coil suggests poor grounding. The negative current wants too badly to return to the ground point and it will actually flow through the positive side (burning and screwing things up). If this is the case then it will probably burn out again in a few hundred miles. Just thought I'd let you in on that, actually heard that yesterday from an experienced mechanic.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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DEALERSHHHHHIPS R GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! charged me 400 bucks for a gay *** airbox( just the airbox no hoses or n/e thing else) ... -.-;; how gay! dealerships don't know n/e thing more than n/e other machanic know about rotary! plus they over price! BS restocking fee you can restock these NUTS!! sorry about my hostility! but i am very bitter towards dealerships! got screwed to many times! and took me a long time to finally learn NEVER GO TO DEALERSHIPS!
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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but a burnt spot on an ignition coil suggests poor grounding. The negative current wants too badly to return to the ground point and it will actually flow through the positive side (burning and screwing things up). If this is the case then it will probably burn out again in a few hundred miles
But if it took over 123,000 miles to burn out the first time, why would it burn out in only a few hundred this time (considering that I have already driven it over 500 miles)?
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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But if it took over 123,000 miles to burn out the first time, why would it burn out in only a few hundred this time (considering that I have already driven it over 500 miles)?
Well my guess is that the ground has gotten dirty, and it didn't necessarily start off that way

I guess it wouldn't have to be in a few hundred miles, just the one I heard about was going out every 150 miles.. lol.

Well if it happens again soon try and check out the grounding... otherwise, rock on I guess

Well I'm not an expert but I just thought I would try and help
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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You were right - this engine died too. It died when they were testing it at the dealership. Then they wanted to know if I had let it overheat or something (trying to blame it on me). Now they have to replace this engine.

Tyler
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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You've got to be kidding me!!! The new engine these clowns just installed is allready dead?!?! Get that thing the hell out of their grasp and over to Chris or Jason ASAP. I think it's time you took this matter to court, I'd sue them for the total amount you paid since you're right back where you started, if not, worse! keep us updating...
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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You've got to be kidding me!!! The new engine these clowns just installed is allready dead?!?! Get that thing the hell out of their grasp and over to Chris or Jason ASAP. I think it's time you took this matter to court, I'd sue them for the total amount you paid since you're right back where you started, if not, worse! keep us updating...

I would sue them for time and damages.. These guys are not qualified to work on a RX-7.. Let alone any car... An engine swap is an engine swap.. If they can't get that right, don't expect them to get anything right.



GET YOUR CAR BACK!




You would think you would listen to us.. We told you before you started this adventure it was a bad idea.. BTW what happened to the engine this time? it probably isn't really dead... Hell your 1st engine probably wasn't dead. (Not really sure about your 1st engine, you never described what happened)..




Good Luck,

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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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he already had his car at the dealership when he first started posting. i dont think making him feel worse right now is a good thing. i am sure he feels bad enough as it is.

does anyone know of a reputable mazda dealership he could at least call, tell them the situation, and find out what his rights legally might be?
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Meiogirl
he already had his car at the dealership when he first started posting. i dont think making him feel worse right now is a good thing. i am sure he feels bad enough as it is.

does anyone know of a reputable mazda dealership he could at least call, tell them the situation, and find out what his rights legally might be?

Well, we told him to stop them before they had the engine out.. because they couldn't figure out how to do it.. I guess it was already partially started.

And i am not trying to make him feal bad. I am trying to get him to take the car somewhere else for his own sanity. I bet he will hate RX-7s if he goes through much more with them. He needs to just trailer the car down to the RX7Store or A-Spec.



And like i said, good luck!

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