Beat me to it. :)

You shouldn't be one to speak either.

im 18 and my first car was an n/a fc that i got when i was 15. ive been around rotaries for quite some time now. my dad and uncles used to race rx2's and shit back when i was like 3 for like 4 years or so. after the fc i got a 325i and after about a year driving that i finally got the fd. K THX

Exactly. This is why the RX-7 is "cheap". The RX-7 has very high insurance and upkeep costs. Supra has more managible insurance and very low up keep cost. The savings are simply transfered to the price of the vehicle.

so...what car should i get? VR4 or n/a supra (TT's are going for 30k-50k for a good one)

EDIT: i'll have 15K AT MOST

I dunno, perhaps a "normal" car?? Sure, everyone wants to be cool with their first new car but lets face it, you are going to do stupid stuff and make mistakes (even just general mistakes from being a new driver). Don't destroy a Supra/RX7/VR4 just because you must have a certain car. In addition, $15k at most and you were initially talkign about a decent FD and having a SPARE ENGINE on the side. :rolleyes: Come on bud, now you know why us older folks get tired of the "kids" on here.

Go buy a nice used Civic that is a couple years old, or maybe an FC, or hell, I had 2 Grand Am GT's..they are a nice car for a young kid and you can find 01-03's for cheap now (and they can be a helluva lot faster than a standard upgraded Civic for the same modification cost...$12k would get you a low 14 sec car).

I had a vauxhall nova for a first car, that developed to a 300bhp 700kg daily driver (Damn fast, but a little tin can and FWD so not great handling)

next was an Audi A3 quattro i had for about 3 months, 4wd, 200bhp and about 1400kgs i think. This was too boring and uninspiring to drive, so i got rid of it for the FD.

I know FDs dont make good DD's, and mine is about to go i think, but i have other cars available should the owrst happen.

what about a 2000+ Trans Am?

or how about a miata? good gas mileage, light, nimble, rwd, 5 speed. sure, it's a "chick" car, but you can get a perfect 1g miata for like 3k.

they have a REALLY small interior...and i need room

How about you're missing the point.... You don't NEED that much car!! Not to mention the insurance would kill you anyway, and it would be hard to find a 2000+ T/A in your price range too.

There is nothing wrong with having a normal car as your first ride....it's called REALITY and COMMON SENSE.

normal cars suck :(

your being a typical teenage kid. Impatient, selfish, needs to be spoiled.

OK, Bob has tried to relay his piece of life advise. It's up to others from here on out....

If you looking for a fast car to tinker with, get a 1st gen dsm.

ok...whatever, typical teenager...but bob was basicly saying it was ok to get an FD...i mean a 300hp in a bad handling car? not only is an FD a GREAT handling car (or so i've heard...haven't driven one) but it has slightly less HP (i have no idea how much 700 kg is...maybe that's also a factor) so to me, he's saying "yeah, why not, my first car was a vauxhall nova" or at least that's how i took it

Even more so if you like rust and a shitty design. I own a 2nd Gen GTS. The theory is great, the design is crap, the exictution was crap the result is crap. They rust fast, are poorly designed, and are made of very very shotty materals and labor.

UHm...my name is Bob.


Corbic...tell us how you really feel about DSM.

Stop being an idiot like seriouly if he wants an FD and hes got the cash for it let him get one. If he crashes and kills himself, well w/e his loss. lol. No need to get pissed off at somebody jsut because they got the cash to get a fast car :p I'm 17 and I'm still driving my moms Acura 1.6EL. 110 HP of pure slow shit. Total complete POS... hopesully after uni I'll be able to afford something nicer like an FD or whatever. Monkey if you can afford the FD and you realize that this car requires shitloads of work (and shitloads of cash) to keep it running then by all means get one.

ROFL....i thought you were talking about bobfish

Hey, it means one less FD :(. They're becoming more and more rare.

Anyways, if this is going to be your first car I would also advise against such a fast car. When you're starting out you are GOING to make mistakes, and with a rwd car, especially a powerful one like the FD or supra, it's very easy to lose control. A new driver will overcorrect when they are nervous in a "situation". Overcorrection in a normal car like a civic or a integra will cause understeer (the car will go in a straight line.) Overcorrection in a rwd car will cause you to fishtail, or spin out. Far more dangerous.

Besides, once you get a handle on the car, there are mods for these "normal" cars as well. You can slowly build up your understanding of cars and then you'll be ready for the FD.

I know you arent going to listen to me, I wouldnt if I were in your situation, which I was. My parents bought me an s40 (volvo), when I initially wanted a integra type r (back before I knew the handling differences between fwd and rwd). Anyways. I gather from what you were saying about you having "15k at most" makes me think that 15k is the budget your parents MIGHT give you? Is this incorrect? Anyways, be careful. If you're buying it on your own, or your parents are buying it for you and they dont care what you get, and you are set on the FD, make sure to read up on the reliability of these things.

The car is a dream, as I said in a previous post. Also, if you can afford to keep a spare engine, and have the know how, its prolly a good idea. Just dont blow two engines :bigthumb:

i'm hoping to have 5 or 6k saved up, and get the rest form my parents...but my dad just gave me a better idea (better for me that is) instead of buying me my first car (i'd get it myself) he would buy me my second, which could be any car of my choice...basicly a 1997 Toyota Supra TT 6-Speed (I.E. my absolute dream car and year) and free insurance...everything, all i would need to pay is gas and maintenance (and mods) provided i get good grades, participate in activities, and get into a good college...i'll get the car that summer or maybe earlier if i play my cards right...i want to be seen in it at least once since i may never see some people again, lol...so yeah, i'm going that route...guess it's a smarter way to go anyway :D

Wow.

Not be a hater or anything, but I have a similiar finacially capible family, with a twist. My father is dead set against helping me in anything. Senior year I got $1,000 for my first car, sweat 16, got a job... so forth. Long story short I'm 21 now, working 30 hours a week paying for college, car, apartment, and I wouldnt have it any other way.

If my father was to turn around and offer me an Evo, I would turn him down. Because excepting hand outs simply turn my stomach. I would take that money of yours and either buy the FD with a loan, (owing money teaches disapline) or get a roacking GS-R, FC, S13 ect. Plenty of great cars. Then you take that money your parents would have wasted on you and use it for school, appartment, future problems.. so forth.

it's not a hand-out...it's incentive

You need "incentive" to do good in school? Right there it the problem. Here I am busting my ass to pay for school, cause I WANT TO BE IN SCHOOL. A little ironic no? I work to go to school, you have to be brided to go to shcool.

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yup