Hey I gotta get rid of my stock IC...guys at my local shop recommend a greddy FMIC for about a grand, but I see all these deals on Ebay...will I really get what I pay for with a less expensive intercooler or would this part be ok?...what I don't get is if this is 100% aluminum and has much more surface area than stock, then why wouldn't it work?...they're even claiming very little pressure drop, so do I need to spend top dollar? Thanks
Mark

only mods are 3" exhaust, Haltech E6K, air intake, nonseq



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/24x12...95965049QQrdZ1

 

why dont u get a v mount. FMIC wise i would get a hks or a greddy

 

With your mods, I'd reccomend a medium/large smic.

IMO fmic is better for upgraded turbos/higher boost. Dont get an ebay one either. If you go fmic you should go with a name brand becuae the will have the piping you'll need. You'll also need to relocate your radiator/fans/condensor which can be a pita (Not that I personally know that). Also, upgrading the radiator is reccomended. Custom ducting for the radiator/intercooler should also be made.

 

get the v-mount,you may have problem with the fmic

 

I am sure most people believe it is best to get a kit that comes with everything needed to do the install, such as all the IC pipes, brackets and hardware for all the relocation of the radiator and other parts. The Greddy 2row fmic (what I just installed) is a great front mount at the lowest price for any fmic, if you are looking to get a good fmic, and save some money, then this is the best or one of the best kits. I have heard that all the piping is what makes these kits cost so much more money, this kit is definately well worth the low price. You will have to get the greddy intake or make a custom intake though, the Greddy airinx is what I got and it fits tight, it is the only intake that will work without modification.

The greddy fmic looks the best, it does a great job of doing its job. For the most part I enjoyed doing the install, not too hard, just takes a long time. Check out all my pictures and install tips for it at the links below:

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/greddy-2row-fmic-airinx-intake-install-pictures-454605/
http://czfitnessproducts.com/tom94RX-7/GreddyFMIC/

My car doesn't run any hotter than stock as long as you use the fans and have the fan mod. I am sure it runs cooler with the fmic and using the fan mod, compared to when I got the car all stock with no fan mod (it did have a fluidyne rad when I got it). I also removed the a/c parts which may help cool the radiator a little.

Hope this helps your decision making, I definately would not and suggest you not buy the one on ebay.

 

i have a greddy 2 row fmic and i have NO type of overheating problems whatsoever..this summer i been using my car mostly in the afternoon where temps are at its peak and i have never been in a situation where the temps would even come close to overheating..

on the highway, the temps would rise 5-7 degrees but in city driving with the fans on keep it cool..not to mention heatsoak with a fmic is reduced..last summer when i had my smic, there wasnt one day where i didnt leave the hood open after each trip because i knew heatsoak would cook the engine bay..

 

I would say it depends on what you are going to do with the car in the future. I had a Greddy 2 row ready to go into my car but with the urging of a friend decided to get a VMIC since I want to track my car in the future.

 

I have the same experiences. My temps may raise a few degrees higher on the highway, but on average the rise is maybe about 2-3 degrees. I usually leave the a/c switch on to run the fans on low, and everyonce in a while I turn on the fan mod switch so the fans are on high if the temps get to 97c or higher, then they come down and are normally around 89C-94C, if they are at 89C I turn off the a/c switch for a little bit, I am always watching the temps and playing with the fan switches, but I also did that before getting the fmic after doing the fan mod and getting the PFC, it really doesn't run any hotter than before the fmic.

With the fan mod and having the switch on for the last 2 minutes of driving, my fans will run for 10 mins after shutting down the car, which does a great job too minimize heat soak and cool everything faster. Usually my temps are at about 91C when I shut off the car, if they are above 94C then sometimes I will pop the hood in the garage to help the cooling. The outlet on the fmic is always practically cold after shutting of the car (never warm or hot), and the inlet is very hot, so it must cool the air well I think.

 

Ok thanks guys....yeah I did have in mind the concern of blocking air flow to the rad with FMIC....glad it is working for some of you though ....I think I might like the idea of a V-mount....I know I should have included my future plans for the car so you guys can answer me easier....

like I listed before I have 3" greddy downpipe and cataback, Haltech E6K, air intake...other than the intercooler we're talking about, I will get either a Koyo or fluidyne rad ( which I would like opinions on too...but that's another topic), maybe a little improvement for fuel delivery for peace of mind....like maybe just a pump....and then Brembo cross drilled rotars and better pads and stainless steel lines which obviously have nothing to do with what we're talking about....just giving you the picture of what I want to do with my 7!....thanks
Mark

 

by the way fellas....the 7s looks GREAT in the pics...>WOOOOO best sports car in the world..

 

I am pretty sure just getting a pump is pointless unless you get bigger injectors at the same time, and also bigger injectors is no help without a upgraded fuel pump. This is all from my memory from reading this forum. I will also be needing a new pump and bigger injectors sometime in the future.

I just got done driving my car, some highway and some stop and go, I didn't have to use my fan switch or a/c switch, the fans would come on automatically (fc thermoswitch) and keep the temps at a good temp, never went higher than 97.

 

stock twins? 2row greddy fmic or if u have the $$ go vmount. Fluidyne rad, walbro fuel pump, change 850 to primary get 1600 for secondary and u need a aftermarket secondary fuel rail. Dont spend the the crazy $ amount for injectors just goto jegs and get 160lb Accell injectors which are equivalent to 1600cc.. Just get the harness for the injectors and solder them to your wireharness it worked for me.. I just went with a single turbo so i'm looking for a 3row greddy fmic..

 

I have a blitz, love it to death, when I switched, my temperatures never even creep above 92 C. Great unit, mounts in engine bay so airflow is still there.

 

cool guys I'll take that advice for sure...I didn't know the pump would be useless...for some reason I thought it could help improve fuel delivery a little bit even with stock injectors...but I could have been completely wrong there....the reason I didn't talk about the injectors and rail(although it's NEVER a bad idea to improve fuel delivery for these cars....)....I don't have super-crazy plans with the car most likely....probably not looking at making too much extra boost or anything, but I'll see....I have two buddies who got S2000s within the same month I got my 7 this summer, and they already hate how fast my car is with the few mods it has lol....so I'm doing alright with a few minor mods for now.....

 

hey madmax I just checked out Blitz's site to find their intercooler....that does seem like a cool option too!...drops in nice and easy in stock placement.....I didn't get too much technical info from the page I looked at though....is it a dramatic improvement?.cause it's still pretty small isn't it? do you know to what level of power it's recommended for? Thanks....another good option....

 

I remember reading many times that the stock fuel pump is all you need - it is plenty adequate for the stock fuel system, you will need bigger injectors before a better fuel pump, your injectors will max out before the pump can't pump enough fuel. If you get bigger injectors, then you also need/want a better pump to supply more fuel. I am no expert, someone correct me if I am wrong, this is all what I remember reading without searching for verification.

 

the vmount ic will come with koyo rad,i just want to let you know so you don't have to buy rad and end up sell it for so cheap.rotaryextreme.com where i got mine

 

fuel pump info - https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ight=fuel+pump

 

thanks for the fuel info tom!...


silver7...damn that v-mount setup does seem sweet....but pricey huh? Wow.

I'm gonna see whatelse madmax has to say about the Blitz...if it is a significant improvement over stock, it would be a nice option since it drops right in and, like the v-mount, won't block my rad....and it will cost less..good for you though silver the v does seem like a great plan

 

if you scroll about half way down..there's a stock mount replacement...price of 350 on the website but they have it listed with an opening bid of 175 on ebay...any reason this one wouldn't be good???

http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1437