New Reman - Trouble starting - need help form the vets
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New Reman - Trouble starting - need help form the vets
Well, I've been tryin for 5 days and need input from the forum vets:
Reman Engine
Map Sensor IS hooked up
Plenty of front and rear spark
40-44psi of fuel pressure at start up
No "check engine" codes
The engine starts iin "safe/limp mode"
I can only start the damn car by doing the flooded-engine recovery procedure - and when it does start, only the front rotor chamber is firing. Classic safe/limp home mode situation.
I've tried resetting the ECU and there are NO error codes showing up on the dash. But the 4w ABS light is on - however the brake fluid reservoir is at max level.
Thanks
Reman Engine
Map Sensor IS hooked up
Plenty of front and rear spark
40-44psi of fuel pressure at start up
No "check engine" codes
The engine starts iin "safe/limp mode"
I can only start the damn car by doing the flooded-engine recovery procedure - and when it does start, only the front rotor chamber is firing. Classic safe/limp home mode situation.
I've tried resetting the ECU and there are NO error codes showing up on the dash. But the 4w ABS light is on - however the brake fluid reservoir is at max level.
Thanks
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compression check? the used rotor housing mazda remans have a hard time starting hot, during break in.
#5
Originally Posted by dubulup
there isn't anything classic about...running on one rotor; that is not limp mode.
some codes don't illuminate the CEL, pull the codes and check back with us.
some codes don't illuminate the CEL, pull the codes and check back with us.
Well, absolutely NO codes. I grounded the "ten" in the diagnostics terminal and no codes were flashing. I even went so far as to disconnect the piggyback HKS FCON. I've reset the ECU several times but still having issues.
I always thought that the car running as if the MAP sensor was disconnected was "safe mode," which is the symptoms the car is exhibiting. The car is only running with the front chamber firing. I looked at the plugs (brand new) and it's obvious the front chambers are undergoing combustion but the rear leading plugs are still shiny and dry. I confirmed that the plugs and wires are fine.
So - no codes, no fuel in the rear chamber (injectors were cleaned a couple months ago), electrical connections are good as far as I can tell.
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a heavy misfire, front plugs seem ok not fuel soaked or anything? with clean dry plugs in the rear rotor huh? sounds like the rear injector may not be opening, has been know to happen to "serviced" injectors
the abs light has nothing to do with the fluid level, that is the red brake light
the abs light has nothing to do with the fluid level, that is the red brake light
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Have you checked for spark? I know you said you visually inspected the plugs and the wires but did you check for actual spark. Have you done anything to the fuel delivery system when you removed and replaced the engine?
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Originally Posted by mad_7tist
a heavy misfire, front plugs seem ok not fuel soaked or anything? with clean dry plugs in the rear rotor huh? sounds like the rear injector may not be opening, has been know to happen to "serviced" injectors
the abs light has nothing to do with the fluid level, that is the red brake light
the abs light has nothing to do with the fluid level, that is the red brake light
I reconfirmed - the front plugs are dry and show evidence of combustion (showing some discoloration) but the rear plugs are dry and still shiny.
The serviced injectors worked fine after I reinstalled them. I can't help to think that the 4W ABS light has something to do with this...
Last edited by Svelte_7; 11-05-06 at 11:30 PM.
#10
Originally Posted by Trexthe3rd
Have you checked for spark? I know you said you visually inspected the plugs and the wires but did you check for actual spark. Have you done anything to the fuel delivery system when you removed and replaced the engine?
As for the fuel delivery, I put a new fuel pressure gauge on it. I'm confident I didn't interchange the supply and return lines.
#12
Couple of things...
Make sure that you have the cranks sensors plugged in correctly.
Also make sure you haven't swapped the plug wires on the center coil.
That will give you fire, but it won't be correct.
I wouldn't expect any trouble at all starting if the hook up is correct....
Make sure that you have the cranks sensors plugged in correctly.
Also make sure you haven't swapped the plug wires on the center coil.
That will give you fire, but it won't be correct.
I wouldn't expect any trouble at all starting if the hook up is correct....
#13
Originally Posted by tsmysak1
Couple of things...
Make sure that you have the cranks sensors plugged in correctly.
Also make sure you haven't swapped the plug wires on the center coil.
That will give you fire, but it won't be correct.
I wouldn't expect any trouble at all starting if the hook up is correct....
Make sure that you have the cranks sensors plugged in correctly.
Also make sure you haven't swapped the plug wires on the center coil.
That will give you fire, but it won't be correct.
I wouldn't expect any trouble at all starting if the hook up is correct....
If that's all set, I guess I'm going to have to rip off the UIM and start the nasty troubleshooting. Since I'm not getting any codes, I'm assuming all my connections are made but may have a swapped connector somewhere. Second possibility is that my rear primary injector isn't working either. I'm going to do the 9v test and put the rear primary into the front primary location.
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Originally Posted by Svelte_7
(injectors were cleaned a couple months ago)
RC fails to tell you if you don't fire the injectors within ~2 weeks...the solution they use to clean/calibrate/flow test can cause sticking.
they will fix it for free, but now you have to pull the UIM off and get the injector out.
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my money is also on the rear primary injector, either the injector itself is sticking or the wiring has cracked or the pin pushed back in the connector not giving a signal to the injector to fire.
i have seen it numerous times when only one rotor is firing, sometimes it isn't so obvious when looking for problems.
i have seen it numerous times when only one rotor is firing, sometimes it isn't so obvious when looking for problems.
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Well, ripped the UIM off tonight and scrounged up a 9v battery and some leads - yep, it's the rear primary injector. The front primary clicks quite nicely, as do the secondaries, but the *&#($&@#!_ rear primary is silent. I'm hoping it just a quick shot with IPA and it's good as new.
Getting that damn injector out is NOT going to be fun
Getting that damn injector out is NOT going to be fun
#19
Originally Posted by lopedl
It could still be your wiring perhaps bad connection to the injector itself.
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