Improved FD

whatever, *******....that kind of stuff is uncalled for

very few, essentially zero, of these cars have made it to 100,000 miles bone stock (aside from normal wear items)...my point stands...if you have a logical rebuttal, let's hear it

Improved FD

I'd like to hear of anyone that made it to 200,000 on the original engine

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

If you expect to live 100% maintenance free for 100k on a car, you're in the wrong car, wrong forum. Period.

For that matter, you might want to avoid nearly all performance cars. Very few meet that kind of criteria, and those that do cost much more or go slower.

The intelligent FD owner appreciates that although there are tradeoffs, and maintenance is the price you pay for a lighter, faster, cheaper car. The TCO is generally very good considering the performance you get.

Dave

karpo23

How about valvoline 20 w-60?

FLA94FD

Before my rebuild, because of coolant seal failure, I drove the car 20K miles just adding oil. There was no excessive wear on the internal parts of the engine at 88K. I was try to blow the motor before my extended warranty ran out.

While I wouldn't do that after the rebuild and I'm not suggesting that it's a good idea. Oil is not what kills these motors in most cases as stated by others. Coolant seals and detonation and/or bad tuning are the normal causes.

Just for the record the car has been run hard just about every day excluding the first 500 miles and 2000 after the last rebuild.

I doubt that you would even be able to notice a difference on a dyno between 500 mile oil and 1500.

If it makes you feel better by all means it can't hurt.

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

You should have unplugged the wastegate hose and just boost spiked the **** out of it. 87 Octane would have helped too.

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

15w-50, 20w-50, 20w-60 are all good summer weight oils. I would not run them anywhere below freezing. 20w-60 may be a little too heavy - I would probably restrict it to track use since it would not get warmed up doing daily driving.

Dave

Kaotic Dan

First, there have been a number of studies showing that excessive oil and filter changes increase the ammount of wear to the motor. if you need me to dig up those sources I will, just may take some time, try searching the web. One study found that cars with excessive oil consumption (on par with my FD anyway), just topping the oil off kept it fresh enough to last 10k miles+.

2nd, With all the blown motors I have seen and read about, I have yet to see one that was caused by oil related wear (unless the owner ran it without oil!). Fact is that the huge majority of REW motors will die due to coolant seals or apex seal failure long before the motor even shows any oil related wear. On a quality rebuild, both can be avoided by proper tuning and precautions.

3rd, these cars are high maintenence. Noone will argue that. But in comparison most dedicated track cars don't go a season or two before a tear down, and your expecting 100k+ of hard all weather street/ track driving out of one of the highest performing street car ever to come from Japan?? And a modified one nonetheless.

4th, people seem to forget these cars are approaching 15 years old. These cars are NOT brand new. Even if you found a low mileage one, its still over a decade old. Things will need to be replaced.

5th, I've had my FD for 4 years, most of them daily driven, and this vehicle has been the most reliable of the 7 cars i've owned in the last 10 years. If your popping motors left and right or having other non-wear related issues, it's most likely an issue with your setup or driving habits.

Oh, and the point. I change my oil every 3k or so. Royal Purple 5w-30 in winter and 10w-30 in the Summer.

JConn2299

You're not paying attention. There have been a couple of posts from such owners, and more who have gone considerably over 100k on the original engine.

JConn2299

Always with the namecalling. It betrays an intolerance and lack of confidence in your position.

JConn2299

ehos wrote on 4/10/06:

Sorry bro, but I'm already at 206,xxx Miles

Stock AST, stock downpipe (but it's been replaced a few times with a stock ones from Mazda).

No boost gauge, no water temp gauge, totally stock.


https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=man

EZFD

ok, just my $0,02, rotaries beat the crap out of oil, i switched from GTX 10w30 to Amsoil 20w50 synthetic, huge price increase but now i can go a whole 2000 miles between oil changes, with the GTX, it was shot before 1000 miles.

Improved FD

that is the only claim of 200,000+ miles I've ever seen on this forum, and consequently I don't believe it....he was not the original owner if you notice, so how could he know for certain?

I'll make you (another) bet, little jconn: your stock engine won't make it past 100,000....what is it now, about 40k?

Improved FD

did you have it tested? how do you know it was "shot"?

alexdimen

iTrader: (13)

there was just a thread where a bunch of people including myself posted their high mileage FD numbers. i acquired mine at 125k and am currently rebuilding it. the ONLY major things wrong with it were a chipped side seal and the turbo seals leaked slightly.

hey kaotic dan, why do frequent changes decrease engine life

to all who claim they can feel a different after 1000 miles: it was pointed out that diluted oil would have less resistance and the car would seem quicker, just chill out and enjoy your car! you're gonna burst a capillary over, at best, 5 thousand miles additional engine life.

JConn2299

You doubted there were any. Now confronted with the evidence you try to deny it. Just another sign of the "true believer."

You're way off the topic anyway and have strayed from the original point of this thread. Typical. When you're shown to be wrong you try to switch the basis of the argument. Ho-hum. Same tedious guy, just a different screen name. (Did you get banned yet again? I've lost track by this point. LOL!)

JConn2299

Oh, don't let Improved hear that. FD's are supposed to blow up by 60k miles. It's in scripture. And if you doubt it, he'll condemn you to rotary hell, you heathen high-mileager.

JConn2299

Another one?!!! You're already gonna owe me $10,000 when the AntiChrist doesn't show up by our agreed upon deadline and criteria. It's just a few years away now. I hope you're saving your pennies because I'm counting on you to be "faithful" to your word.

EZFD

i knew it was "shot" because when i would check it, it was like water and completely black.

Improved FD

LOL..."evidence"??

since when is random posts on an internet forum "evidence" of anything? please tell me you aren't this naive and stupid, as you falsely assert I am

and stop bringing my spiirtual beliefs into this, just to be a dick (as if you could be any more of one)

Improved FD

I know what your saying, but you should get a sample analyzed to eliminate speculation, it's pretty cheap http://www.oaitesting.com/prices.htm

btw, some interesting data here, the new Mobil 1 stacks up quite well!
http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests/g1971/index.aspx