NEW FUEL system for the FD3S **CJ motorsports**
12-12-06, 10:26 AM
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Thanks man. Hopefully this helps other people as well.
I noticed that the kits being made are for big horsepower applications, will there be kits for those of us looking to upgraded our fuel system still using the stock twins?
Like myself, going for all the bolt-ons, stock twins. Eventually I'll go single or upgraded twins, but I need to upgrade my fuel system for my current setup since I'll be driving on this setup for awhile.
If there is going to be a kit for "us", will we be able to "upgrade" our kits once we go single?
I noticed that the kits being made are for big horsepower applications, will there be kits for those of us looking to upgraded our fuel system still using the stock twins?
Like myself, going for all the bolt-ons, stock twins. Eventually I'll go single or upgraded twins, but I need to upgrade my fuel system for my current setup since I'll be driving on this setup for awhile.
If there is going to be a kit for "us", will we be able to "upgrade" our kits once we go single?
12-12-06, 10:36 AM
#27
The injector size is the only limiting factor, so yes they will work with the stock twins. You will need to block of the ACV to run either system. So emissions might be a problem, if you have to pass 
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The only thing you will need to upgrade is the injector size. All components should be able to handle in excess of 600 HP.
I am thinking of a couple different set up's.
550cc/ 1200cc, should be good around 350 whp.
750cc/ 1200cc, should be good around 400 whp.
750cc/1600cc, should be good around 500 whp
1000cc/1600cc, should be good around 600 whp
.The only thing you will need to upgrade is the injector size. All components should be able to handle in excess of 600 HP.
I am thinking of a couple different set up's.
550cc/ 1200cc, should be good around 350 whp.
750cc/ 1200cc, should be good around 400 whp.
750cc/1600cc, should be good around 500 whp
1000cc/1600cc, should be good around 600 whp
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12-12-06, 10:50 AM
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Sorry to keep comin at ya with questions but..
Why such a different injector setup then whats common around here? Usually its just secondaries @ 1300 or 1600.
How streetable will your setup be? I've heard things about the common upgrade.
Why such a different injector setup then whats common around here? Usually its just secondaries @ 1300 or 1600.
How streetable will your setup be? I've heard things about the common upgrade.
12-12-06, 10:56 AM
#29
I had Steve Kan tune my car. I was running at the time, 750cc and 1200cc injectors. I had no drivability issues at all. I dynoed at 360WHP at 12 psi on a GT4082. My duty cycle was around 80%. This was also on a mustang type dyno I believe, So this figure should be a little higher on a Dynojet. Also I believe Steve to be a very conservative tuner. I also had a walboro fuel pump, and pressure was rock solid all the way to red line.
12-12-06, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by oorx7
Tell you what, JJ. If you pruchase it while you still have your twins, I will port your waste gate for free. As long as you bring me your twins.
12-12-06, 11:31 AM
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^Lol..yea I know its BADDDDD. Now thats its cold I can hold 14+ psi @ WOT. It doesnt drop to 12 anymore..just holds @ 14. Im afraid to go WOT and hold it for obvious reasons..Im actually trying to drive my parents cars as much as possible.
And Brandon, you gotta deal. Just gotta give me sum time. Im paying off a PFC, might be gettin this Apexi GT Spec exhaust (couldn't pass up tha deal) this weekend, and a Greddy TT this weekend.
And Brandon, you gotta deal. Just gotta give me sum time. Im paying off a PFC, might be gettin this Apexi GT Spec exhaust (couldn't pass up tha deal) this weekend, and a Greddy TT this weekend.
12-12-06, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by oorx7
I also don't know if he supplies a bracket to mount the pressure regulator to. I do and it will be anodized like the rails, rail spacers, and injector spacers.
Originally Posted by oorx7
I am sure his system does not come with enough fittings to run in a parallel configuration. Mine can only be run in this way.
Originally Posted by oorx7
I also don't know if he supplies the injector spacers, I know his are not made like mine. I have an O-ring seal around the outside of mine. This makes for a good seal with out using any kind of RTV or Larger fuel hose like some people use.
Originally Posted by oorx7
Our fuel rails are made from billet Aluminum, not extruded fuel rail stock. This doesn't necessarily make them better. It does take a lot more work to manufacture them. I am also not restricted to the dimensions of the fuel rail extrusion the KG parts are. Thus I can mount them differently and a little more solidly to the engine.
Excuse me if I am not thinking clearly here…. But what weight are these rails holding that they would require a more solid mount? I can't think of this ever being the case in any fuel rail by any company, not just mazda.
Originally Posted by oorx7
I also provide Nylon filament braided hose, which is lighter than stainless, and no were near as abrasive. In other words it wont wear away, what it is resting against.
