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Old 11-13-06, 12:48 PM
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Ignore the last post, I am going out to check them in just a moment. I also should note that while the rotors smelled of gas (which should be expected since it was getting fuel and no spark) the both of the front rotor's plugs were covered in oil. The rear plugs looked perfectly normal.
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Originally Posted by Davin
anytime there is metal meeting metal in a car, there is always a gasket because you will never get a good seal.
Just FYI.... quite a few diesel engines DO NOT use a gasket of any kind between the cylinder head and exhaust manifold!
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Old 11-13-06, 01:25 PM
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My friend, I wonder if you might have an oil seal problem? Compression test the engine. Immediatly.
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sounds like too much fuel
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I agree with howard (which is a very knowledgable rotary dude fyi), it sounds like ur gettin 2 much fuel.
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Originally Posted by FD'up
also because coils can just GO bad without warning.
Well, yes, that COULD happen, but this isn't a VW. It's more likely that you are getting way too much fuel. Perhaps a really leaky injector?
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To check the coils and the system at the same time, pull the plugs and reconnect the plug wires to the plugs .Wire the threaded shells together with bare wire or safty wire .Then ground the wire and or shells .Turn out the lights and have someone turn the key to the start position while you watch the spark plugs to see if they are firing . also you might pull the fuel pump relay . I have never seen three coils go bad all at the same time .
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check the line to the mapsensor. I accidently poped mine off one time when I changed the oil and plugs.car did same thing. good luck
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#8 highly probable

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And if you do need a new coil, the stockers are fine.
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thanks for all your help. me and my friend checked the spark and boy its fun sending some voltage through your body when you are accidently touching the plug.lol. but we checked it and all you guys were right, the coils are fine. What we did though was push out all the crap in the housings by removing the fuel relay and turning the car with the plugs removed.(hopefully it didnt harm it) but it kicked out a ton of crap. I put the plugs back in and it started right up. It was kickin out some thick white smoke out the exhaust but I am postive it was all the crap in the housings. (it was also some of the sea foam we put in it last week) The car ran extremely smoothly.

What I am trying to get at, is that we removed stuff and put it back in and it started right up. It might have been completely flooded, but what I dont understand is how it flooded in the first place. I have been reading about this problem with other members and it seemed that it is all pointing to the battery. I have a size 35 (not sure on the CCA). I was wondering what you guys have and what battery I should get if I have the wrong one? I am about to go start it up to make sure it hasnt crapped out again, but let me know what you guys think.
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Now whats wrong?

I recently wrote a thread talking about my FD turning the rotors but not firing. If you have read my post, you know what I am talking about, if not, here is the run down. When I try to turn the car on, it would make a strange sound while turning the rotors but would never fire. So we checked to see if there was a spark, which there was. I put them back in right after we turn the rotors with no fuel and no plugs in the housings. It pushed out a ton of crap. I put the plugs back in and it started up and also put out a lot of white smoke. This was yesterday.

Today, I went to fill up some coolant that is leaking from somewhere and fixed a possible hose. I then started with hesitation at not knowing what it was going to do and it started up again. I then drove it around for 15 min just to get from crap out because it spat out more white smoke. Then I turned her off and then came back an hour later to leave. I turned the ignition, it barely turned on then shut right off. I then tried it again and it slowly turned on with more white smoke. Then later tonight, when I turned it on, the car seemed to take awhile to start firing.

Phew....now...I have been searching and reading a ton of possible problems. Here are some of the solutions
-bad grounding
-battery does not have enough voltage (it read 12.1 by the way)
-bad starter
-bad clutch switch(i think that was one not sure)

What I think happened was that the engine flooded and that is what all the white smoke is from, but did it start happening, I dont know.

I really need your guys input because I am down at shcool with no other means of transportation. Thanks to all that help.
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If you get a big plume of white smoke when you start the car then it sounds like you could have a coolant seal problem dude.

you say the cars losing coolant - how many miles on the motor? if its got more than 60k its seeming likely you can say goodbye to your first motor. If your losing coolant, getting white smoke and hard starting there arent THAT many other things it can be unfortunately.
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STOP CREATING NEW THREADS EVERY DAY ON THE SAME TOPIC. Thank you. I merged all three of your threads.
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dude, your car is fried just like mine. your coolant seal(s) are bad and you need a rebuild. the more you try and fix it, the more harm you may quite possibly be doing. take it to a reputable rotary specialist and go from there. it is nothing that you can fix on your own unless you have a cherry picker and $$$ worth of tools and time. just get it done right and take it to a shop
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I think your right. Man I didnt think of that before. My car has 78K miles on the original motor. Do those things happen all of a sudden. Now I am not sure if its that but I had a loose hose that was leaking coolant. Is there any way I could checkif there is a blown seal?




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