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Old 07-16-02, 12:21 PM
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Outta gas....now it won't start

My rx7 was almost out of gas, and while I pulled it out of the garage and down the driveway, it ran out. So I went and got brand new gas for it....2 gallons. Well, I put that in and tried to start it, and there was nothing. It cranks over, but it sounds like it wants to start every once in a while, then it has nothing again....what the hell. Could it be flooded?
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Don't mean to scare you but my friend ran low on gas in his TII and ended up taking a apex seal with it. I never go below 1/4 tank because of that but hopefully, that's not your case.
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Ouch....that really sucks.....don't tell me that crap. Now I'm really worried.
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Prime the fuel system as outlined here - http://www.rx7turboturbo.com/robrobi...lease_fuel.htm Then try to start it. Good luck.
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Originally posted by jr
Prime the fuel system as outlined here - http://www.rx7turboturbo.com/robrobi...lease_fuel.htm Then try to start it. Good luck.
jr - you beat me to it.
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Thanks guys. I appreciate the help.
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This is why I have a fuel pressure gauge
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . . fuel pressure guage
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Yeah, well I don't yet.....but obviously it would help in this situation wouldn't it? Do you think that priming it will do the trick?
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Originally posted by 95R2-89TII Ground Zero
Yeah, well I don't yet.....but obviously it would help in this situation wouldn't it? Do you think that priming it will do the trick?
It could, that's even if fuel is getting to the engine compartment. Since you ran the tank bone dry, you might have picked up excessive dirt that may have been at the bottom of the tank, and that allow could have clogged up the pump and/or the filter.

It's always good to start with the basics, so make sure fuel is getting to the engine first. I'd first remove the hose from the fuel rail, put a big rag over it, and hot wire the pump until you see fuel is spitting out. since you ran it bone dry, it's good to do this first just to make sure the pump and filter are not clogged up.
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running the fuel pump without fuel will fry it
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Originally posted by Flybye

It could, that's even if fuel is getting to the engine compartment. Since you ran the tank bone dry, you might have picked up excessive dirt that may have been at the bottom of the tank, and that allow could have clogged up the pump and/or the filter.

It's always good to start with the basics, so make sure fuel is getting to the engine first. I'd first remove the hose from the fuel rail, put a big rag over it, and hot wire the pump until you see fuel is spitting out. since you ran it bone dry, it's good to do this first just to make sure the pump and filter are not clogged up.
That's what I thought about doing the other day, but I didn't have the time....so I figured that I would post on forum to see if anyone had a fix, or it had happened before.
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how many times did you crank the engine when you tried to restart it. Once when I ran out of gas (broken gas guage) i had to recrank it like 10-15 times to get the gas flowing again.
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Yeah I remember the first time I ran out of gas, I had to crank the hell out of the car before it started. Then a huge cloud of smoke came out of my muffler then it went away.
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GET MORE GAS! I bet it will start right up after that. there might not be enough gas in the plastic tray that the fuel pump pickup sits in. no gas = no pressure. hopefully it is as simple as that.
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All right here it is. I took the plugs out and the trailing were soaking wet....the leading were just damp. I cranked the engine over a few times and gas vapors came out of the holes that house the plugs. Then I put the plugs in and tried to crank it. The car turned over a few times, but wouldn't start. The battery went dead, so I jumped it, and it still wouldn't start. It feels like it wants to, but it just can't get all the way started. I don't know what it is. I took the fuel delivery line off after the filter and there was gas getting there. As I cranked it....my friend noticed a little white smoke coming from the tail pipe....HELP!!!!!!!!!
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Could it be the ignition pack....I hope not. That thing is tucked way under the intake...not a fun job.
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have you un flooded it yet? soaked plugs might not start
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Originally posted by c00lduke
have you un flooded it yet? soaked plugs might not start
Of course. That's what I did when I turned it over with the plugs out and the fuel pump fuse out. Then I dried the plugs and put them back in.
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Once plugs get wet, and after they are dry, they usually won't spark right....
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Originally posted by Flybye
Once plugs get wet, and after they are dry, they usually won't spark right....
So what you're saying is that if I get new plugs...and give those a shot...I should be okay....right?
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shoot some intake cleaner or even WD40 on the plugs... let them dry ... stick them in....
but put a bit of motor oil into the housings, resintall plugs... crank over and see if it will start now.

btw filling up the tank to say 1/2 is a good idea to see gaurentee the pump is sucking gas, instead of empty air if it happens the 2 gallons of gas isn't sitting near the pump.
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The problem with getting that much fuel to my car is the fact that it doesn't drive, so its hard for me to transport it....LOL
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Anyone thought of carbon lock yet? He only rolled it out of the driveway... I've heard that cold start + short distance + cold stop (can)= carbon lock... Just a thought, and something to check.


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Anyone thought of carbon lock yet? He only rolled it out of the driveway... I've heard that cold start + short distance + cold stop (can)= carbon lock... Just a thought, and something to check.


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edit: here's some info http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net/...t.html#CLOCKED
It doesn't have carbon lock, cause it turns over, it just won't start all the way. I think it may be the ignition, but the only thing that makes me think no is that the car ran for about 2 seconds before it shut off and won't start again.


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