Originally Posted by oorx7
Also all our hardware will be stainless steel, not sure if KG is this way or not.
I must say that the temp sensor is a nice offering. If someone wanted it, it is available with the KG rails as well. Not standard because there is really no need for it.
12-12-06, 12:21 PM
#37
I am glad you came on to this thread to clear things up about the differences. I am not here to call out any problems with you kit, in fact I don't think there are any.
I simply had to upgrade mine. I am not the type to buy some one else's stuff, if I can make it. Like my turbo kit, V-mount, and fuel system. Since I have a company that sells fuel systems for the 350z, it only made sense to use the development that went into designing mine and offer it to the public. I hope that you don't mind a little competition.
It seems as I was wrong about some of your things that are provided in your kit, I was just going by what I could find in your website and the group buy you are running. If you look back to the first couple of pages of that thread, I was stating that I was going to be coming out with this system in the future.
Just to add, I supply a braket that the aeromotive bracket attaches to.
I didn't realize you included a Y in your set up.
I tried to improve on a design that has been out for a long time. i could sell them to you if you want. I might make them out of plastic/rubber. I work full time as a Injection plastics mold maker.
Actually I wasn't knocking the fuel extrusion one bit. It is a extremely economical way of doing it. You just need to attach a bracket to make it work on a 13Brew, or any motor for that matter.
No, I have them Gun drilled. It can drill straight for up to 4 feet from one side. (A connection from mold making for drilling cooling lines in molds.)
Your right they don't hold up any real weight at all. I just like a solid feel with my installed components.
Thanks, and you are correct the only ECU to my knowledge that utilizes it is the Power FC, Which a lot of people use. But not nessecarilly know how to tune with it also.
I simply had to upgrade mine. I am not the type to buy some one else's stuff, if I can make it. Like my turbo kit, V-mount, and fuel system. Since I have a company that sells fuel systems for the 350z, it only made sense to use the development that went into designing mine and offer it to the public. I hope that you don't mind a little competition.
It seems as I was wrong about some of your things that are provided in your kit, I was just going by what I could find in your website and the group buy you are running. If you look back to the first couple of pages of that thread, I was stating that I was going to be coming out with this system in the future.
Originally Posted by rxrotary2_7
Bracket is given for no cost to those who are using the front of the extension manifold to mount their regulator. Anodizing looks nice but is not necessary. Anodizing is also available with the KGParts rails.
Originally Posted by rxrotary2_7
You sure about that? Full systems come standard in a parallel configuration already assembled. Series is also available.
Originally Posted by rxrotary2_7
Injector spacers are included for both primary and secondary. Although there are hundreds of people running the spacers as they are, there is a flaw to the design. Maybe I will just make them as you described as well.
Originally Posted by rxrotary2_7
I have it extruded from 6061-T6 aircraft grade aluminum. I have the cert here I can give you the mix if needed . Not sure where you are going with this one...
Originally Posted by rxrotary2_7
Are you drilling from both ends?
Originally Posted by rxrotary2_7
Excuse me if I am not thinking clearly here…. But what weight are these rails holding that they would require a more solid mount?
Originally Posted by rxrotary2_7
I must say that the temp sensor is a nice offering. If someone wanted it, it is available with the KG rails as well. Not standard because there is really no need for it.
Last edited by oorx7; 12-12-06 at 12:45 PM.
12-19-06, 08:59 PM
#39
Thanks for the bump!
We can build the system how ever you want.
We have updated our website. Still not completely finished, but pretty close.
www.cj-motorsports.com
We can build the system how ever you want.
We have updated our website. Still not completely finished, but pretty close.
www.cj-motorsports.com
09-30-07, 07:58 PM
#44
Thanks for the complements. I have been researching some new projects and haven't checked this section as often as I should.
We are currently sold out of our stock. We how ever have everything on order and should be able to fill orders by early next week.
BTW this is what the system look likes now.
Here is a teaser pic of our twin pump assembly.
We are currently sold out of our stock. We how ever have everything on order and should be able to fill orders by early next week.
BTW this is what the system look likes now.
Here is a teaser pic of our twin pump assembly.
10-06-07, 10:53 AM
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Hey Brandon i have not had a chance to install my setup yet ( I will arive home in Nov.) When i do i will be sure to post pics of start to finish. By the way guys even though I have not had a chance to see everything i had my friend open the box and check everything out and he was amazed on how clean everything was! def a great kit to get 
P.S: are charlies7 and myself the only ones on the forum running these kits?!?!?!
P.S: are charlies7 and myself the only ones on the forum running these kits?!?!?!
