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Old 02-17-08, 03:41 AM
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no aftermarket pillowball bushings?

ppl have always said there's no arftermarket pillowball bushings...


so i went ahead and ordered the 6 OEM ones..

then I stumbled upon these:




WTF?!

I think i just wasted my money
Old 02-17-08, 09:00 AM
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Those are not exactly the same thing. Also, if you translate the link, it appears you need to send in your arms to them. If you are making a pure track car, those would probably be nice. However, I wouldn't recommend something like that for a street car.

(bad) translated link:

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Rear lower arm partial core pyro

Conformity model: 	FD3S

Price: 	Each 1 10500 Yen (10000 Yen in substance price)

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Rear partial core bush! (Photograph left side)

Ultimate weapon of grip!

The camber which is not attached with this perfect!
As for circuit group laying down! As for 繧シ繝ュ繝ィ繝ウ group causing!
Both are OK! The adjustment range is about 0 - 6 degrees.
Adopting large-sized pyro, way also the pyro color sticks and is packed the design!
They are 21000 Yen (20000 Yen in substance price) with left and right.

Installation section (photograph center) of link
As for knuckle installation section (photograph right side)
They are 1 place 5250 Yen (5000 Yen in substance price).
Being normal, because it is pyro
If it is not damaged, don't you think? it is not necessary to change!
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No, I don't think you wasted your money. Stiffer isn't always better.....those look designed for a full blown race application. If you drive your car on the street, you made the right decision.
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The oem bushings are better than any of the aftermarket ones. They work better, stay cleaner, and last longer.
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First off, there are pillowballs and there are bushings. Separate things. (exception: the inner end of the toe link is a pillowball with a bushing surround).

The 6 pillowballs in the stock rear suspension are not bushings in any way. They have no give, and for all practical purposes they will perform as well as an aftermarket one. They will certainly last longer and be cheaper.

The bushing to the left of that arm is not one of these, it is a bushing. Obviously the aftermarket part you show is offset for more camber adjustment - although with the negative camber gain of the FD suspension, I'm not even sure of what extreme car setup requires more camber than the stock can provide. For stiffness, replacing this bushing with a stiffer version makes sense for some folks.

I don't think you made a mistake at all. If anything spending lots of money for those aftermarket replacements may have been the mistake.

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Also, the price of the aftermarket ones listed there are ~$100 each - so $600 for the bushings? Plus trying to get them from Japan, shipping, etc.

It would be nice if there was a source for copies of the OEM parts that were cheaper but of the same quality. But, there's none to my knowledge.

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Old 02-18-08, 02:14 AM
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I see..

so i would basically rattle my fillings loose with this kinda setup?

OEM it is then


do the "big" pillowballs generally fail as well? or are they most likely Ok?

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